Paul the Wolf
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More of the question is why do you even care?
This makes no sense.
More of the question is why do you even care?
You are all jokers. One lemon and
This makes no sense.
Is in why do i care? I really don't... only you do, even people that don't live here do.
Sweet... I have orange's...they really don't give a feck - yet all is grand in central euro land? Rasing right wing?
It's okay if you want to come round to mine and have some REAL beacon with HP brown source. I have feeling you miss it
I haven't eaten beacon in a long time but I've had bacon, By the way the HP brownsourcesauce is made in the Netherlands and the bacon is from Denmark.
As I said let me know, in 5 years time from Farageland.
Do you know what glass houses means...
It very much seems like you don't.
I have no idea how that proverb applies here. Who is criticising the UK for Brexit while doing the same thing?And yet here we are?
Context it then? (Not as in definition as in this context)
I have no idea how that proverb applies here. Who is criticising the UK for Brexit while doing the same thing?
It is bizarre that anyone can think Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster with zero benefits and huge negative impacts, just as was predicted by the reman campaign. Leave was just outright lies and obvious lies at that. Now the Uk will have to suck it up until they eventually come crawling back to the EU who would be well within their rights to want nothing to do with a nation that left and caused everyone so much grief.
And that is just scratching the surface.
- Trade" Billions per year pissed away. Somewhere between 7.4 and 13.2% of all trade, so a much bigger percentage of trade with the EU.
- Migration up and the sort of migration people hate even more than mainly white EU citizens legally working here.
- Economy: £140 billion smaller
Far from the NHS getting multiple millions per day more the system continues the gutting process Cameron started (imagine fecking a dead pig's head only being the third worst thing you will be remembered for?).- Freedom of movement within the EU gone. Those who don't travel = no difference. Those who do and/or want to work or live in the EU = fecked or need to break/reduce their connection to the UK, often at great cost.
- Employment: 2 million jobs lost or not created
- Personal income: A £2000 per person pa loss so far on average. £3,200 on average in London.
- New trade deals: not many as our bargaining power is hugely diminished and those that have happened are on hugely disadvantaged terms e.g. Australia and are a miniscule percentage of what we lost by leaving the EU
- Fishing rights: gained little, lost lots.
Small business exports: fecked- Attractiveness to international business: hugely reduced and that will have a massive and ongoing impact to the UK economy which will reduce almost everyone's standard of living in various ways - directly and indirectly.\
- Importance as a world power: reduced even further.
- Nigel Farage
Benefits:
- Ability to say you are English without getting locked up. These days.
- Erm, land of hope and glory or something.
So why cherp up, if you've got nothing too add? If @Paul the Wolf and i, was having this talk in the tollgate. You won't step in, talk shite.
Boring didn't read...
Boooo, vote for right wing? Nah feck that..be who you are and love all people.
a) only one of is talking nonsense
b) this is the Caf (a discussion forum) and the argument that violence may ensue for pointing out nonsense if you encountered me elsewhere is truly bizarre. BTW Hull is the traditional location for this sort of internet hardman nonsense.
c) you don't get who does and doesn't reply to your posts (obviously)
d) I was directly responding to your request that I looked for some context where your your glass houses comment may apply, and that appears as mythical as Brexit benefits. Weird that you ask for a response and then get shitty when you get one that you seemingly can't answer/don't like.
You are having a mare in this this thread.
No Hull is just under privileged. I said the the tollgate because that is my local and I was being lazy!
I'm not hard at all, I can take a punch or three, I don't mean it in a threatening way just was having a discussion with Paul and in no way was it meant threatening.
And yes I'm dyslexic from hulme with zero GCSCS, but will I give up... you can feck right off.
Hull is an old Caf joke. Maybe before your time.
Fair enough but when you say "You wouldn't say that to me in the pub" it does usually mean something else.
What has any of that got to do with anything? I wasn't having a go at your spelling, or writing, or your background, or your levels of formal education. If you join a discussion on a discussion forum you have to expect discussion.
Well, you was the one who stepped in and all was I saying I'd that you wouldn't, have if I was talking in person, this has nothing to do with you.
I find it rude, I wasn't being horrible to Paul in fact the reason I asked him was because he is an ex pat, yet here you are - chatting broken biscuits? Taking us back to bullet points on why sh*t has gone wrong. Okay life is bad.. but where I'm from is it feck all.
I'm just an positive chap trying to see the light in this, I'm sorry for going defensive that is not who I am anymore, the old me came out a bit there. Sorry for that
When grammar nazis attack dyslexic person, when they have nothing left. . .
Benefits:
- Ability to say you are English without getting locked up. These days.
- Erm, land of hope and glory or something.
If brexit is so bad how come it created the best thread on the caf?
If brexit is so bad how come it created the best thread on the caf?
As long as @Paul the Wolf is around, it'll still keep popping up, even if it means he's only speaking to himself.
Perhaps the question is why don't we care as much or more than Paul.
Why is the EU and it's rules so vaguely understood by even politicians and the people that wrote the Labour manifesto for Corbyn and all misunderstandings on choosing the customs union, leaving FoM, the four freedoms.
