Yeah. I don't think anyone was stupid enough to blatantly claim anyone would score more (lately) . I have seen some say it in a covert manner like "someone else would score the goals" when people say "where would we be without his goals"
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Yeah. I don't think anyone was stupid enough to blatantly claim anyone would score more (lately) . I have seen some say it in a covert manner like "someone else would score the goals" when people say "where would we be without his goals"
Erm, just go back to the posts after Watford. Some were even saying "any half decent striker would have scored 25 already in this side cause we create so many chances".
Please go back and quote them here so we can all have a good laugh
I can't be bothered looking on my phone but as I was locked in a debate with wr8 the other day you can defo have this one.
Diego Costa would be on 30 for us now apparentely. (This was after Zlatan's hat-trick)
TBF, quoting a Rooney fan who was annoyed that Zlatan took the place of Rooney is not the best indicator.
The Berties are wishing him all sorts of evil over on Bluemoon. Our 35 year old striker bagging 24 goals already, playing most games without any injury when they reckoned he wouldn't get to half of the season and their young wonderkid only lasting a couple of weeks before getting crocked for the rest of the season is a very bitter pill to swallow indeed.
Ibrahimovic has been nothing short of sensational for United. To come to the Premier League at this stage of his career amidst a 6-way tussle and still be at the top is not to be under-estimated, especially with all the talk of him only having played in the French league for years before.
If only we'd got him and Jose after Fergie left.
Ibrahimovic has been nothing short of sensational for United. To come to the Premier League at this stage of his career amidst a 6-way tussle and still be at the top is not to be under-estimated, especially with all the talk of him only having played in the French league for years before.
If only we'd got him and Jose after Fergie left.
And to think that Rooney, our record goalscorer, in his peak years only twice scored more than 30 (both 34) per season and didn't have any other season with comparable numbers! By the way I'm not criticizing Rooney's level/achievements here but rather purely admiring Zlatan's greatness.
If Utd won the 'Liverpool treble' and becomes the top scorer in the league, he might walk away but hopefully he will have unfinished business with the title.
Unfortunately Utd have become a one man team and he will need to be replaced if he leaves otherwise Utd are screwed.
He was amazing in the league. Should've won us the tie with Madrid though and generally wasn't as clinical outside the PL
Remember some people were saying he would flop, wouldn't be able to handle the PL and was too old and past it? 
Hopefully he blasts one in the final next week.
Hopefully he blasts one in the final next week.
No way Zlatan walks after this season, he'll want a shot at the title. Besides, as I understand it it's United who have the option to extend for a second year and not the player. We'd need to accept a bid for him.
Great logic. The leagues top scorer who plays for us should be replaced by players who have scored less because they would score more...
Talk about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory
Do we really create more clear cut chances than the teams in the top 4?
Had pegged Ibrahimović for 25-ish goals across all competitions, but 24 goals already (with atleast 18 matches to play) is quite remarkable - especially when only 2 of those goals were off penalties, and he could easily end up in the neighborhood of 35 across all competitions. To put that into context, only 5 players have scored atleast 30 goals in a season for United since 1970:
McClair - 30
van Nistelrooy - 36, 44, 30
Ronaldo - 42
Rooney - 34, 34
van Persie - 30
And going off that list, even fewer have scored atleast 35: van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo (add Law - 46 in '64 and 39 in '65 for the all time list). That's rarefied company.
McClair - 30
van Nistelrooy - 36, 44, 30
Ronaldo - 42
Rooney - 34, 34
van Persie - 30
And going off that list, even fewer have scored atleast 35: van Nistelrooy and Ronaldo (add Law - 46 in '64 and 39 in '65 for the all time list). That's rarefied company.
We really have an unbelievable player on our hands. Silly how much difference his sheer presence on the pitch makes.
Great logic. The leagues top scorer who plays for us should be replaced by players who have scored less because they would score more...
Talk about snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory
Do we really create more clear cut chances than the teams in the top 4?
Don't watch the others but we really do create a lot of chances especially in these home games against rubbish teams that we somehow manage not to win.
Another game another goal for Zlatan. Hope he can keep this up and we should be good for Top 4.
I don't agree at all, certainly not that Zlatan has been much better.
He's already scored more goals than Rooney has in every other season, bar those two. And - like you say - only 2 pens. He's a phenomenon, he really is.
thought rooney only had one 30 plus season?
Our results this season would be so shite if it weren't for him.
I think he can push for 40. Believe he's comfortably below his expected goals based on his chances right now. If he regresses to the mean and carries on as is, he'll get there.
