Thanks, likewise.What a pleasure, and indeed a novelty these days on this forum to disagree with someone .. have a conversation about it, without the words "fanboy" or "hater" bandied about.
Thanks, likewise.What a pleasure, and indeed a novelty these days on this forum to disagree with someone .. have a conversation about it, without the words "fanboy" or "hater" bandied about.
Had no idea Drogba scored so few goals, but just like in Ibra's case he brings so many other things with his physicality. Just shows how important it is to have goals coming from other positions as well. And Drogba also played as a lone striker I think (excluding the time when Mourinho tried to accomodate Sheva).Sure, I've done a list (just the league), it took a while - don't know how many seasons back you want but I've done 8 seasons and here goes:
Total shots (TS) Shots on target (SoT) Goals (G)
Costa:
16/17: TS: 75 - SoT: 34 - G: 17
15/16: TS: 28 - SoT: 28 - G: 12
14/15: TS: 76 - SoT: 37 - G: 20
13/14: TS: 108 - SoT: 54 - G: 27
12/13: TS: 50 - SoT: 23 - G: 10
11/12: TS: 45 - SoT: 21 - G: 10
10/11: TS: 27 - SoT: 14 - G: 6
09/10: TS: 73 - SoT: 27 - G: 8
Lewandowski:
16/17: TS: 89 - SoT: 35 - G: 19
15/16: TS: 152 - SoT: 74 - G: 30
14/15: TS: 105 - SoT: 42 - G: 17
13/14: TS: 117 - SoT: 60 - G: 20
12/13: TS: 98 - SoT: 53 - G: 24
11/12: TS: 119 - SoT: 55 - G: 22
10/11: TS: 80 - SoT: 29 - G: 8
Couldn't find anything for 09/10, anyway Polish League, so maybe not a good comparison.
Aguero:
16/17: TS: 85 - SoT: 36 - G: 12
15/16: TS: 119 - SoT: 52 - G: 24
14/15: TS: 148 - SoT: 62 - G: 26
13/14: TS: 86 - SoT: 43 - G: 17
12/13: TS: 86 - SoT: 36 - G: 12
11/12: TS: 130 - SoT: 52 - G: 23
10/11: TS: 125 - SoT: 55 - G: 20
09/10: TS: 86 - SoT: 41 - G: 12
Suarez:
16/17: TS: 79 - SoT: 36 - G: 20
15/16: TS: 137 - SoT: 70 - G: 40
14/15: TS: 75 - SoT: 36 - G: 16
13/14: TS: 181 - SoT: 81 - G: 31
12/13: TS: 187 - SoT: 72 - G: 23
11/12: TS: 128 - SoT: 48 - G: 11
10/11: TS: 55 - SoT: 23 - G: 4 Half a season.
09/10 is the Dutch League, maybe not a good comparison.
To be fair, if we're going to be picky then we should also compare Ibra with players that have the similar phyisque, i.e. Andy Carroll. Got a bit dizzy, hopefully haven't written down anything wrong.
Edit: Don't know if it's important now, but thought I'd put in Ibra's 8 seasons as well if you want to compare:
Ibrahimovic:
16/17: TS: 109 - SoT: 43 - G: 15
15/16: TS: 155 - SoT: 81 - G: 38
14/15: TS: 92 - SoT: 52 - G: 19
13/14: TS: 161 - SoT: 73 - G: 26
12/13: TS: 157 - SoT: 69 - G: 30
11/12: TS: 141 - SoT: 67 - G: 28
10/11: TS: 116 - SoT: 55 - G: 14
09/10: TS: 100, SoT: 44 - G: 16
Don't know if this will be interesting but thought I'd put in Didier Drogba's Chelsea season's to compare with Ibrahimovic, since I think he's the closest one to him, "style-wise".
Drogba:
11/12: TS: 65 - SoT: 21 - G: 5
10/11: TS: 150 - SoT: 51 - G: 11
09/10: TS: 178 - SoT: 67 - G: 29
08/09: TS: 58 - SoT: 17 - G: 5
07/08: TS: 58 - SoT: 29 - G: 8
06/07: TS: 111 - SoT: 46 - G: 20
05/06: TS: 65 - SoT: 35 - G: 12
04/05: TS: 64 - SoT: 32 - G: 10
Yes, was a bit surprised as well. This is why I wanted to compare him with Ibra too, he's the closest one to Ibra if you look at what they contribute with, physique and style of play. Not exactly the same, but that's because Ibra's very unique.Had no idea Drogba scored so few goals, but just like in Ibra's case he brings so many other things with his physicality. Just shows how important it is to have goals coming from other positions as well. And Drogba also played as a lone striker I think (excluding the time when Mourinho tried to accomodate Sheva).
And strikers often miss goals. You're talking smack.As you said, defenders often score own goals, is that because it's easier to clear the ball? No because it wouldn't make sense.
Had no idea Drogba scored so few goals, but just like in Ibra's case he brings so many other things with his physicality. Just shows how important it is to have goals coming from other positions as well. And Drogba also played as a lone striker I think (excluding the time when Mourinho tried to accomodate Sheva).
You literally said why do you think so many own goals are scored hahaAnd strikers often miss goals. You're talking smack.
No, it's because it's hard to control the ball and put it in the exact direction you want. Defenders don't score more own goals than they clear, but they do score a number of own goals from such situations. Not because it's easier to score, but because it's difficult to direct the ball. I don't know how else you need this explained to you but it's really not that hard to understand. Anyway this is too old of a topic and I really don't care to talk about it anymore.You literally said why do you think so many own goals are scored haha
Which means becauses its harder to clear the ball, that's your own opinion
Because it's too hard to direct away from goal, to hard to control away from goal.No, it's because it's hard to control the ball and put it in the exact direction you want. Defenders don't score more own goals than they clear, but they do score a number of own goals from such situations. Not because it's easier to score, but because it's difficult to direct the ball. I don't know how else you need this explained to you but it's really not that hard to understand. Anyway this is too old of a topic and I really don't care to talk about it anymore.
Shite again
Except the assist he didn't do much
Am I wrong though? He didn't do anything of note after the assist. Not his fault entirely either.Fecking hell. Some people.
Thankless task today but did very well.
Am I wrong though? He didn't do anything of note after the assist. Not his fault entirely either.
Anyone got a gif of the goal? Missed the game due to work
Am I wrong though? He didn't do anything of note after the assist. Not his fault entirely either.
Fecking hell. Some people.
Thankless task today but did very well. Caused them loads of problems and his assist was top class.
He worked his socks off. That was pretty much a prime Rooney performance, and I mean prime not as a sarcastic comment, but in fact the way Rooney used to play at his best. Hustle the defenses, working his socks off and pulling a perfect assist out of his hat.
@GifLord posted this in the Match Day-thread:Anyone got a gif of the goal? Missed the game due to work
You actually go to work when United play?
Much to learn, you still have.