Garnacho has more often than not started on the right this season? They are both left wingers, have played most of their careers at left wing. Rashford has been dropped for Garnacho multiple times, which with him being the star boy of the team shouldn't happen. With the right wing being useless both have filled in there with Rashford playing there this season more than Garnacho has. Again, Rashford shouldn't be losing the left wing position to a player like Garnacho. That says less about Garnacho and more about how poor Rashford has been. In an ideal world we get in a quality left winger and Garnacho can play back up to him.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Goals
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- Assists
- 4
- Yellow cards
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Garnacho has more often than not started on the right this season? They are both left wingers, have played most of their careers at left wing. Rashford has been dropped for Garnacho multiple times, which with him being the star boy of the team shouldn't happen. With the right wing being useless both have filled in there with Rashford playing there this season more than Garnacho has. Again, Rashford shouldn't be losing the left wing position to a player like Garnacho. That says less about Garnacho and more about how poor Rashford has been. In an ideal world we get in a quality left winger and Garnacho can play back up to him.
It's hard to blame a kid for acting that way when the guy who's club captain is ten times worse for it. If you don't want a team of petulant babies then it's probably not a wise idea to make the biggest petulant baby in the squad (maybe the entire league) the example to which the rest are supposed to aspire.
If we right now had a quality left winger, Garnacho would still start matches on the right. I'm not sure how you are failing to understand at this point, short of purposefully.
He needs to work on his passing first and foremost. You can’t be a top player whose only pass every time is a couple of yards away. It’s either dribble and shoot or nothing. While that is sometimes very effective, in the long run he needs to buildup his creativity and contribution in the buildup / linkup.
Definitely a failure to understand whatever point you are trying to make. The original point is Garnacho should be playing backup to a proper winger. He's a left winger (for united and argentina) and should be playing backup to Rashford not taking his spot (which says everything about Rashford). Never the less Rashford is poor and Garnacho gets starts . If you have a proper right winger Garnacho doesn't start there either. I'm really confused how you aren't able to understand a simple concept such as that.
Yeah. He should ideally be a supersub for 20 mins. But the horrible squad planning has allowed him to believe he is already a superstar when he is clearly not. Compare his performance with someone like yamal, miles apart.insane but yeah, the use of AI - not only in academics, but in the workplace as well is becoming an issue at times, as people struggle to distinguish between when it's appropriate to use, and when it isn't.
Anyway, back on topic. Garnacho is a very selfish player. He needs to mature in his play, and mature fast, because he's not good enough to justify all those stupid selfish decisions he continuously takes.
Yeah, worlds apart actually. I guess it says as much about Yamal's quality, as it does about Garnacho's lack of intelligence. Not many wingers are currently close to Yamal.
What we really need is a legit right winger. If the right side was good, Garnacho won't get anywhere near as much criticism as he's had. For one, he'll split time with Rashford in their favoured position and two, we won't funnel as much of the attack down his side because the rest the team will play towards the best option.
We do need a legit right winger, I just think we also need a new starting left winger as I think Rashford can't be relied on and is no longer the player we thought he would eventually become. If we had 2 legit wingers on either side, garnacho would be a bench option which is where I see his talent being in a title fighting United team (he may prove me wrong). Which is why I don't have too much criticism for Garnacho as I think he is performing relative to his abilities (he's not a physical monster and he's not a technical monster). It's also why I emphasis Rashford often as he is supposed to be the legit winger and is far from that. I have more critisicm and disappointment in Rashford than I do for Garnacho as Rashford is the one who is and has been stinking up the place for a while now relative to his status within the team.
Watching the Sporting vs city game, and the way the Sporting players keep the ball, their passing accuracy, technical ability,and sound decision making.. Garnacho has allot to work on to be a regular under Amorim
Garnacho is a decent propsect but nothing more.
His creative numbers are above average but he compares very poorly against most of the elite level wingers in his age bracket, Savinho/Olise/Yamal/Doue/ etc and I could go on. When you start to compare him vs players 2+ years older than him it's not even close I.E Palmer/Saka/Vini etc.
United are expected to compete vs these sides so there's no reason why we lack such an objective reality about the ability Garna has. He is not now nor has he ever actually produced at an elite level, not in goals/assists/chances created/dribbles/key passes/progressive passes etc etc
When you look at the respective numbers for truly elite players like Messi/Neymar/Hazard/Mbappe etc they were all so so far ahead of him at this age it's scary.
The fact is that Adnan Januzaj was actually performing better than Garnacho at the same age and we know how that went, some United fans are fairly deluded as to the ability of academy players and I'm yet to see any actual analysis of his game which goes beyond said persons eye test/hopes and dreams.
United's wide options are dire and this has been the main reason we struggle to score goals.
Two wingers and a left back should be priority in Jan/Summer 2025.
His creative numbers are above average but he compares very poorly against most of the elite level wingers in his age bracket, Savinho/Olise/Yamal/Doue/ etc and I could go on. When you start to compare him vs players 2+ years older than him it's not even close I.E Palmer/Saka/Vini etc.
