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Can the uk rejoin the eu after exiting in some distant future?
Why even bother talking with brexiteers about the Irish border? It's utterly pointless. They are ruining their country "to take back control of our borders" and the very first thing they propose on doing is to abandon all control of the sole notable land border their country posses. The lunacy. I bet they will be very fast to ask for a border once Ryan air offers flights from Calais to Dublin 
I mean, how is anyone supposed to take these people serious? Go to your MP's office, demand an end to this farce!
I mean, how is anyone supposed to take these people serious? Go to your MP's office, demand an end to this farce!
Probably would need to be in about 20 years when everyone has calmed down and things have either worked or not, and if the EU still exists
They could but in theory it's an normal application to the council which means that the standard position is without all the "community acquis". That can be negotiated in an agreement though.
Sure potentially, but would they really rush to let us back in?
I think in theory they could apply on March 30 this year but the process would take a long time, would need to be approved by member states and we would have to join the Schengen Area and the Euro.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not an expert.
And if the UK still exists.
If fantasy technological solutions don't work they can always try Corbyn's unicorns
Its a sign of Tusk's personal panicking, he can see his own career legacy in tatters as he goes down in history as one of the EU leaders who let the UK escape... a lot in common with David Cameron perhaps?
Yep, prob just England + Wales at that point
It's simple frustration due to the fact that after almost two years, UK leaders aren't close to have an idea about what brexit means to them. And the UK leaving has nothing to do with EU leaders, that's a UK decision based on UK internal politics considerations.
He’s basically saying that he wants all the benefits of being in, without being in. ConfusingIf fantasy technological solutions don't work they can always try Corbyn's unicorns
Its evident that the EU's usual sober tone hasn't really worked out with an audience who would rather listen to the likes of Farage, Davis and Boris then experts. Maybe that's the reason for a change of tone?
Let me de-confuse you. He is a moron.
Yes he wants all the benefits and no obligations, even worse than May's cake and eat it strategy at the beginning of the negotiations.
The UK couldn't have chosen a worst time to have the two most incompetent leaders of the major political parties.
it's like living with someone for years, paying rent, and bills, and contributing to cleaning and maintenance, and then telling them you no longer want to pay or contribute but still want to live there with all benefits, and then when they say no, throwing a strop and tell them they're being incredibly unreasonable.
Corbyn's a fecking moron.
Corbyn's a fecking moron.
I am not a commiesta far from it but I think that Jeremy's deal is far more realistic then anything being thrown by the Tory party. If he adds freedom of movement, substantial fees to access the single market and respect to the ECJ rules then he might have a winner there.
Yes. Tend to agree with you.
I have watched Tusk ever since we voted to leave and it was very clear from the beginning that he was not only very disappointed for the sake of the EU but I felt that he was also disappointed for the British people.
He has behaved with great dignity thus far but at some stage he had to make his frustrations evident.
Like all of us, he is a human being and humans have emotions.
His comment was not an off the cuff outburst but designed to let everyone know exactly how he feels.
Unfortunately there will be no winners in this process but ultimately both sides will have to move on and deal with the outcome as best as is possible.
He is just venting, there is no particular reasons or point. While we all understand why he would be frustrated, it's still stupid to do it on twitter.
Tusk was right I guess...Anyone who wants to have a good laugh, the below FT article is a must. Faroe Islands 
Global Britain, aye.
https://www.ft.com/content/7beae1d2-2a39-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7
Global Britain, aye. https://www.ft.com/content/7beae1d2-2a39-11e9-a5ab-ff8ef2b976c7
I think he probably has realised that what Brexit means, is the UK leaving the EU, with or without a deal, that's why he's panicking now. Tusk has believed in Tony Blair and had hoped that Remain would gain the upper hand and negotiate a soft Brexit or Brino, or even a second referendum that would overturn the first one, but now he can see that hope fading rapidly.
Like his other colleagues leading the EU, Tusk is now between a rock and hard place, the Irish want their back stop and the British don't, if anyone's staring hell in the face its Donald Tusk, bridging the gap between Ireland and Britain has been attempted for the last 300 years without success, somebody should have told him!
I still think May will concede and call off Brexit altogether, then walk off into the sunset like Cameron and the world will return to normal, but with British politics changed forever.
I assume you're being sarcastic - remain in the EU.
maybe you're right. There again as said, the EU usual sober tone is constantly being drowned by moronic comments from Davis, Boris and Warleggan. Maybe a change in tone might reach a sector of the audience that hasn't yet been reached till this time of date. Also it might be that the EU is using reverse psychology. I mean when the EU tried to court the UK it was interpreted as the EU needing the UK more then the UK needs the EU. Who knows maybe by sending them to hell as good old De Gaulle did, then they might have a change of mind.
Don't panic Mr Mainwaring the UK are leaving the EU.
The problem is that although the EU accepted that the UK are leaving back in 2016, the UK still haven't accepted that the UK are leaving the EU in 2019.
Feel free to tell me if this is wrong info...
A customs union with the EU is achievable especially if it commits itself to a close alignment with the single market which will force the UK to follow ECJ rules. The UK can also subscribe to EU projects as long as it handsomely pays for them as well.
You are obviously not resident in the UK! Not only is it accepted, the cries to get on with it grow louder every day!
So you think that the Irish want the backstop to protect the Good Friday Agreement but the British don't?
Why do you think that is?
Tusk has nothing to do with any of these things, your attempt at shoehorning him is almost impressive. The UK leaving is a fact, EU member states have actually prepared themselves for a hard brexit not a soft or a cancelling. The issue is that seemingly the UK don't realize that it's supposed to happen at the end of March, they are still drafting unicorns and wondering whether they should be pink or blue. Today, Uk's parliament has ruled out soft and hard brexit, which is the source of the frustration, no one knows what you want.
Internet was installed last week in France and just bought a TV for the first time in my life today.
What I mean is that the UK haven't accepted the consequences of leaving the EU. We're waiting for them to go but they keep trying to hang on.
The British don't want to be a hostage to fortune, so they want the backstop removed, or at least time limited, neither of which the Irish want or will agree with; so Tusk's reputation is going down the pan, the UK left the EU on his watch!
The backstop was the UKs plan. The EU plan was to move the EU border to the Irish sea.
You were being serious.
The Uk would have no say in EU commercial policy or any part of discussions without being a member of the EU.
They'd have to accept the ECJ.
They'd have to pay the fees.
They'd have to accept the four freedoms.
Firstly why would they leave the EU and which of the above would pass through parliament and be acceptable to Brexiters, not one of them would, never mind all of them.
You really are just another shit stirrer.