Totally agree.
This sort of attitude is why so many people around the world hate us. We rampaged around taking what we wanted, when we wanted it and now can't even be bothered to take any responsibility for past actions.
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Totally agree.
This sort of attitude is why so many people around the world hate us. We rampaged around taking what we wanted, when we wanted it and now can't even be bothered to take any responsibility for past actions.
And for the first time in my life I can totally understand why some people choose not to vote. What a waste of time.
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So watching here on television another delay until October. Suspect won’t be the last one.
So is it gonna be June or Halloween?
Can’t resist laughing the anger from the Telegraph journalist asking May if she shouldn’t be apologising for not leaving in 48 hours. 
Everyone is lying here. I suspect they don’t want the United Kingdom to leave in Brussels.
Everyone is lying here. I suspect they don’t want the United Kingdom to leave in Brussels.
The best Brexit is no Brexit.Can’t resist laughing the anger from the Telegraph journalist asking May if she shouldn’t be apologising for not leaving in 48 hours.
Everyone is lying here. I suspect they don’t want the United Kingdom to leave in Brussels.
Macron was the deciding factor - if not for him, the rest of the leaders would have given a much longer extension. Mind you, I doubt if it would have made a difference - if this isn't sorted by October 31, it won't be sorted six months after that, either.
October just about gives us time to hold a referendum or a GE..
It's pretty farcical, anyone really believe they won't just extend forever if no other choice?
They should have just stuck to the 29th of March and forced the UK to make a decision on something.
In terms of that decision, nothing changed since December, we still have the same awful options, the "deal", no deal or no Brexit.
They should have just stuck to the 29th of March and forced the UK to make a decision on something.
In terms of that decision, nothing changed since December, we still have the same awful options, the "deal", no deal or no Brexit.
I asked the above a few days ago. It still seems plausible to me.
I don't like conspiracy theories, but the truth is that we have no idea what they discuss and decide behind closed doors. And all this voting by the British Parliament and these extensions by the EU...
To complete this farce, Farage should be elected to the European Parliament! 
We've exhausted a lot of options and we've removed the immediate time pressure. We barely have enough time for a referendum.
I can see why the EU leaders weren't pleased with Maceon's little performance. I think the EU wanted to allow for ample time to have a referendum or for the whole to collapse. The longer this goes on the more we see the damage of Brexit, businesses will continue to leave or downsize because the uncertainty has been extended.
Perhaps if the government finally decides on a 2nd ref, we can ask for a further extension, we'd certainly have more justification than the previous two times. I just hope Macron winds his neck in.
EU should have just said extension to 31st October and if you havent agreed the deal by then you go with no deal.
Its time to end this nonsense one way or the other.
Its time to end this nonsense one way or the other.
The problem is that a no deal wouldn't end this nonsense at all. The UK would then look to negotiate a trade deal with the EU, the EU would insist on terms like the backstop still being present and then we're back at the same point once more, except everyone is suffering financially and relationships between the various parties involved have broken down. A no deal doesn't make the problem go away, it just makes it harder to solve.
I've thought and said the same but in truth our political parties and politicians could never agree or keep such a secret. Perhaps.
The cnuts been the member of the European Parliament for South East England since 1999To complete this farce, Farage should be elected to the European Parliament!
I doubt it very much. Its simple realpolitik from the EU. A hard Brexit is a disaster for them also so they want to avoid it at all costs, especially given the general global economic outlook at the moment. The big dog in the EU, Germany, is especially feeling the pinch so there's zero surprise at the outcome. It will get extended again in October from the EU side too if it best serves the political and economic interests of the EU (it highly likely will), you can be sure of that.
How long will the extension after October be?
EU: We cannot renegotiate the withdrawal agreement
David Davis: Let's renegotiate the withdrawal agreement
This happened today by the way. Is there a more obstinate group of people than Brexiters?
David Davis: Let's renegotiate the withdrawal agreement
This happened today by the way. Is there a more obstinate group of people than Brexiters?
Probably to March like your mate Barnacle wanted, maybe even further for a second referendum or GE. The extension might well even see us all off.