I'm not sure it's that achievement we should be highlighting. Aside from those two seasons Rooney's goal output has always been just decent (I'm putting consistency of figures to one side).
Generally I have big expectations of today's strikers. They're up top on their own, they don't have another striker chasing the same goals like Shearer or Cole did. So the top guys should be scoring a boat load.
However he certainly knows where to be to get the goals. Takes years of experience I think get that skill.
24 goals in 36 is a goal ratio of 0.66. So if he keeps that up over the 18 games, he should score another 12 or so goals. Which would give him 36. Obviously football doesn't quite work like that, but even if he only gets half of that it'd still give him 30, which is fantastic for any player, let alone a 35 year old.
Edit: I forgot to mention that's only based on it being 18 games, and hopefully we'll have a few more than that.
I think Ibra and Rooney are similar in that they both like to drop deep and create as well as score. There's much more to their game than goals. Which is why Rooney's always been rated much higher than, say, Jermaine Defoe. To be so prolific while not playing like a goal poacher is seriously impressive.
I know people like to say Messi and Ronaldo will go down as the GOAT but for me Ibra is more worthy of that accolade as he has played for a lot of different clubs and won with all of them, or almost all if he hasn't won with all. That for me is something more worthy of praise than a player spending his life with one club and another who spent his winning with just 2.
In which case Anelka must surely belong in the GOAT discussion as well ?
All true but I do think Ibra is an out and out striker for us. I'd imagine his heat map is similar to Defoe's.
Somebody will prove me wrong now.
Anelka has 216 goals in 665, Ibra has 416 in 713, almost double with not many more games. Ibra has shown consistency in different leagues, that's what makes him so great.
You may laugh at this, but many fans on this forum will completely believe in it.
Only a few days/weeks ago, many wanted Ibra on the bench - he's our top scorer...so let's bench him.
Similarly, 2 years ago when we got Victor Valdes, some wanted DDG to be "rested". Our best player (POTY) - put him on the bench and play a player who has been injured for several months and was let go for free by his previous club.
Some people just don't use logic and when you ask these people to explain their thinking, they go quiet.
You say only a few days ago many posters wanted Ibra dropped. You get this was just to give him a rest right? Not because of form.
We qualify for the CL this season and we win it next year just as he retires after the final. Fitting end to a glorious career
Na, there were plenty of people wanting him dropped, or claiming they wish he hadn't signed to allow either Rashford or Martial to play in the number 9.
I'll never understand why
You're talking about during the summer or earlier in the seasln I think.
The poster I questioned reckoned there were calls for him to be dropped just a few days ago.
It was peak caf. Two kids with everything to prove being our main goal getters. Like Aguero being sold to promote Ihenacho. Or Costa being let go to develop Batshuyai. We not bringing in Ibra for Rashford is completely the same.
I'm not talking with the benefit of hindsight neither. Why people fell for the arrogant "can he do it in the EPL though", or "what about developing our academy talent (like as if Fergie ever did it in recent years in the striker position)" I'll never understand.
Rashford is an impact sub and Martial has a lot to prove. I have high hopes for both in the future, but boy was their current standing in the game overrated on here.
We qualify for the CL this season and we win it next year just as he retires after the final. Fitting end to a glorious career
I'd cry of joy if that happened. Would suffer a heart attack and a hemhorrage if he scores the winner in injury time.
There's no reason Zlatan would want to leave Manchester United if we make Champions League qualification.
He's best buddies with Mourinho, he's adored by the fans, he is bossing the premier league and he will want to win the Premier League and have a shot at The Champions league one last time with Jose.
If he doesn't stay, it's because the club decide not to extend...which considering his goal return would be complete madness.
He's best buddies with Mourinho, he's adored by the fans, he is bossing the premier league and he will want to win the Premier League and have a shot at The Champions league one last time with Jose.
If he doesn't stay, it's because the club decide not to extend...which considering his goal return would be complete madness.
No, as crazy as it sounds, I am also taking about a week or two ago.
Man, all these fake news keep appearing everywhere about my country. We are not having any problems! Foreign media seems to think so. Our people and our own media think not. We are being used for fabricated stories to serve political goals, both in Russia and U.S., among other countries.
Anyway, back on topic: Zlatan is definitely not in his prime, but he's still delivering. I've noticed especially his shooting strength seems to have dissipated. He's still scoring as usual though and I think he's adapted to the league, team and coach pretty quickly, but that may be due to his massive experience. The man IS a beast! Swedish football is pretty much split into three categories: The time before Zlatan, the time with Zlatan, and the time after Zlatan.
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