[Annihilate Now!]

Watch the passage of the play, we had the ball and suddenly lost it deep, Onana was backing away to his goal line while Szobzlai was running into the center unopposed and could have made a shot but he passed to his right and you would see Onana trying to readjust and Salah hits it first time quickly, no GK saves it to be fair unless the GK guessed Szobzlai would pass rather than shoot.

I have, and again, look at how little Onana adjusts his position - I keep saying this, but again, there is a reason you rarely see goalkeepers in that position for a chance like that - even if they're having to move across goal.

He's incredibly flatfooted.

 

[Utd heap]

I have never seen a man so composed while chipping a ball out of play. World class.

 

[pratyush_utd]

His position for Salah goal was so bad. That shot would have been saved by any competent shot stopper.

His on ball game is not that great. Passing is more hit and miss.

 

[Andycoleno9]

Watch the passage of the play, we had the ball and suddenly lost it deep, Onana was backing away to his goal line while Szobzlai was running into the center unopposed and could have made a shot but he passed to his right and you would see Onana trying to readjust and Salah hits it first time quickly, no GK saves it to be fair unless the GK guessed Szobzlai would pass rather than shoot.

Every shot is savable. And i will not even mention Dave (which i just did ). Just look at saves which gks did this weekend.
But Onana's poor positioning, short reach and bad reflexes are making every shot unsavable.
Alisson or Raya would save 2nd and 3rd goal.

 

[Wolfbot]

Seems a very average goalkeeper to me, if even that. There are plenty keeper's playing at much smaller clubs that are far more impressive regularly.

You can't expect keepers to regularly make world class saves when conceding quite a lot of chances, that would be unfair. At this point though, it feels like just about anything toward the corner from inside the box is more likely than not to get past Onana. Doesn't look good enough at all.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

I have, and again, look at how little Onana adjusts his position - I keep saying this, but again, there is a reason you rarely see goalkeepers in that position for a chance like that - even if they're having to move across goal.

He's incredibly flatfooted.

I think Onana's mistake was he made a slightly late step to his left, Salah hits it first time and even if Onana guessed it was a pass to Salah he would still have to make a guess on when Salah will shoot, and which side he will aim his shot at, Onana most likely in that second thought Salah will bend it to the other side hence him angling his body to his right and his late step to the left, it was a quick attack and he was backing to his goal line since he was away from it.

Szobzlai before passing to Salah, notice Onana is focused on making sure he keeps an on Szobzlai in case he takes a shot


When the ball is passed to Salah, Onana is trying to adjust in get central


When Salah takes the shot, Onana was in a spot to allow to react in case Salah aims at the far post


What could have been done better by Onana is perhaps to guess that the ball will go to Salah and readjust his position earlier but it is not an egregious error for me.

I still believe he is not a good GK in terms of saving shots or making good decisions when facing attacks, first goal he should have moved better and faster to his right side, second goal it was literally right under him and he should've saved it, third goal I think it is bit too hard to deal with.

Edit: Compare Onana to Allison, when Zirkzee shot, you could see Allison already guessing that Zirkzee will aim at the far post and Allison was able to save the shot, wasn't an easy one to save but because Allison is an excellent GK, he can make such saves, Onana most likely does not.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

A player we could have picked up for a fraction of the cost and determined if he was actually good enough. Instead we end up buying for ~50m and he’s become a fixture by necessity

Too ball dominant for a player that should be a complimentary element for our build up.

Hasn’t spent enough time improving as a shot stopper

 

[Annihilate Now!]

I think Onana's mistake was he made a slightly late step to his left, Salah hits it first time and even if Onana guessed it was a pass to Salah he would still have to make a guess on when Salah will shoot, and which side he will aim his shot at, Onana most likely in that second thought Salah will bend it to the other side hence him angling his body to his right and his late step to the left, it was a quick attack and he was backing to his goal line since he was away from it.

Szobzlai before passing to Salah, notice Onana is focused on making sure he keeps an on Szobzlai in case he takes a shot


When the ball is passed to Salah, Onana is trying to adjust in get central


When Salah takes the shot, Onana was in a spot to allow to react in case Salah aims at the far post


What could have been done better by Onana is perhaps to guess that the ball will go to Salah and readjust his position earlier but it is not an egregious error for me.

I still believe he is not a good GK in terms of saving shots or making good decisions when facing attacks, first goal he should have moved better and faster to his right side, second goal it was literally right under him and he should've saved it, third goal I think it is bit too hard to deal with.

