There’s no other way around it. If you hold on to a player who is injury prone for too long nobody would dare buy them. we did that for Shaw for sure although his international form (euro cup final goal)
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I don't think managers base their transfer decisions on caf polls. I'm saying that Mount wasn't the "bizarre signing" that the poster I quoted claims it to be. He also wasn't the least bit injury-prone at Chelsea, having played 50+ games in three of his four seasons there. He also had the following personal honours:
Chelsea Academy Player of the Year: 2016–17
UEFA European Under-19 Championship Golden Player: 2017
Eredivisie Talent of the Month: January 2018
Vitesse Player of the Year: 2017–18
Eredivisie Team of the Year: 2017–18
Chelsea Player of the Year: 2020–21, 2021–22
UEFA Champions League Squad of the Season: 2020–21
Premier League Academy Graduate of the Year: 2020–21
So yes, it is absolutely revisionist and irrational to call it a bizarre transfer that never made sense. He was one of the PL's best players in his age range. People can pretend all they want that they knew he would be crap all along, but that's nonsense. It's simply the pattern that very nearly all our signings follow: great at their previous club, then comes to United and becomes shit and/or constantly injured.
He’s a terrible signing because of his fee, contract situation and the fact that he plays in the same position as our captain who plays almost every game.
I like Mount when he was at Chelsea and rated him highly, but unless we were planning to move on from Bruno, he wasn’t the right signing at that time when we needed a midfielder of a different profile more urgently.
I'm just going off what you said:
I really don't want to keep repeating myself but some on here seem to love revising facts and sentiment surrounding fan opinion on this signing. This was always a head-scratcher of a transfer for at least half of us. A player of Kovacic's profile was what the majority preferred and if we really wanted a 10, we'd rather have signed Maddison. He was also mediocre for Chelsea that season. I watched them closely because I was actively betting against them.
Edit: Here's his old transfer thread. I just glanced through the 1st few pages and I'd say more than half didn't want him. https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mason-mount-confirmed.475677/
Time to get rid and cut our losses , he will never be fit for a sustained length of time.
He was a dreadful signing, if you like him great, personally I would not give a hoot if he was never seen in a United shirt again.
He was a dreadful signing, if you like him great, personally I would not give a hoot if he was never seen in a United shirt again.
Mediocre player on a supersrar wages with an iconic shirt number but never available. Nothing makes sense in this signing. Murtough or Ten Hag should have been catapulted out of OT just for making this stupid signing that ordinary football fans saw from a loooong distance.
I expect he'll be injured every transfer window, just like Shaw and Phil Jones, so we'll never be able to sell.
Off course a large portion of the fanbase did not want him. I watched him almost every week as I watched football with Chelsea supporting friends, I was never impressed, to make things worse, they did not believe we were paying 55m to buy him, they were dancing of happiness to get rid because they were going to use the money to buy Lavia.
There is no need to discuss the logic of the signing. He is here, earns what the contract says and we will not be able to sell him.
It is a shame as he clearly is one of the few players Amorim would love to use for his system in the long run. Most others he would probably exchange in case it was possible.
It is a shame as he clearly is one of the few players Amorim would love to use for his system in the long run. Most others he would probably exchange in case it was possible.
What are these magical qualities that everyone is keep telling us about? The only quality I am impressed with is persuasivness, his ability to convice the club to give him the number 7 with 250k a week.
I don't think Shaw has been injured every transfer window but then again no club would want to sell the best player in his position in the league anyway.
Our new manager whom some of us are really hoping will get us back to the top really likes Mount and yet half the fanbase seem to take delight whenever he gets injured???
Not his fault he is injured but he knows how to pull the heart strings saying with cheesy crap about always with you and always be by your side like some gf who is sending you corny lines they saw on IG.
Every time he gets injured he sends these messages out. I'm sure he is gutted he can't play but take some responsibility. if he didn't swindle the club into giving him on the no 7 shirt and being paid premium wages after we had already forked out 55 million for him I would be more upset for him.
For such a run of the mile player jumping from 80k to bartering to get himself a 250 to 300k contract for us, it all seems so contrived to avoid backlash for being one of the clubs most unneeded and poor planned out transfer. He must have known while at chelsea his body was breaking down since i'm sure he was missing a fair portion of games through injury so did he need to be given ridiculous wages and no 7 in order to be convinced to join if he loves the club so much? Not buying the sob story this time
Every time he gets injured he sends these messages out. I'm sure he is gutted he can't play but take some responsibility. if he didn't swindle the club into giving him on the no 7 shirt and being paid premium wages after we had already forked out 55 million for him I would be more upset for him.
