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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Surely the best outcome now from a business perspective would be the UK unilaterally revoking A50 and cancelling Brexit this week. No more uncertainty and none of the chaos of a no deal crash out?
That's arguable I guess. But as of now, we are not really prepared for it, which is why no deal looks like worst case scenario. I mean, for example, the threat of supply chains grinding to a halt in the next few weeks is bad for Business; but it is surely not as bad as the actuality of it, is it?
Yes. But that's not happening. I am sorry, people expecting a second referendum or another GE to make this better are living in fantasy land.
I think that's the first time I've said that but if you want to close the thread then ask the mods. What's the point. Jesus.
Every scenario except no brexit is worst case scenario. To me, No deal is the better than another round of negotiations, and we end up with the same position every three months.
So it's not really that you think crashing out with no deal is the "best case scenario", as you originally said. It's just that you think it is inevitable.
Good post. Staggeringly poor leadership.
I mean as far as she's concerned he has completed her task in getting the WA with her red lines. What happens next is incidental. Not saying she's right.
I’ll be honest, I’m completely biased here but only one of these parties is an anti-gay, racist and xenophobic bunch of lunatics who amongst other scandals cost the public purse hundreds of millions in a fecking scheme for protestant farmers to heat empty chicken houses.
Sinn Fein are far from perfect, but I can only speak from experience, any of the local elected officals were I am are absolute gentlemen who couldn’t do enough for constituents in my experience.
In short, there’s no comparison between the two.
That's obvious. Sinn Fein are scum.
God help us if that’s the bar we’re setting for worthwhile posting on redcafe. You’d have to delete most of the threads in the football forum. You should start with the Messi vs Ronaldo one.
But apparently MP’s can tell him to pipe down if a majority are going to back the deal.
Surely there will be if it comes down to that or no deal. Surely....
A part of me hopes we just leave on the 29th March and be done with it, even if it is no deal. Deal with the fallout however bad it may be and then focus on the campaign to rejoin the EU at whatever point in the future
If folks don't want to Brexit then why not stage some mass protests or something...do the majority truly want to Brexit?
I think when it comes down to it, a lot of people aren’t that bothered either way, especially remainers.
Very few things about Northern Ireland Politics make sense.
Sigh...
I've seen a few people say this but the reality is that things won't come to any sort of conclusion with a no deal exit, as if that settles things. It would keep rumbling on and on, just from a more bitter and divided position with the UK suffering much worse.
Even after a no deal exit, the UK will still ultimately need to establish some sort of relationship with the EU and do something about the border in NI. Both of which will require yet more negotiations with the EU. A no deal exit won't bring relief from that shitshow.
It stands for Extremely Rich Geezers.
You offering to pay my mortgage when Automotive manufacturing dies on it's arse?
Story of her career. She’s proven herself utterly incapable of working with, compromising with, or even empathising with other political players and alternative opinions.
Kent pupils could be left stranded by no-deal Brexit gridlock, warns council
Teachers told they may have to ‘adopt carer role’ if traffic stops parents picking children up
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ils-parents-traffic-disruption-no-deal-brexit
Apologies if this has been posted but even if only a fraction of this is true then it's incredible. This is Kent Council, their main interest is in keeping essential services running.
I blame May for this national crisis. She's had 2 years to find a cross party consensus, not just one that appeases the ERG and stops the Tory Party from imploding. Her stubbornness in clinging to her deal as the only possible middle ground between Remain and Brexit is ludicrous and beyond hubris.
To some extent I also blame Brexiters as they can't agree on what kind of Brexit they want, hard or soft.
What also hacks me off is the safety precautions MPs are having to take to avoid alterations from disaffected Leave voters. If the positions were reversed, I bet MPs wouldn't have to avoid assault from disaffected Remain voters.
I don't give a shit about the Blitz spirit, Brexit is just fecking madness.
Teachers told they may have to ‘adopt carer role’ if traffic stops parents picking children up
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ils-parents-traffic-disruption-no-deal-brexit
Apologies if this has been posted but even if only a fraction of this is true then it's incredible. This is Kent Council, their main interest is in keeping essential services running.
I blame May for this national crisis. She's had 2 years to find a cross party consensus, not just one that appeases the ERG and stops the Tory Party from imploding. Her stubbornness in clinging to her deal as the only possible middle ground between Remain and Brexit is ludicrous and beyond hubris.
To some extent I also blame Brexiters as they can't agree on what kind of Brexit they want, hard or soft.
What also hacks me off is the safety precautions MPs are having to take to avoid alterations from disaffected Leave voters. If the positions were reversed, I bet MPs wouldn't have to avoid assault from disaffected Remain voters.
I don't give a shit about the Blitz spirit, Brexit is just fecking madness.
A big part of me wishes the EU were the adults in this relationship and they had a contingency plan where they let us go to shit for the next 6 months, let there be a real, tangible feeling of regret, remorse and realisation and then open the door to let us back in on the basis we tell the ERG to feck off out of politics.
Happy to give up sterling and our privileged position within the EU for that scenario to play out.
You should keep pushing tbh. Write to you local MP's and just tell them that revoking A50 is preferable to no deal. Or that staying in the EU and forgetting the whole sorry mess is preferable, or not. Just exercise any and every bit of control you have to get the outcome you actually want and be specific. It was a tiny majority 2 years ago based on a spectacularly dishonest campaign. Do what you can to make it clear that there's as many unwilling participants as possible. Go through the motions and do your part, it'll encourage MP's to do their part and vote for the best outcome for their citizens.
Cmon man you know they arent going to do that. It would devalue them as a political entity instantly. They were voted for as an abstention party. Besides the UK is doing a good enough job wrecking itself.
No, no it won’t
Just read the average Flemish person would lose 149€ per year in case of a No deal brexit.
Give me my money back!
Give me my money back!
Stubborn as a mule
Best one yet
If this is real, I think either;
a) May scares enough MPs into voting for her deal.
b) It fails, May is forced out of No. 10. And then...? The stat posted today that 70ish% of Tories now prefer a no deal outcome terrifies in all honesty. Could be dreadful at this point.
It's upto 1.8m now.
Holding my bae Nicola extra close these days.
She’s hilarious, in a terrifying, terrifying way.
Me too mate! The whole thing is a shower of shite.