Edit: Compare Onana to Allison, when Zirkzee shot, you could see Allison already guessing that Zirkzee will aim at the far post and Allison was able to save the shot, wasn't an easy one to save but because Allison is an excellent GK, he can make such saves, Onana most likely does not.

Fair breakdown - but I think the issue is that he just hasn't moved enough between your first screenshot and your last one - I would expect a top keeper ot have covered a lot more ground then that.

Also he does react a split-second late to the Szob pass - it's only a split-second but that makes for a big difference when you're in net.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Fair breakdown - but I think the issue is that he just hasn't moved enough between your first screenshot and your last one - I would expect a top keeper ot have covered a lot more ground then that.

Also he does react a split-second late to the Szob pass - it's only a split-second but that makes for a big difference when you're in net.

I somehow agree on the bolded bit, but even though it is a big difference, its not worse than other goals he conceded, like the second goal, or the goal in the FA cup final, that's probably his weakness perhaps, low shots that he can get down to quick enough

 

[humdinger]

Beaten at his near post for that Salah goal. I mean it was a decent hit but not unstoppable.

He’s just not very good, unfortunately.

 

[sebsheep]

It is absolutely horrible positioning though? Even if we're to say Onana is totally blameless for not getting across (say he had just save a shot and was getting up or something) being in that position for a shot from your left IS horrible because you're leaving your whole near post exposed.

Again, there is a reason why you don't often see keepers in that position for shots like that.

I think you're talking about being in a bad position rather than bad positioning. The latter being a deliberate choice. He's just ended up there due to the passage of play, takes a step across and sets himself for the shot. If he takes the extra step then he probably never gets to dive in time.

 

[Jordan_mufc]

I think Onana's mistake was he made a slightly late step to his left, Salah hits it first time and even if Onana guessed it was a pass to Salah he would still have to make a guess on when Salah will shoot, and which side he will aim his shot at, Onana most likely in that second thought Salah will bend it to the other side hence him angling his body to his right and his late step to the left, it was a quick attack and he was backing to his goal line since he was away from it.

Szobzlai before passing to Salah, notice Onana is focused on making sure he keeps an on Szobzlai in case he takes a shot


When the ball is passed to Salah, Onana is trying to adjust in get central


When Salah takes the shot, Onana was in a spot to allow to react in case Salah aims at the far post


What could have been done better by Onana is perhaps to guess that the ball will go to Salah and readjust his position earlier but it is not an egregious error for me.

I still believe he is not a good GK in terms of saving shots or making good decisions when facing attacks, first goal he should have moved better and faster to his right side, second goal it was literally right under him and he should've saved it, third goal I think it is bit too hard to deal with.

Edit: Compare Onana to Allison, when Zirkzee shot, you could see Allison already guessing that Zirkzee will aim at the far post and Allison was able to save the shot, wasn't an easy one to save but because Allison is an excellent GK, he can make such saves, Onana most likely does not.

Good breakdown and it's what I thought when I first watched it. Salah is an expert at hitting that far corner, and the ball was shifted to him quickly. I think there's an element of slow movement, but also trying to cover the far corner.

Either way, Mainoo and our horrendous rest defence are at fault for this goal

 

[thegregster]

He was terrible last season. He was the main reason we went out of the CL early. He made a howler in the FA cup final and could've cost us big time. We needed to sign somebody to at least challenge him.

 

[Remember the geese]

Either way, Mainoo

Was a foul.

 

[el_loco_bielsa]

He's in the centre of the goal (ever so slightly to the left) which is absolutely horrible positioning for facing a shot from his left hand side.

Here's a better picture for fairness.

He’s a mediocre keeper but far from your biggest issue which is why the critics aren’t panning him.

Your photo perfectly illustrates the issue. In this scenario Salah is beating most keepers, either with a near post finish or a far post finish depending on the keeper’s positioning.

Salah is virtually as good as Robben at executing that curled finish into the top left corner with accuracy and precision from this position. Onana is merely hedging his bets by positioning himself centrally.

The problems are all to do with what happened in your gaping chasm of a midfield which allowed this position to develop. By the time Salah is in this position, the horse has bolted.

 

[Born2Lose]

The summer before we signed this guy, Newcastle signed Pope for £10m and he's far more steady than both Onana and De Gea.

