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I think you must be taking the piss.
The South (where I'm from) will likely never go for it, though, that's my point.
Yes I do understand and I also agree with you.
If and when both are proven, it will be far too late. That is life and that is the dirty side of politics.
I don't own the business. I run it. And no it was not the only thing. I have my issues with the EU but generally I favour reforming from within.
No. There has been talk of it. Both in the UK and Ireland. Some have even advocated joining in exchange for a Unified Ireland.
No there hasn't, there absolutely hasn't, maybe, maybe a tiny idiotic group 0.0001% of the population think it might be a good idea, but even if those people exist I've certainly never heard of them or spoken to them. Don't make shit up.
Ah. One person.
https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-rejoining-the-commonwealth-4174082-Aug2018/
All I said is that there has been talk of it
All I said is that there has been talk of it
holy shit a british tory mp said it as well this is definitely unprecedented
Do you know who Mary-Lou is and what party she represents?Oh I didn't know British MP Tories were Irish. That's new.
Yes
Oh I didn't know British MP Tories were Irish. That's new.
Stop embarrassing yourself John, please.
I'm not mate. You said that what I was saying was a load of rubbish. I said that it had been talked about and it has been.
Thank you for your insight on this.
Looking at things from across the pond I've always wondered why politicians in NI can't sit down together at Stormont ,like they did before (isn't that part of the GFA as well as the border issue?) and present some sort of whole of the Isle of Ireland overview on the Brexit issue. At the moment those living in the North and to a perhaps greater extent in the South, seem to be accepting the argument is between Britain and the EU, and not so much between Nationalist and Unionist? After all if NI as whole voted to remain, then surely there was some voting across the Nationalist/Unionist divide, or was it purely on sectarian lines? Who knows, the promise (by all sides) of a reunification referendum, with a set time frame in the not too distant future could negate the effects of a backstop being necessary, or is that being too naïve?
Necessity is the mother of invention.
There might not be a solution now but with the incredible advances in technology and enough brainpower a workable solution ought not to be years away.
We may have to go with an interim solution first of all if it overcomes a no deal.
The only circumstances under which it might be considered would be as a concession to Unionists in the event of a United Ireland. Anybody who sees it as a serious prospect otherwise is someone just trying to be controversial or someone with absolutely no clue about the current mood in Ireland.
If Tories had any confidence in the ability of these bright minds to come up with a technological solution they wouldnt be shitting themselves so much about the backstop.
Which is the whole shame of it because before this Brexit debacle relations between the UK an the ROI were moving in a good direction.
2014
It’s certainly been an eye-opener over here as to how highly regarded we are by the political establishment in London.
The fecking Commonwealth
If ever there was a poster child for the utter delusion of modern British imperialism, the Commonwealth is surely it. A gentlemans club which allows the English to cling onto a lonely belief that they're more important than they actually are with the bonus of a nice sports day every few years.
Again, I'm sorry if I'm insulting those English among you who are decent, self-aware and sensible but in fairness, it's high time you all started calling these gobshites out for what they are on a regular basis.
It's 2019 - Johnny Foreigner isn't a savage anymore and the rest of the world hasn't looked to England for guidance in a long, long time. A half century spent blaming every feck up on the naughty EU and convincing yourselve of how important England and its empire is has done ye no favours whatsoever.
When are you going to accept your role as a member of the world and not a leader of it, stop trying to dictate to others and start getting along with them?
Do that and we'll find some crayons and sign up to your bloody commonwealth if it stops a tantrum. It literally doesn't matter a shit.
If ever there was a poster child for the utter delusion of modern British imperialism, the Commonwealth is surely it. A gentlemans club which allows the English to cling onto a lonely belief that they're more important than they actually are with the bonus of a nice sports day every few years.
Again, I'm sorry if I'm insulting those English among you who are decent, self-aware and sensible but in fairness, it's high time you all started calling these gobshites out for what they are on a regular basis.
It's 2019 - Johnny Foreigner isn't a savage anymore and the rest of the world hasn't looked to England for guidance in a long, long time. A half century spent blaming every feck up on the naughty EU and convincing yourselve of how important England and its empire is has done ye no favours whatsoever.
