[diarm]

I’m not so sure what all these agents worth their salt are doing if 200k a week wages are so easy to come by.

The likes of Saka, Jota, Son, Watkins, Neto, Kulusevski, Palmer, Maddison, Felix, Jackson, Eze, MacAllister, Chiesa, Gakpo, Szobozlai, Doku, Guimaraes, Gordon, Isak, Tonali, Paqueta, Bowen and Ings are all making less than 200k. Some considerably less.

As much as I like and rate Amad, he’s not in a position to be expecting a bigger wage than most of the names on that list. His contract situation gives him some power yes, as does his superb recent form, but the fact United has been a basket case in terms of wages handed out in the past ten years needs to be set aside now.

I’d love to see a salary package of around 100k basic and then solid performance related addons. He’s good enough that he can still make great earnings, but the club is covered by making a portion incentivised. It’s what we should be looking at in all future negotiations - not only as a way to control wage cost, but to weed out the mercenaries and maintain a hungry, motivated squad full of players who believe in themselves and are here for the right reasons.

 

[jem]

Deserves the new contract. Should be fairly decent bump as well and probably an assurance of mid contract re negotiations if he keeps his performance up

Sounds very sensible

 

[Yagami]

Some people can picture things better than others some people just accept things as they are. Just because a piece of a puzzel fits somewhere doesn’t mean it’s meant to be there.

Thats what I’ve been saying since the start but I was just happy for the boy getting game time until I noticed attacks die when they reach certain people. You don’t want people that got kick and run in positions that need elegance and smoothness.

That was the thing for me. I'm fine with him playing either position just to see him on the pitch like yourself, but, at RWB, I'm fine with Maz and potentially Antony there. With the 10 position, though, I don't think we have anyone else who offers the qualities Amad brings there (keeping the ball under pressure and in tight spaces, being able to dribble opposition players, is unselfish in his play and thrives on linking-up with others which naturally elevates his teammates, etc) so, imo, he's needed there more urgently than at RWB.

I'm quite happy with him in either role, although I do lean towards #10. He's the best we have in both of them at the moment, so which one he should play in depends on who we can play in the other and which combo is better for the team.

That goes for next season as well. If there's a really good #10 available that we can buy this summer but no suitable RWB, I'm happy for Amad to mostly play the wingback role next season with the new guy fitting in at #10. I would think the opposite would be more likely though, with us buying a RWB and Amad being used mostly at #10. Long term it's great that he's a strong option for both, although like I said I do think he'll end up in attack more often.

Like I said to @UnitedRepublic above, I'm with you. I'm fine with him just playing in general but, as things stand, I think he's needed in the 10 spot more for the reasons stated above.

As for next season, I'd be fine with him playing as a RWB but, though you say one, I think we'd need to bring in two to warrant not playing him there. Unless we try Mainoo there or Garnacho adapts to the role.

 

[Gordon S]

People put these "fair wages" need to realize that the ball is fully on his court. He could leave for free if he wants to, even if we decide to take that 1 year extention option.

I think it is essential that we move back to the old, ”no one is bigger than the team/club” thinking. Team comes first. If any player regardless of talent thinks he is worth way more than the club really wants to offer, then well, off you go. We have been trying to keep hold and keep value of our best players with high wages since Fergie left, and it does not work that well.
Amad is a top tier talent for sure, and i am a big fan, would hate to see him go, but if his biggest motivator is money and fame he can go. We need a team full of players that give a proper shit. Not just turning up and play out of their skin as soon as a contract is about to be negoiated.
Lucky for us i don’t think we will have much of a problem with Amad.

 

[red_de_pologne]

Good luck with that. Any good agent could easily get him 200k/wk.

I could bet his wages won't be near 200k. Let's see.

 

[lost7]

200k is insane, he's 22. We need to stop giving ridiculous contracts to our players. Not a single player in our team should be getting more than 200k actually.

Amad is a very promising player, so let's give him 120k or something close to that. And maybe bonuses depending on goals and assists etc

We've all seen what giving 300k+ to Rashford, Sancho, 250k to Martial etc has done. Even Casemiro and Bruno are on ridiculous wages, if we want to progress as a club that is no longer acceptable

 

[roonster09]

Good luck with that. Any good agent could easily get him 200k/wk.

He won't get 200k anywhere, except maybe from Saudi clubs.

He is very good talent and player, he is yet to play one proper full season at highest level.

 

[FrankWhite]

I’m not in the Wirtz camp personally, and think there is a very real chance, unless he goes to the perfect environment, that he doesn’t succeed in the PL. Also, I think we need someone more explosive than him there anyway. Those roles are 10s/wingers I feel - a more classic 10 may blunt us a bit. I think it’s why Amorim doesn’t seem to fancy Bruno in that role.

He doesn't like Bruno there because not only is not particularly quick, he's also pretty bad anlt carrying the ball. Wirtz is much better in both regard. Also, Amorim like one of the 10s to be more winger than a 10 and, the other to be the other way around. Nuno Mendes and Wirtz alone and we'll win alot of games.