The problem with ten Hag's "everyone's best mate" management style is that players like Onana, Rashford and Bruno know there will be no consequences for poor performances.

 

[Oranges038]

I think Onana's mistake was he made a slightly late step to his left, Salah hits it first time and even if Onana guessed it was a pass to Salah he would still have to make a guess on when Salah will shoot, and which side he will aim his shot at, Onana most likely in that second thought Salah will bend it to the other side hence him angling his body to his right and his late step to the left, it was a quick attack and he was backing to his goal line since he was away from it.

Szobzlai before passing to Salah, notice Onana is focused on making sure he keeps an on Szobzlai in case he takes a shot


When the ball is passed to Salah, Onana is trying to adjust in get central


When Salah takes the shot, Onana was in a spot to allow to react in case Salah aims at the far post


What could have been done better by Onana is perhaps to guess that the ball will go to Salah and readjust his position earlier but it is not an egregious error for me.

I still believe he is not a good GK in terms of saving shots or making good decisions when facing attacks, first goal he should have moved better and faster to his right side, second goal it was literally right under him and he should've saved it, third goal I think it is bit too hard to deal with.

Edit: Compare Onana to Allison, when Zirkzee shot, you could see Allison already guessing that Zirkzee will aim at the far post and Allison was able to save the shot, wasn't an easy one to save but because Allison is an excellent GK, he can make such saves, Onana most likely does not.

The keeper will know by how the defenders in front of him are positioned what area of the goal to cover, because generally a defender should be in position block to off the most direct route to goal. The Zirkzee chance is one where this is most likely the case, Allison can anticipate by his position and body shape where he's going to shoot. It's not just pure guesswork.

That ball comes all the way through from midfield and Salah has a free shot on goal just inside 18 yard box, he has the whole goal to aim for and 9 times out of 10 he's putting that away regardless of what the keeper does. Onana will see that ball is coming across, at that point it's just a question of whether he's quick enough to cover the ground to get across. He wasn't, it was a goal that in reality he can do very little about because the issue comes from higher up the pitch that left Salah with a free shot on goal.

 

[despairingfool]

Chelsea got rid of Edouard Mendy within 2 seasons. We need to get rid of Onana, ETH, Antony and Casemiro. Onana is the worst shot stopper I've ever seen. So flat footed.

 

[Buster15]

At this level, the very last thing you should do is give the opposition time to get back into formation.
And yet week after week, he puts his foot on the ball and stands there waiting for them to to get back before he does anything with the ball.
What the hell are the goalkeeper coaches doing...

 

[RedRocket9908]

 

[Shady]

He has an extremely weird and unorthodox way of playing. Everything from the way he dives for the ball to his positioning. Looking more and more like another disaster signing.

 

[Cantonalegod]

He’s a mediocre keeper but far from your biggest issue which is why the critics aren’t panning him.

Your photo perfectly illustrates the issue. In this scenario Salah is beating most keepers, either with a near post finish or a far post finish depending on the keeper’s positioning.

Salah is virtually as good as Robben at executing that curled finish into the top left corner with accuracy and precision from this position. Onana is merely hedging his bets by positioning himself centrally.

He can't be in that position for a shot from that angle though.

If he's further to his left (in the correct position) and it gets curled into the far post fair enough, although that's a far more difficult skill than slotting it in through a massive gap at the near post.

In live play it looked awful, and definitely another "Henderson" moment.

 

[Hughie77]

He got beat for 2 goals that he should have saved, people can say this or that he's a poor keeper and he can cost you points. Not saying he cost them v pool but he should have kept the score at 0-1 at least. If anybody costs ETH his job he will.

 

[DJ_21]

Can we just talk about Salah goal. And how awful Onana positioning was. That’s absolutely horrendous.

 

[Remember the geese]

Can we just talk about Salah goal. And how awful Onana positioning was. That’s absolutely horrendous.

If the referee or VAR had done their jobs, we would have been awarded a free kick for a very obvious foul on Mainoo.

 

[pratyush_utd]

GK primary job is to save shots. Onana is bang average at that.

He gets involved in play but has average passing.

I am not sure how his signing was approved

 

[DJ_21]

If the referee or VAR had done their jobs, we would have been awarded a free kick for a very obvious foul on Mainoo.

He has to be stronger there though. That’s usually one of his strengths. Holding of players.

 

[Lay]

He's incapable of saving low shots. His technique is bizarre he dives in slow motion.

