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Nani at his best was unplayable. The issue with Nani was he was a confidence player and his bottom level tanked when he wasn't given trust, nothing about bad decision making or passing nonsense that I'm seeing from a couple of posts.Not really.
Nani was a winger that could play on either wing with equal effect and was as good with his left as his right.
Amad looks best suited to the right and possibly central and no disrespect to Nani but Amad seems the smarter footballer to me.
For me his name rolls out the tongue easily, I am African myself.Anyone else hate his name? Amad is like the opposite of something that rolls off the tongue. Diallo is a bit better but he’s basically never referred to that way.
He's very similar to Bernardo Silva for me.Not seeing Nani similarities. Nani was more risky and unpredictable. Amad seems more silky and ‘safe’ (for want of a better word).
It’s mad we’ve blown £160m on Sancho and Antony to fill that right wing spot when we’ve had this kid on the books all along and looks levels above the pair of them.
Nani never got out of the "he's an exciting player" phase. He only had two good seasons under his belt. Like you said, he struggled to get out of his bottom level.Nani at his best was unplayable. The issue with Nani was he was a confidence player and his bottom level tanked when he wasn't given trust, nothing about bad decision making or passing nonsense that I'm seeing from a couple of posts.
We have not seen Amad at his best yet so in essence it's not even a sensible comparison to make. Fundamentally they're different players to me as well.
I feel like Garnacho was sometimes overplayed last season. Hopefully ETH manages time better this year and actually uses Sancho and Amad and gives him and Rashy a rest especially with our Thursday-Saturday schedule.
That's not true. He clearly reached his best with us around 2010 and by the 2011/12 season was undoubtedly our best player, where no PL defense could stop him, both creatively and as a goalscorer because he could link up, find the right pass or score. The idea that he never got out of his developmental stage is nonsense.Nani never got out of the "he's an exciting player" phase. He only had two good seasons under his belt. Like you said, he struggled to get out of his bottom level.
Brilliant player when on his game.
Not seeing Nani similarities. Nani was more risky and unpredictable. Amad seems more silky and ‘safe’ (for want of a better word).
There were a few periods yesterday where his upper body strength surprised me a lot. Even at Sunderland he looked a little lightweight at times, so maybe it's an area he's been working on?Same. Also Nani's physique was crazy. Amad still looks a bit lightweight to me.
This. We didn't stand by him to help him recover his best form with managers preferring the work rate of Young and Valencia despite their offensive limitations. If there was a player to persist with, play into form, it was him because on his day he was unplayable.That's not true. He clearly reached his best with us around 2010 and by the 2011/12 season was undoubtedly our best player, where no PL defense could stop him, both creatively and as a goalscorer because he could link up, find the right pass or score. The idea that he never got out of his developmental stage is nonsense.
It's a squad game. I love Amad but I think it's quite obvious that one of the aims for this season will be to get Rashford firing again - he's the only forward we have who has form for a 20+ goal season.Me says "why interchangeable"?
Judging by quality, effort, and ability, our STARTING attacking trio should be
1. Garna - left
2. Hojlund - center
3. Amad - right
Zirkzee can play some games, and come off at 75min, wince Hojlund never plays a lot of minutes, and Zirkzee can compete with Hojlund if he can, only healthy. I can also see switching to two strikers attack and taking off wingers for
midfielders, for some games or if we are trying to shut games down in certain games
Rashford and Sancho have not done anything yet to show that they deserve wings more than Garna or Amad. On the contrary. And don't even get me started about Antony. The only reason he is still here is the idiotic money we paid for him and double idiotic wages we are paying him
Apparently Erik said about Amad, post match: "it has to be his year, he is not an inexperienced player, anymore" which sounds like they are bot selling him, and that Erik is open to give him playing time as long as Amad delivers
LOVE the souns of that. Best players must play.
I've seen some say this about Amad before. I always find it odd.no pace
Nani's decision making always seemed to be better when he played on the right. He was capable of being equally brilliant on either side, but his consistency on the left was all over the place whereas on the right he seemed a lot more consistent. I don't think it's a coincidence that the only season we played him almost exclusively on that side he was the best player in the league and was the main man in us winning the PL.Nani never got out of the "he's an exciting player" phase. He only had two good seasons under his belt. Like you said, he struggled to get out of his bottom level.
Brilliant player when on his game.
This is fine, Garnacho will also play on the left so plenty of game time to share between Amad and Garnacho. But I still think Antony will get at least same amount of minutes to Amad, that is THE problem.I guess first world problems but Garnacho is much better on the right so diallo is going to be competing with him while we keep playing Rashford on the left hoping he rediscovers his form
Nani was all about gym and muscles, but Amad has far better balance.Same. Also Nani's physique was crazy. Amad still looks a bit lightweight to me.