 

[Rozay]

He doesn't like Bruno there because not only is not particularly quick, he's also pretty bad anlt carrying the ball. Wirtz is much better in both regard. Also, Amorim like one of the 10s to be more winger than a 10 and, the other to be the other way around. Nuno Mendes and Wirtz alone and we'll win alot of games.

I’m not particularly keen on Mendes either tbh. I think he’s a brilliant player, but he’s very much a left back. I’m just not a fan of us basically playing defenders on the wing. If our attacking width is going to come from the likes of Dalot and Mazraoui, the quality will be lacking (as demonstrated by Dalot, Mazraoui and Malacia since they have been played as wingers and not defenders).

Mendes vould be the best left back in the world, he’s that good, but he doesn’t have the final third quality to me. If anything, I think he’d be better suited playing Martinez’ position in this formation than wing back.

 

[Rolaholic]

 

[FrankWhite]

Saka takes corners though.

 

[FrankWhite]

I’m not particularly keen on Mendes either tbh. I think he’s a brilliant player, but he’s very much a left back. I’m just not a fan of us basically playing defenders on the wing. If our attacking width is going to come from the likes of Dalot and Mazraoui, the quality will be lacking (as demonstrated by Dalot, Mazraoui and Malacia since they have been played as wingers and not defenders).

Mendes vould be the best left back in the world, he’s that good, but he doesn’t have the final third quality to me. If anything, I think he’d be better suited playing Martinez’ position in this formation than wing back.

I haven't seen to much of Nuno, couple of games here and there, then looked at some of his stats. He seems quite capable going forward. He has pretty decent success in that role as well under Amorim as far as can tell.

 

[AR87]

We should have got his contract done 3-4 months ago. We have let it linger and now his agent can demand what they want as someone around the world would be prepared to offer him silly money

He wouldn't have signed a contract then when he wasn't even sure the manager of the club was interested in giving him actual opportunities to play.

 

[Vidooq]

If he can improve his finishing, boy, he is going to be deadly.

 

[sglowrider]

Bet ETH would have benched Saka too if he was at United.

 

[Grande]

Bet ETH would have benched Saka too if he was at United.

Maybe he’d bench Saka for Amad?

 

[sglowrider]

Maybe he’d bench Saka for Amad?

We would all be calling ETH a genius then.

 

[Grande]

We would all be calling ETH a genius then.

One million flies can’t be wrong

 

[Denis79]

Our best attacking player by far this season. Fantastic!

 

[tentan]

A new contract with only a slight increase in wages will be the best option. Dont want another Rashford situation.

 

[sglowrider]

A new contract with only a slight increase in wages will be the best option. Dont want another Rashford situation.

If only life was this easy.

His agent will then use other United players, never mind other players in the League incl Saka as comparisons. I can imagine the convo going like this:

"Antony isnt even a starter and yet he is on 200k per week, Mister Omar. Yoro who has barely played is on 115k/week.
Yet you are offering one of your most critical players—one who is one of the first names on the teamsheet; one who has more goal contributions per min than anyone in the league incl Saka, who just had his contract renewed at 200k/week. (Amad's currently on 28k/week) ...

This 50k/week seems very hurtful considering how much Amad loves the club. Its insulting to a player of his talent and potential. Maybe Amad needs to take his talent elsewhere where he will be more appeciated and loved.

What say you, Mister Omar?''




So if you were in Berrada's shoes, what would you do?

1) Tell Amad to take 50K/week? Then tell him to feck off by selling him next summer if he cant accept that?
2) Or give him Yoro parity at least?
3) Or somewhere between Yoro and Saka?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

If only life was this easy.

His agent will then use other United players, never mind other players in the League incl Saka as comparisons. I can imagine the convo going like this:

"Antony isnt even a starter and yet he is on 200k per week, Mister Omar. Yoro who has barely played is on 115k/week.
Yet you are offering one of your most critical players—one who is one of the first names on the teamsheet; one who has more goal contributions per min than anyone in the league incl Saka, who just had his contract renewed at 200k/week. (Amad's currently on 28k/week) ...

This 50k/week seems very hurtful considering how much Amad loves the club. Its insulting to a player of his talent and potential. Maybe Amad needs to take his talent elsewhere where he will be more appeciated and loved.

What say you, Mister Omar?''




So if you were in Berrada's shoes, what would you do?

1) Tell Amad to take 50K/week? Then tell him to feck off by selling him next summer if he cant accept that?
2) Or give him Yoro parity at least?
3) Or somewhere between Yoro and Saka?

Damn we gave Yoro silly money

 

[Rolaholic]

Damn we gave Yoro silly money

How do you think we were able to beat Madrid to his signature when they had been hot for him for quite some time?

 

[Desert Eagle]

If only life was this easy.

His agent will then use other United players, never mind other players in the League incl Saka as comparisons. I can imagine the convo going like this:

"Antony isnt even a starter and yet he is on 200k per week, Mister Omar. Yoro who has barely played is on 115k/week.
Yet you are offering one of your most critical players—one who is one of the first names on the teamsheet; one who has more goal contributions per min than anyone in the league incl Saka, who just had his contract renewed at 200k/week. (Amad's currently on 28k/week) ...

