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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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I think there’s a chance she will lose the vote.

With all of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP voting no confidence, they only need 9 conservatives to vote no confidence for a majority. I could see some of the hard brexiters sticking the knife in to get Boris or Rees-Mogg leading the party to the general election.

In reality, I doubt she will get all of Lib Dems as a few of them will vote to keep her because they know they will lose their seats in a GE. Same goes for some labour candidates in hard Brexit areas.
 
Unless they called for her to resign after it as well (i.e. 19th Century Man), it's pretty easy to handwave it away as "we are a democratic party and the party decided".

I don't have much faith in the British public but I'm fairly confident the majority will be able to see through that diaphanous bullshit.
 
Unless they called for her to resign after it as well (i.e. 19th Century Man), it's pretty easy to handwave it away as "we are a democratic party and the party decided".

Pretty much. If you dislike the Tories then they've done much fecking worse in the past couple of years than moan about her leaders and then sneakily back her again when it's advantageous for them to do so.
 
I think there’s a chance she will lose the vote.

With all of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP voting no confidence, they only need 9 conservatives to vote no confidence for a majority. I could see some of the hard brexiters sticking the knife in to get Boris or Rees-Mogg leading the party to the general election.

In reality, I doubt she will get all of Lib Dems as a few of them will vote to keep her because they know they will lose their seats in a GE. Same goes for some labour candidates in hard Brexit areas.

If that's the case then you'd imagine it'll cancel out the relatively small number of Tories who'll probably go against her in the end.
 
Anyone else concerned that if it went to a 2nd referendum between no deal and remain, no deal would win?

I feel like people in the UK are genuinely that stupid.
 
If there's anyone here who is behind Corbyn's brexit policy, that's the impossible have cake and eat it one, would they mind explaining how this vote will help him achieve it please?
 
Anyone else concerned that if it went to a 2nd referendum between no deal and remain, no deal would win?

I feel like people in the UK are genuinely that stupid.

Oh literally millions of people are that stupid/ignorant. I'm not concerned remain would lose under those two options though.
 
Anyone else concerned that if it went to a 2nd referendum between no deal and remain, no deal would win?

I feel like people in the UK are genuinely that stupid.

Absolutely.

With that said, I think the Remain campaign would be twice as organised and twice as strong this time. It would have financial backing of a huge number of massive companies who are set to lose a lot if Brexit goes ahead.

On top of that, the dark money of Arron Banks and co won't have the same flow into the leave campaigns and there is no Cambridge Analytica targetting the finer margins.

Remain have cast iron evidence of the negative economic impact of leabing the EU. No £350m on a bus stuff, literally hundreds of billions we are set to lose.
 
I consider myself to be quite politically savvy but I’m completely lost. What the hell is fecking happening!!!!
 
I consider myself to be quite politically savvy but I’m completely lost. What the hell is fecking happening!!!!
Ditto. Is this just weak ass posturing from Corbyn or is this significant? Didn’t realise you had the vote of confidence in individual/government option, the latter seemingly being more symbolic rather than meaningful.
 
Stuff, my man. Stuff is happening.

So...

Corbyns tactic is...?

Call no confidence is Theresa May...hope it gets rejected.

Call no confidence in government...lose

So no chance of a general election to break parliamentary deadlock

WA gets voted down....

Labour table second referendum which conservative remainers will back

Extend a50 for a vote.
 
Anyone else concerned that if it went to a 2nd referendum between no deal and remain, no deal would win?

I feel like people in the UK are genuinely that stupid.

I think remain is more likely to gain votes from those who were on the fence last time and didn’t really get the significance of the vote. The we want control daily mail feckers will not change their vote at all... whether they can add to their voter base is questionable as they’re getting older and dying off with each passing year.
 
Just saw Rees-Mogg on the beeb saying he was a loyal conservative :lol:
 
So...

Corbyns tactic is...?

Call no confidence is Theresa May...hope it gets rejected.

Call no confidence in government...lose

So no chance of a general election to break parliamentary deadlock

WA gets voted down....

Labour table second referendum which conservative remainers will back

Extend a50 for a vote.
Corbyn's plan is thus;

No backbenchers are going to vote against the government as a whole. By making the no-confidence vote only about Theresa May, there was more chance that the Brexiteers would vote against her.

After losing a no-confidence vote, Theresa May "would probably"* have to step down anyway.

If she stepped down, The Conservatives would have to pick a new leader.

Alternatively, she might stay on but have to listen to Labour more.


*Definitely not clear.
 
I don't think they expected anything out of the censure motion as any Tories voting for it would lose the whip. Purely a mechanism to keep up the headlines so it doesn't go quiet.

I don't agree with the above posts, delaying it a month is not an acceptable date for the vote.
 
so these feckers get to have yet another vote??? I'm getting jealous.
 
I think there’s a chance she will lose the vote.

With all of Labour, Lib Dems and SNP voting no confidence, they only need 9 conservatives to vote no confidence for a majority. I could see some of the hard brexiters sticking the knife in to get Boris or Rees-Mogg leading the party to the general election.

In reality, I doubt she will get all of Lib Dems as a few of them will vote to keep her because they know they will lose their seats in a GE. Same goes for some labour candidates in hard Brexit areas.
I cant see any Conservative MPs siding with Labour.
 
I don't think they expected anything out of the censure motion as any Tories voting for it would lose the whip. Purely a mechanism to keep up the headlines so it doesn't go quiet.

I don't agree with the above posts, delaying it a month is not an acceptable date for the vote.

They've got until the 21st to have the vote as far as I'm aware.
May has obviously been playing for time and kicking the can down the road since day one and Corbyn's been asleep since way before the referendum.

The country has been sleepwalking all this time.
 
Assuming they understand what a no deal Brexit means - apparently everything is going to be fine.

True. Media have a lot to answer for in all honesty. It's very depressing just how many people believe a no deal exit means everything stays the same.