This is it for me. I don't think you can really change his technique either now. This will always be a massive flaw in his game

 

[Remember the geese]

He has to be stronger there though. That’s usually one of his strengths. Holding of players.

Stronger? Mac Allister is on his blind side and has literally barged him in the back with no interest in playing the ball. It's a shocking decision that was completely glossed over because the game was already won/lost.

 

[lex talionis]

GK primary job is to save shots. Onana is bang average at that.

He gets involved in play but has average passing.

I am not sure how his signing was approved

Club management got caught up in the mania to scapegoat De Gea and the obsession to bring in a “modern keeper”.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

Good breakdown and it's what I thought when I first watched it. Salah is an expert at hitting that far corner, and the ball was shifted to him quickly. I think there's an element of slow movement, but also trying to cover the far corner.

Either way, Mainoo and our horrendous rest defence are at fault for this goal

Yup, the issue was the ball loss in a bad position.

 

[Redstain]

GK primary job is to save shots. Onana is bang average at that.

He gets involved in play but has average passing.

I am not sure how his signing was approved

When hearing Rio and Evra speak about the feeling of having someone like Edwin behind them, imagine how it is for the defense knowing he's in between the sticks.

I don't rate Onana and I think it's for the primary purpose of him not being a shot-stopper. If he was world class at distributing the ball and the team lives and dies on that influence then it somewhat justifies his short-comings but United have essentially replaced a inconsistent goalkeeper with one of lesser quality and talent.

 

[OmarUnited4ever]

The keeper will know by how the defenders in front of him are positioned what area of the goal to cover, because generally a defender should be in position block to off the most direct route to goal. The Zirkzee chance is one where this is most likely the case, Allison can anticipate by his position and body shape where he's going to shoot. It's not just pure guesswork.

That ball comes all the way through from midfield and Salah has a free shot on goal just inside 18 yard box, he has the whole goal to aim for and 9 times out of 10 he's putting that away regardless of what the keeper does. Onana will see that ball is coming across, at that point it's just a question of whether he's quick enough to cover the ground to get across. He wasn't, it was a goal that in reality he can do very little about because the issue comes from higher up the pitch that left Salah with a free shot on goal.

Indeed, especially the bolded part, Salah simply had a free shot which he instantly decided to take it first time to the near post, 9 times of 10 no GK stops that

 

[LankyHoggie]

I never wanted him here to begin with but I was prepared to give him the benefit of doubt, he’s been significantly worse than I had ever imagined he would be.

He’s playing a different sport to Schmiechel, VdS or peak De Gea.
He’s not a patch on the likes of Van der Gouw, Romero or Lindegaard.
He’s been infinitely worse than Tim Howard or Roy Carroll or Barthez.

I don’t know if he’s better than Bosnich, Taibi, Foster or Henderson.

He is shite, really really shite, there’s no redeeming qualities there at all.
This piss taking clown is the most expensive goalkeeper in the club’s history.
Ten Hag should be sacked for this signing alone, and then sacked again for Antony, after getting sued.

 

[Erictheking7]

He's not a keeper who can win you games with his shot stopping in the way that DDG, Edwin or Big Pete have done in the past. He has a reputation for being a modern, ball playing keeper which is vastly overrated. Unfortunately he has about as much chance as ETH has of being here next season.
I can't believe we let the scouse have a free run at the Georgian keeper.

 

[Greck]

He needs to work on tracking crosses and pull backs. He almost seems to forget what side of the sticks he's standing at. It's not whether or not he could have saved some of them but how he cancels any chance he might have had. There is after all a deterrent factor that comes with good positoning, that is, influencing a shooter into missing straining to find either side of a well placed keeper

 

[KiD MoYeS]

He will lose his biggest ally within the club when Ten Hag is sacked, and he isn't the only one.

 

[morree]

He will lose his biggest ally within the club when Ten Hag is sacked, and he isn't the only one.

Yeah think so too, Onana will probably be one of the first players a new manger will look to replace, and for good reason to. Shocking shot stopper too be honest, Just feels like he doesn't save anything, whenever a shot comes at him you just know it will go in. and the thing he is suppose to be good at which are his feet we aren't even utilizing properly.

 

[bond19821982]

Yeah, Salah goal is on him. How can he leave that much amount of space is something I can't understand.

 

[spiriticon]

I think he's comfortably the worst No.1 I've seen at the club. I don't even think he's a goalkeeper sometimes. It feels like he's a failed midfielder who got repurposed.