This 50k/week seems very hurtful considering how much Amad loves the club. Its insulting to a player of his talent and potential. Maybe Amad needs to take his talent elsewhere where he will be more appeciated and loved.

What say you, Mister Omar?''




So if you were in Berrada's shoes, what would you do?

1) Tell Amad to take 50K/week? Then tell him to feck off by selling him next summer if he cant accept that?
2) Or give him Yoro parity at least?
3) Or somewhere between Yoro and Saka?

I give him Yoro parity. Say something like
"You're one of the brightest young talents in the world and we value you as such. We want this to be your home and to build a team of the future around the likes of yourself, Yoro, Garnacho,Kobbie and Rasmus. Keep performing and improving and we will look forward to paying you even more money next resigning."

 

[gajender]

Damn we gave Yoro silly money

How do you think we were able to beat Madrid to his signature when they had been hot for him for quite some time?

115k a week isn't silly money by any means for Elite young talent with full season as starter behind him .

But as always I take any info about wages not that seriously .

 

[tenpoless]

Make you appreciate what an intelligent player he is

He is a smart player makes you appreciate how smart he is

 

[sglowrider]

Damn we gave Yoro silly money

And it's under Ineos... No blaming murtough on this

 

[sglowrider]

115k a week isn't silly money by any means for Elite young talent with full season as starter behind him .

But as always I take any info about wages not that seriously .

Agree. But he's only 18.

 

[Desert Eagle]

He is a smart player makes you appreciate how smart he is

Makes you appreciate how clever he is

 

[red_de_pologne]

Somehow I'm not worried about his contract neither about Amad signing it nor Ineos giving him too much. I imagine it will be well structured, with wages rising gradually + incentives.

 

[Skills]

He wouldn't have signed a contract then when he wasn't even sure the manager of the club was interested in giving him actual opportunities to play.

And that should still be a concern at this club, we're just horrifically bad at managing players at this age range.

I'd try and get a release clauses in - £40m any season we miss out on top 4 would be quite reasonable.

 

[Rojofiam]

Good luck with that. Any good agent could easily get him 200k/wk.

I think you'd be surprised. I don't see anyone offering him 200k per week just yet. I think an agreement will be found quite easily around 100-120k per week.

115k a week isn't silly money by any means for Elite young talent with full season as starter behind him .

But as always I take any info about wages not that seriously .

I agree. And despite the petty smear campaign about Yoro from Spanish newspapers close to Real Madrid claiming that we offered Yoro multiple times of what they did, and that's the only reason he isn't at Madrid right now, taking a look at Madrid's wage bill will quickly reveal that it's bullshit, unless they planned for Yoro to be their lowest or second lowest earning squad member.

Endrick is on €80k per week with him generally not thought to be as valuable of a profile and as big of a prospect as Yoro is in their respective positions.

I can probably say the same for Güler who's on €100k per week.

Lunin 86k, Fran García 100k, Brahim Díaz 140k

Madrid were probably going to offer between €80-120k per week to Yoro and we offered £115k (€140k).

I don't really see how we offered silly money, especially when the time for renewal comes in 3-4 years' time, Yoro should be one of the best defenders in the league by then, so it will be the perfect time to bump him up to 200k or more.

 

[Lu Tze]

I'd imagine he ends up somewhere around the 120-130k mark considering his age and profile. Palmer wages basically.

 

[Rojofiam]

And that should still be a concern at this club, we're just horrifically bad at managing players at this age range.

I'd try and get a release clauses in - £40m any season we miss out on top 4 would be quite reasonable.

Big clubs don't do release clauses unless they're obliged to in the case of Spanish teams. Especially not ones that are tied to certain conditions IMO.

 

[sglowrider]

 

[TsuWave]

A new contract with only a slight increase in wages will be the best option. Dont want another Rashford situation.

United fans are so funny. Why would he take that? He could simply just do another season and get a fat signing on bonus plus the wages he wants elsewhere.

As a reference point - Antony is reportedly on around £200K. Like why would Amad take a contract with a slight pay increase when he’s reportedly on £30K?

 

[TsuWave]

Pocket watching like it’s still early 2000s is crazy also. £115K hardly qualifies as “silly money” currently.

 

[Sunny Jim]

Deserves the new contract. Should be fairly decent bump as well and probably an assurance of mid contract re negotiations if he keeps his performance up

we could also do a Yoro here...annual increase written in the contract

 

[Sarni]

Pocket watching like it’s still early 2000s is crazy also. £115K hardly qualifies as “silly money” currently.

People still live in late 90s/early 2000s when it comes to assessing wages, thinking £10k a week is a normal wage for a PL footballer.

 

[sglowrider]

People still live in late 90s/early 2000s when it comes to assessing wages, thinking £10k a week is a normal wage for a PL footballer.

I remember being outraged by Trevor Francis' million pounds transfer. But the straw that broke the camels back for me was Roy Keane asking and getting 60k per week.

Since then I no longer cared as long as the club knows how to manage their budgets