When are you going to accept your role as a member of the world and not a leader of it, stop trying to dictate to others and start getting along with them?
Do that and we'll find some crayons and sign up to your bloody commonwealth if it stops a tantrum. It literally doesn't matter a shit.
I don't think it is the sentiment of the people as a whole though. And when this is all done there is a high probability that a good many of this lot will be voted out.
You know I’d be for it if it gets me rights to live in Canada, Australia or New Zealand
The impression over here is that the average Joe on your side is basically ignorant about and indifferent to the Irish question.
who
I said it was a load of rubbish because only a very, very, very, very, very small percentage of our population were likely saying it. You proved my point by posting articles featuring such esteemed people as an English Tory MP and Sinn Fein's resident nutjob Mary-Lou.
I mean, sure, if by "there's talk of it", you genuinely only meant from 2 or 3 people who are utter nutjobs, then yes, you're not wrong, but if that is what you meant then why even bring it up? Bizarre.
or worse, thinks you're insignificant and will roll over when we send the navy round
who said she didn't actually want it
I know Geeb. It was a time when there were real efforts being made to try and reconcile things. To me it was gaining ground and gave hope to all manner of cooperation. But Brexit has soured this somewhat.
My hope is that some accord can be found and things can begin to build again.
But I am taken by the comments from some of the Irish posters on here and wonder whether my perception of a gradual reconciliation was misread.
Sincerest apologies, I just assumed a view like that had to be a British one.
I've no doubt it might be a difficult sell on the practicalities and costs in particular, but do you think that those in the south would turn down a once in a life time opportunity to unite the country regardless of the complexities? I mean I would genuinely be shocked if the south voted against reunification. Half my extended family are from the south as I'm sure most are most nationalist's families and I can't fathom large numbers of people voting to turn their backs on their own relatives north of the border but maybe I'm being naive.
Its now just the Commonwealth. Not the British Commonwealth. It isn't what it used to be and Ireland was a member of it until 1949.The fecking Commonwealth
If ever there was a poster child for the utter delusion of modern British imperialism, the Commonwealth is surely it. A gentlemans club which allows the English to cling onto a lonely belief that they're more important than they actually are with the bonus of a nice sports day every few years.
Again, I'm sorry if I'm insulting those English among you who are decent, self-aware and sensible but in fairness, it's high time you all started calling these gobshites out for what they are on a regular basis.
It's 2019 - Johnny Foreigner isn't a savage anymore and the rest of the world hasn't looked to England for guidance in a long, long time. A half century spent blaming every feck up on the naughty EU and convincing yourselve of how important England and its empire is has done ye no favours whatsoever.
When are you going to accept your role as a member of the world and not a leader of it, stop trying to dictate to others and start getting along with them?
Do that and we'll find some crayons and sign up to your bloody commonwealth if it stops a tantrum. It literally doesn't matter a shit.
Yeah it's our fault.
Every day we get dragged into these pitiful conversations about Nato, Secret Armies, the bloody Commonwealth, whatever the nasty EU have said or refused to say today or how the Irish are being difficult or unreasonable.
It's because every single one of the people bringing up these strawmen arguments is wholly incapable of presenting anything like a coherent, realistic and effective argument for the actual issues that matter. They come in all wallop and bluster, fling some shit at the walls, get embarrassed by anyone with even the merest notion of any of the issues at hand and then flounce about presenting bullshit arguments until everyone else gets so bored of calling them an idiot, they end up getting dragged into discourse with them out of some misguided sense of balance.
We need to stay strong. These people are idiots and they need to be told as much as loudly and as often as possible until the message sinks in.
I know exactly what it is.
You rarely see the lads out in Singapore and Rwanda pestering other countries to join up. If England dissolved as a nation tomorrow the Commonwealth would be forgotten about within 3 years. It exists as a means to pat ye on the head and tell ye you're still special.
Why? The voters won't care about expense to the point it will influence the vote.
Economists wouldn't be voting here. We've seen that with Brexit.