I think we might get a confirmatory referendum on the "deal". So we can accept leaving on those terms now or remain. Can't see support in parliament for much else.
I would prefer if they just admitted the options are abysmal and revoked A50 without even bothering with further votes. Without some pressure on the government that won't happen though.
I was surprised by the initial extension without them attaching really strict terms to it, I think that was a mistake by the EU27, just letting it drag on and on.
I would prefer if they just admitted the options are abysmal and revoked A50 without even bothering with further votes. Without some pressure on the government that won't happen though.
I was surprised by the initial extension without them attaching really strict terms to it, I think that was a mistake by the EU27, just letting it drag on and on.
I'm not sure we've exhausted even one option. Removing the time pressure has opened them all up again.
We will know after the October 27th "emergency" summit.
It seems they're terrified of no deal and don't want to appear as an aggressor. Merkel's comments appeared as an olive branch in this regard. Putting on a hard time limit and appearing to bully the UK through conditions (in the eyes of a great faction of the British electorate) would be playing into the ERG's hands and make a hard Brexit much more likely, it seems to me anyway.
This would be sensible. Stick some stuff in the Political Declaration about workers rights and consumer/environmental standards to appease Labour and then bolt on a confirmatory vote - this deal or remain. I reckon that would get through the commons.
The ERG will bang on about it being a "false choice", but the EU aren't reopening the WA.
It would unreasonable to hold the sins of the British Empires past against modern Brits. But the ignorance displayed by some is frustrating. I can forgive a lack of knowledge on other parts of the world, we can't all be informed on every troubled area of the world. But Northern Ireland is part of the same country these people live in and yet so many of them seem to know or care little about it.
What are the odds for parliament agreeing on something which is feasible:
1. before June
2. before November
3. Ever.
1. before June
2. before November
3. Ever.
Slim and none.
Agreeing on disagreeing is likely
They know they just don't care. Most of them have been around long enough to recall the bombings or the news around it.
Sadly with a lot of those who voted leave that will be the case. Anyone from their 30's-40's onwards should have had an idea of the implications.
I am sick of this farce.
Six more months of pantomime . Just what we need.
Theresa May said
"Nothings agreed until everything is agreed"
"No deal is better than a bad deal"
"We will leave the EU on the 29th March 2019 at 11.oopm"
"I will not delay Brexit longer than Aril 12th"
"I will not delay Brexit longer than 30th June"
"I will not delay Brexit beyond 31st Oct"
"I will not delay Brexit beyond …(fill in your own dates)
The EU said
"We cannot negotiate on Free trade until a WA is ratified by the UK"
I think Theresa talks too much!!
"Nothings agreed until everything is agreed"
"No deal is better than a bad deal"
"We will leave the EU on the 29th March 2019 at 11.oopm"
"I will not delay Brexit longer than Aril 12th"
"I will not delay Brexit longer than 30th June"
"I will not delay Brexit beyond 31st Oct"
"I will not delay Brexit beyond …(fill in your own dates)
The EU said
"We cannot negotiate on Free trade until a WA is ratified by the UK"
I think Theresa talks too much!!
That is true, however this time I think public opinion in the rest of the UK will force any UK government (of whatever persuasion) to let the Irish sort it out themselves. I cannot see that there will be any massive public support for deploying British troops on the island of Ireland... ever again I should think!
What exactly is a waste of time? Assuming you're a leave voter you voted for parliament to take us towards leaving the EU as they see fit and that's the process underway. You didn't vote for a timeframe or for them to do so with reckless haste
The greatest bit of spin since Warne bowled Gatting.
She's being an idiot. It was a compromise between the nations that want us to feck off ASAP, and those that want us to stay in the EU. She should know that anyway.
Reckless haste? They've had nigh-on 3 years to sort it out!
3 years to find a plan that works for everyone and all I'm hearing is no no no no no no no, even at the other softer decent alternatives.
Shocking stuff.
I hear the word 'compromise' bandied about 20 times a day but nobody, brexiteer or remainer, is moving from their original view. All talk, no action. The state of it all.