Antony was the dumb move. Already had Sancho and an emerging Amad. And yet we spunked £80million on a 20million player
Is it a language or dialect thing, maybe? It flows really nice for me, as a Norwegian.
For me his name rolls out the tongue easily, I am African myself.
It could be a version of the name "Ahmed", I think perhaps it's the difference in cultures, I find some names in the west hard to pronounce, especially last names of Eastern Europeans and Germans.
Amad is now deceptively strong and shields himself and the ball with ease. Whatever strength and conditioning regiment he’s on is working wonders. He’s become very hard to dispossess without fouling and will be a huge ‘dangerous area foul-winning asset’ because his close control is a magnet to poor and mistimed tackles.Same. Also Nani's physique was crazy. Amad still looks a bit lightweight to me.
I feel the same about Sancho and AntonyIt's a squad game. I love Amad but I think it's quite obvious that one of the aims for this season will be to get Rashford firing again - he's the only forward we have who has form for a 20+ goal season.
Garnacho arguably looked better on the right than he did the left last season so I think it's fine for him and Amad to share minutes there. We have to remember Amad has less than 600 minutes of Premier League football in the 3 years he's been at United. It's fine to start giving him regular minutes without necessarily having to start him every game.
Ideally we'd shift Antony and Sancho to get another in so we have a more potent front line. I'm not convinced either of those two are ever going to amount to anything in a United shirt.
Yeah, exactly you're supposed to give trust to the genius footballer rather than the workhorse and physicality monster, but we did the opposite.This. We didn't stand by him to help him recover his best form with managers preferring the work rate of Young and Valencia despite their offensive limitations. If there was a player to persist with, play into form, it was him because on his day he was unplayable.
He was never our best player. I love Nani as much as anyone else but you'd think he was a world class player going by caf.That's not true. He clearly reached his best with us around 2010 and by the 2011/12 season was undoubtedly our best player, where no PL defense could stop him, both creatively and as a goalscorer because he could link up, find the right pass or score. The idea that he never got out of his developmental stage is nonsense.
For that season he was, he obviously never stayed at that level due to some of the reasons we've mentioned. But I won't engage any further on Nani. Let's focus on Amad.He was never our best player. I love Nani as much as anyone else but you'd think he was a world class player going by caf.
I think he could have the same issues that Mata had in the middle in that he wasn't physical enough to be a factor off the ball and on it he could be knocked off it rather too easily so games passed him by. The technical ability is there, I just don't know if he would have the physicality to turn into the third midfielder off the ball like Bruno and the likes of KDB do.Yeah, exactly you're supposed to give trust to the genius footballer rather than the workhorse and physicality monster, but we did the opposite.
Back to Amad though, I agree with those saying he can also be a very good #10, the way he moves with and without the ball and his ability to keep and pass under pressure screams of someone that would be at home in the middle of a ball dominant team. We just need to see more of him. He definitely has that special something.
I've not ever noticed this as a weakness of his. Just think it's something people throw at young wingers. He has far better workrate than say, Rashford.He needs to improve his defensive game; tracking back and helping the right-back
I thought he did really well in that regard against rangers. He helped his full back out. Obviously this is something he’ll improve on. On the plus side I think he’s capable of being one of our most creative players and he’s exactly what we need in a RW. Can score and can createHe needs to improve his defensive game; tracking back and helping the right-back
Amad never easily gets knocked off the ball, I don't think he would have an issue there. And Bruno is a terrible 10 for a ball dominant team by the way, the guy more often than not treats the ball like a hot potato and his positional discipline is questionable.I think he could have the same issues that Mata had in the middle in that he wasn't physical enough to be a factor off the ball and on it he could be knocked off it rather too easily so games passed him by. The technical ability is there, I just don't know if he would have the physicality to turn into the third midfielder off the ball like Bruno and the likes of KDB do.
Valencia did play as a fullback a couple of times with an in form Nani ahed of him. It was like cheating playing FIFA.Nani's decision making always seemed to be better when he played on the right. He was capable of being equally brilliant on either side, but his consistency on the left was all over the place whereas on the right he seemed a lot more consistent. I don't think it's a coincidence that the only season we played him almost exclusively on that side he was the best player in the league and was the main man in us winning the PL.
One of the biggest mistakes that I do think SAF made in his time here was moving Nani back to the left to fit Valencia into the team. We really should have kept him on the right, and in hindsight the best move would have been to move Valencia back to fullback a couple of seasons earlier than we did. Imagine the utter devastation that a top-form Nani and Valencia together would have inflicted down that right side.
He was never our best player. I love Nani as much as anyone else but you'd think he was a world class player going by caf.
