What the actual feck are you on about
You know nothing whatsoever about beer, mate.Or chocolate.
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What the actual feck are you on about
You know nothing whatsoever about beer, mate.Or chocolate.
Yes, staying in Europe & stopping this shit.
Double whoooosh.What the actual feck are you on about
It will be somebody else's problem when these lot inevitably quit or get voted out in the next year. The likes of Mogg probably won't hesitate to just send the troops in, it's not him who's going to be a victim of potential troubles.
If the red lines don't change from May and the UK leaves then the backstop is the only possibility other than No deal. even with No deal the Uk are still responsible to respect international law.
There are solutions but none are wanted by the UK.
That's one of them, the other is to have NI in the CU/SM. Now of course the risk is that Scotland will want the same deal but is that really an issue? After all brexiteers are big on self determination.
Also, you have to wonder why Norway and Switzerland two pretty rich countries haven't found that mythical technology that replaces custom checks, they have had decades.
Yeah it's a really weird situation, there is no solution to the GFA and leaving the EU simultaneously without fecking something up.
Anyone hoping we're going to get a reasonable Brexit is dreaming. My reasons why;
1. It's in the EU's best interests to undermine Brexit. If it is a horrible shitshow, other nations won't want to try it. We're either going to get Mays non-Brexit or we're going to get No-deal Brexit.
2. JC is to weak a leader to take advantage and steer us away from Brexit - it's risky and he won't do it. He'd rather watch the car crash and then try to pounce afterwards hoping people are desperate enough to vote for him to deal with the aftermath.
3. I bet there are scores of multimillionaires who have brexit proofed their businesses and are waiting for a big no-deal brexit crash to happen, so they can pick up companies and property on the cheap. These people all probably fund the Tory party, or are Tory MP's.
1. It's in the EU's best interests to undermine Brexit. If it is a horrible shitshow, other nations won't want to try it. We're either going to get Mays non-Brexit or we're going to get No-deal Brexit.
2. JC is to weak a leader to take advantage and steer us away from Brexit - it's risky and he won't do it. He'd rather watch the car crash and then try to pounce afterwards hoping people are desperate enough to vote for him to deal with the aftermath.
3. I bet there are scores of multimillionaires who have brexit proofed their businesses and are waiting for a big no-deal brexit crash to happen, so they can pick up companies and property on the cheap. These people all probably fund the Tory party, or are Tory MP's.
I have a problem with the first point because after two years the EU hasn't undermined brexit and we still read that nonsense, it was daft then and it's even dafter now.
It's what i would do. I can't prove the EU is doing it - and they certainly wouldn't be overt about it if they were, but if i was in charge, i'd make it as difficult as possible.
You wouldn't because you don't need to. And your second sentence makes little sense due to a small fact that british media missed, the moment the UK are out they become competitors, EU nations will simply compete. The narrative of undermining and making it difficult is incredibly dishonest when the reason why the UK wants to leave is to create competitive advantages against the EU.
The facts are frankly simple, the EU didn't undermine brexit and brexit will put the UK on the other side of the table. It's the UK's decision.
That is not what sovereignty means.
It’s also completely stupid. Northern Ireland is a unique situation, so a bespoke agreement where they stayed in the Customs Union would be both hugely advantageous to NI and a big concession by the EU. Turning it down because of the DUP was ridiculous.
It wouldn't be a concession for the EU and it would probably be good for NI. But I don't even care, this has absolutely nothing to do with the sovereignty of the UK, internal borders do not change the sovereign. Several EU members have part of their territories out of the EU's.
The talk is that people are more worried about a Corbyn led government than a no deal Brexit.
No need. With Ireland there is and need is the mother of invention. So something will be found. The question is when and what to do in the interim.
That's a stupid tweet from Tusk. All he's doing there is giving Brexiteer's fuel for their "blame the big bad EU" stance.
The feck?
Not letting Corbyn off the hook either by the sounds of it.
That stance resolutely resisted facts all the way so this is unlikely to change anything.
And let's face it, it's funny.
He's a patronising twat.The feck?
Like everything he and his crowd have done has been pre-planned to the last crossed 't' and dotted 'i'.
Greece was a juggernaut careering down the road towards them.
But they were caught with their fingers up their arses and brains in neutral.
This doesn't help.
This, coupled with what the Lithuanian PM said in Davos, sounds like the EU version of "gerronwithit". The 27 seem to be tired of the UK at this point.
There is always a need to make things easier and cheaper, so I'm not buying the need argument, particularly when you could apply it everywhere.
Failing to adequately prepare for and prevent a financial crisis is quite different to actively pushing for something without, y'know, knowing what that thing entails.
I agree it certainly doesn't help. But 1) it's funny and 2) at this point the only helpful thing is that the UK parliament comes up with a realistic option. Until that happens, nothing actually helps.
Maybe not. But such is the way of things. The GFA went to the wire - even overran by a day.
That's irrelevant, we are talking about inventing a technology not drafting an agreement.
Edit: And Tusk using twitter to vent, is stupid. A little bit of decorum can't hurt.
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And it will be invented. And probably constitute a blueprint for customs all over the world. My point is that pressure generally moves things along.
Any plan would have been better than "we'll get everything that we demand before we leave, trust us, the EU will blink first"
This entire thing is just a total shitshow. I'm out, just let us in the North of Ireland have our reunification referendum and we'll be on our way.And that's irrelevant to this conversation, this isn't about whether it will be invented in an unknown timeframe. We are talking about it being a thing in the next months and actually working in order to be used at a large scale.
Would it not help matters for NI if all its politicians got back to Stormont and started to govern the place again?
At the moment it seems Britain and the EU are making the decisions (or not!) it is assumed any reunification referendum would surely have to involve and have the consent of both North and South, hence to avoid making the mistake of Brexit there would have to be something more than a binary choice on offer? Or are we way past this stage now?
I don't like this any more than you but there is an awful lot of standing on the sidelines and hand-wringing on this thread. All this 'pointing out' to us thick Brits by you, Paul and others is not helping.
We have a parliamentary system in this country that is one of the oldest on the planet and has been the blueprint for countless other democracies.
We had a democratic referendum. Now you can argue until you are blue in the face about whether it should have taken place or what the question should have been or what leave meant.
But by making comments like that Tusk is not just insulting the Brexiters he's laughing at 17.4 million British people. This will be meat and drink to the hard-liners.
Look, this thing will be sorted one way or another. What the fallout will be, nobody knows. I fear the worst. But it will be sorted and the world will move on.
It's party time in mainland Europe on 30th March.
So the daily jibes and insults from British Brexit politicians are OK, as soon as someone makes a sarcastic remark the Brexiters get so upset.
He has the patience of a saint dealing with the idiots he's had to deal with for the past two years.
Perhaps you can have another one in a few years when Italy goes too.
It's not the first time that you do this posturing nonsense after making irrelevant posts. None of what you just wrote is even remotely relevant to the post you responded to.