For such a run of the mile player jumping from 80k to bartering to get himself a 250 to 300k contract for us, it all seems so contrived to avoid backlash for being one of the clubs most unneeded and poor planned out transfer. He must have known while at chelsea his body was breaking down since i'm sure he was missing a fair portion of games through injury so did he need to be given ridiculous wages and no 7 in order to be convinced to join if he loves the club so much? Not buying the sob story this time
Bruno wrote that
They all do it..don't they?
What do you expect them to say..."I am earning an obscene amount of money and I get paid that whether I am injured or playing shite and you lot will watch us play regardless"!
Don't read or listen to the garbage.
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On this transfer plenty were doubting it at the time. This one is definitely not a revisionist scenario.
Sorry for editing a good post, but surely all United supporters want and hope that
You have to wonder sometimes?
And to be honest you really should not edit posts as it does slightly alter the context of it and it should be left in its entirety so it can be debated and not cherry picked.
We need to stop giving out 5 year contracts to players and make the wages heavily incentivized on appearances. If players don’t like it, then that’s fine. They can find another club willing to risk it.
People watched him for England and saw he never impressed. Also most of his assists for Chelsea were from set pieces.
Was never the player some made him to be, despite all the accolades.
Mason Mount certainly was NOT a "great signing at the time" for United. Many of us were scratching our heads why he was needed but we put our trust in ETH and assumed he had a deeper understanding of how Mount could fit into our system.
As it turned out, in the few games he played for us, ETH had not much of a clue how to fit him into the team
I see the latest reports today are that he will be likely out for months with this new injury , another write off season.
He will always be the worst transfer we have made business wise because we paid 60 million to have the privilege of him coming one year early, only to have him out for nearly the whole season. We could have had him for free a year later and not have to pay his injury bills.
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Rumours he’s out until March….wow
March?! I was expecting January or something.
He’s perfect to be one of the No.10s but he’s seemingly as durable as wet tissue paper. Him and Shaw are having a competition to see whose body completely breaks down first.
He’s perfect to be one of the No.10s but he’s seemingly as durable as wet tissue paper. Him and Shaw are having a competition to see whose body completely breaks down first.
If he’s out until March, is there much point in him coming back again this season at all? Spend the extra time making sure fully recovered and healthy for the start of pre-season and never know, maybe he’ll resemble a footballer again next season
Ten Hag was an absolute blight on this club. It can’t be overstated how much damage he did through his squad building.
Out until March? Dear lord...
The bigger problem is that there is no way we can sell him due to his high wages (bloody £250,000 per week) and his constant injuries. And his contract is until June 2028...
The bigger problem is that there is no way we can sell him due to his high wages (bloody £250,000 per week) and his constant injuries. And his contract is until June 2028...
Anything over 8 weeks brings us into March and we already know he will be out for “several weeks” (according to Amorin) so this isn’t exactly a huge surprise. Although devastating for Mount, I’m sure.
By now the smartest thing the club could do would be to investigate a way to get rid of him during summer. He is
English and has still some potential. No logical reason for us to have a player we cannot really trust. Hi might actually even do better at a lower club if he does not have this much pressure to impress and play 110% to avoid injuries
English and has still some potential. No logical reason for us to have a player we cannot really trust. Hi might actually even do better at a lower club if he does not have this much pressure to impress and play 110% to avoid injuries
Any idea what type of injury it is? Are these recurrent injuries the same, or is it a case of different muscles giving in every time?
Even Hargreaves managed one season relatively injury free.
I don't think we've ever signed anyone who basically spent his first 2 years here injured.
All time disaster signing. Worse than Sanchez, Sancho , Antony , name anyone you want.
I don't think we've ever signed anyone who basically spent his first 2 years here injured.
All time disaster signing. Worse than Sanchez, Sancho , Antony , name anyone you want.
Bring in a replacement in the summer. We don't need to wait if he ever comes good, we need to players who improve us. If he ever comes good and can beat out the competition for a starting spot, good. If not he moves on to another club, we need to stop hoping some injury prone player will come eventually good for us.
The man managed to replace deadwood with something actually worse then deadwood.
Agreed. Murtough and co should equally take the share of the blame if not more for giving ETH carte blanche. Staggering amounts of money wasted on so many average players (Antony, Mount, Hojilund).
Should Mount be looking to maybe see private doctors not associated with United at this point? I know he had an injury toward the end of his time at Chelsea but to be injured so often here for a player his age isn’t normal.
He would be playing in Bruno's absence but won't be because he is perpetually injured. Liability.
Kinell, out til March?!
I always thought he's a nothing signing but not in this manner.
250kpw! Who is dolling out this kind of contract?
I always thought he's a nothing signing but not in this manner.
250kpw! Who is dolling out this kind of contract?
Well put.
In all seriousness, part of being a top player is being available. These recurring muscle injuries are no good for us. I just don’t know who would sign him given his atrocious injury record.