United are expected to compete vs these sides so there's no reason why we lack such an objective reality about the ability Garna has. He is not now nor has he ever actually produced at an elite level, not in goals/assists/chances created/dribbles/key passes/progressive passes etc etc
When you look at the respective numbers for truly elite players like Messi/Neymar/Hazard/Mbappe etc they were all so so far ahead of him at this age it's scary.
The fact is that Adnan Januzaj was actually performing better than Garnacho at the same age and we know how that went, some United fans are fairly deluded as to the ability of academy players and I'm yet to see any actual analysis of his game which goes beyond said persons eye test/hopes and dreams.
United's wide options are dire and this has been the main reason we struggle to score goals.
Two wingers and a left back should be priority in Jan/Summer 2025.
I mean this with respect. He needs to grow a brain. Simple passes that benefit the team (not him) he doesn't make them. Brainless shots, bad misses, ignoring teammates, it's very frustrating but
He's very hardworking, he constantly attacks the full back. He's skillful, good to watch, he has a lot of ability. Hopefully a new manager will be the making of him. He is one of only few in the squad who definitely has the ability.
He's very hardworking, he constantly attacks the full back. He's skillful, good to watch, he has a lot of ability. Hopefully a new manager will be the making of him. He is one of only few in the squad who definitely has the ability.
He has a lot to learn about the game, but watching sporting and their players and how smart and technical they seem, I think Garnacho will have a great opportunity to become a great player under Amorim. He has all the attributes you cant teach but he is so frustrating to watch at times cause of the bad decisions. Its even funny to look at him asking for the ball everytime. when its on the opposite side of the pitch, he makes a run and then throws his arms in the air complaining that he wasnt played through every time!! But he works hard, has good athelthicisim and a good finish on him.
Ooo seems like that stung him a bit. So no one in training says that to him? I don't see anything wrong with what that guy said.
Ooo seems like that stung him a bit. So no one in training says that to him? I don't see anything wrong with what that guy said.
You don't think it's weird to tell someone you don't know while sticking a camera in their face that they're doing shit at their job?
Garna was shite last game but I enjoyed him giving it back.
Not the time or place, and it's the way he says it too. Absolute tool.
Can't stand people like this prick holding the phone
Nah. It was not like he was abusing him. And he said what most of us were saying in here anyways. Taking offence to someone saying you need to improve? I just find that reaction a bit funny.
Ooo seems like that stung him a bit. So no one in training says that to him? I don't see anything wrong with what that guy said.
People are way too comfortable being idiots.
It’s ridiculous, childish behaviour.
I just don't see what's wrong with saying he needs to improve? Most of us agree he's not been good enough. I can understand if he was hurling abuse at him but that wasn't the case. Does the truth hurt him that much?
From Garnacho or from that fan?
From the fan. The way people behave these days it’s tiring.
A lot of people in here talking about needing to sign wingers. If this was last summer, I would say yes, absolutely. But we've just hired a head coach who doesn't play with wingers. He plays with two central AMs and wingbacks. Assuming he sticks to the same system, seems a bit redundant to bring in wingers. I would imagine, if anything, our focus should be bringing in versatile wide players who are more in the wide midfielder/attacking wingback category.
Meh, I'd say it's childish from Garnacho too. Just don't say anything and move on. And let's not use his age as an excuse; he’s played enough games for the senior team to know better by now. I recall him responding to someone on Twitter earlier in the season too who posted a compilation of his plays. The best and the easiest way to shut these lot is by showing it on the pitch.
I genuinely wonder if anyone says anything to him during training for him to take that much offence at that. Surely, the players and coaches would be all over him trying to tell him on what and where he needs to improve.
It's strange behaviour. Imagine you are doing your job and some random comes up to you, puts a phone in your face and tells you to do x y and z better. It's odd and a surefire way to earn yourself a slap or two.
Correct response from Garnacho. If anything he was too nice to that “fan”.
Agreed. The modern football fan winds me right up.
A small correction. He's doing his job terribly. Hence the criticism. If he was performing well, no would say anything about him.
100%
Everyone is so quick to just slag off everything United these days...but whatever makes them happier I guess.
I mean... the fan is not wrong. I wouldnt mind it if Garnacho followed the fan his advice and passed better today than last game. Garnacho is reaction is fine, dont see any problem with that?
Do you think he’s passing badly on purpose? Do you think that fan is going to help Garnacho? Why is he shoving a phone in his face, trying to provoke a reaction? It’s just needlessly dickish.
It's just funny to me as he appears to be a bit stung by what seems to be nothing more than constructive criticism.
Exactly. The fact that the guy is videoing it tells you all you need to know about his motivation.
It's not constructive criticism. It's just criticism.
Well let's put down passing badly to him just being bad at it. Do we atleast say he's not passing at all on purpose? There's many instances when he doesn't pass at all. It's been one of my major criticism of him.
Such a bizarre hill to die on. I can’t help but feel you’re trying to get the same pointless reaction on here as that guy was at the stadium.
Telling what he's doing badly and what he can improve does seem constructive to me.
Guy behind the phone is clearly a bell.
Well played by Garnashers, now go out there, control the ball, shoot and pass it better. That'll learn him.
I think.
Well played by Garnashers, now go out there, control the ball, shoot and pass it better. That'll learn him.
I think.