Membership was cheap, it was better to be in than out. UK had a strong position within and cutting off trade with your neighbours makes no sense. With the climate concerns it makes it even more necessary to trade easily locally. Dissatisfied people had the chance to leave, now you don't.
It is bizarre that anyone can think Brexit has been an unmitigated disaster with zero benefits and huge negative impacts, just as was predicted by the reman campaign. Leave was just outright lies and obvious lies at that. Now the Uk will have to suck it up until they eventually come crawling back to the EU, who will be well within their rights to want nothing to do with a nation that left and caused everyone so much grief.
And that is just scratching the surface.
- Trade" Billions per year pissed away. Somewhere between 7.4 and 13.2% of all trade, so a much bigger percentage of trade with the EU.
- Migration up and the sort of migration people hate even more than mainly white EU citizens legally working here.
- Economy: £140 billion smaller
Far from the NHS getting multiple millions per day more the system continues the gutting process Cameron started (imagine fecking a dead pig's head only being the third worst thing you will be remembered for?).- Freedom of movement within the EU gone. Those who don't travel = no difference. Those who do and/or want to work or live in the EU = fecked or need to break/reduce their connection to the UK, often at great cost.
- Employment: 2 million jobs lost or not created
- Personal income: A £2000 per person pa loss so far on average. £3,200 on average in London.
- New trade deals: not many as our bargaining power is hugely diminished and those that have happened are on hugely disadvantaged terms e.g. Australia and are a miniscule percentage of what we lost by leaving the EU
- Fishing rights: gained little, lost lots.
Small business exports: fecked- Attractiveness to international business: hugely reduced and that will have a massive and ongoing impact to the UK economy which will reduce almost everyone's standard of living in various ways - directly and indirectly.\
- Importance as a world power: reduced even further.
- Nigel Farage
Benefits:
- Ability to say you are English without getting locked up. These days.
- Erm, land of hope and glory or something.
I’d also add (as negatives, obviously) the inestimable opportunity cost in both the public and private sector of devoting so much effort to trying to patch together again something that worked fine and was then wilfully smashed up. Soft power also took a big hit, including the creative sector (for example, there is now a huge amount of red tape for bands touring EU countries which is disproportionately expensive unless they are arena or stadium level acts).
As for positives, the fact neither the Tories nor Farage mention the benefits of their flagship policy in 2019 tells you everything you need to know. It made some multi-millionaires and billionaires a bit richer though, which I’m sure gives us all a warm glow.
" "It's very well known that I voted Brexit, but the idea is that after you've done it, you then go in and be sensible about the relationships you have with people"
https://www.newsweek.com/iron-maide...bout-resulting-eu-travel-restrictions-1604878
The exceptionalism of some people of what affects them and cherry pick of what work for them:
sensible...what about being sensible with families that had been torn apart? what about being sensible with farmers and fishermen, what about sensible with people that wants to study and work abroad?
But yes, let make an exception for what you want to be working. So much Schadenfreude.
Surely Iron Maiden are big enough to pay someone to manage all that stuff anyway? Elton John and Feargal Sharkey in particular have done a gone job in explaining this problem but were met with asinine comments like “but the Beatles managed to play Hamburg in the early 60s so what’s the problem?”.
I’d also add (as negatives, obviously) the inestimable opportunity cost in both the public and private sector of devoting so much effort to trying to patch together again something that worked fine and was then wilfully smashed up. Soft power also took a big hit, including the creative sector (for example, there is now a huge amount of red tape for bands touring EU countries which is disproportionately expensive unless they are arena or stadium level acts).
As for positives, the fact neither the Tories nor Farage mention the benefits of their flagship policy in 2019 tells you everything you need to know. It made some multi-millionaires and billionaires a bit richer though, which I’m sure gives us all a warm glow.
It all depends on size. Big bands and singers no problem. The shitty size band that you could go touring with your shitty van through the eurotunnel, is not possible anymore capping possible new good music and maybe the need to give up when you might be actually goodEuropean bands now have to jump through admin and tax hoops to tour there. Mostly not worth it.
It all depends on size. Big bands and singers no problem. The shitty size band that you could go touring with your shitty van through the eurotunnel, is not possible anymore capping possible new good music and maybe the need to give up when you might be actually good
It's a bit more than just very small bands. Mid size Irish acts are making very little touring the UK at the moment. Fees are down and admin and costs are up.
Requests for grants from Culture Ireland are helping most bands do it.
I’d also add (as negatives, obviously) the inestimable opportunity cost in both the public and private sector of devoting so much effort to trying to patch together again something that worked fine and was then wilfully smashed up. Soft power also took a big hit, including the creative sector (for example, there is now a huge amount of red tape for bands touring EU countries which is disproportionately expensive unless they are arena or stadium level acts).
As for positives, the fact neither the Tories nor Farage mention the benefits of their flagship policy in 2019 tells you everything you need to know. It made some multi-millionaires and billionaires a bit richer though, which I’m sure gives us all a warm glow.