There's no incentive, it just puts all the risk at the player. Getting injured happens on the job, no player in his right mind and worth his salt would shoulder that risk
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 13
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 2
If the club hires a manager who doesn’t think you fit in his system, you lose money and playing time? They’ll be queuing to sign that contract.
Pay as you play contracts only work if the player has no literal options.
Mount would have had options, it was up to the risk assessors to decide if he was worth a punt. Clearly they saw something we didn't. Paid ridiculous money and paid a ridiculous contract. The light at the end of the tunnel doesn't seem to coming into view any time soon.
Mount would have had options, it was up to the risk assessors to decide if he was worth a punt. Clearly they saw something we didn't. Paid ridiculous money and paid a ridiculous contract. The light at the end of the tunnel doesn't seem to coming into view any time soon.
Most players will have bonuses for winning trophies or qualifying for the CL, individual bonuses are not always conducive for a good team though, for example, a player has a bonus for scoring a goal is likely to be temped to try and score rather than pass to someone in a better position, it's a team/squad game so incentives need to be based on the team rather than an individual to have the best effect
A signing that highlights how terrible we are in the transfer market. We needed a midfielder last year and we went for Mount who isn’t a midfielder. Sometimes I feel people calling the shots are clueless at our club. Giving him #7 make it worse 
No all our players have incentivised contracts as they made a big push to bring the ‘base’ salaries down to £200k max after the madness of the Sanchez fallout. This was confirmed with the example of Antony being paid an estimated £70k a week because he wasn’t playing and therefore club was doing very little and therefore was missing every add on possible. All the websites you go to look at wages like sportrac etc. are just scrapers, they take info from all online sources to then show an average but because of how salaries are reported in football I.e. especially with United the media will pile everything in to make as big a headline making number as possible, it ends up being very misleading.
It’s interesting that his injuries forced ETH to abandon his preferred approach and would almost certainly been an important part of Amorim’s ideal lineup as well. Definitely looked better suited to being Amorim’s vision of a 10 than anyone else who tried the role. Plus he would allow Amad to play at wingback.
The injuries obviously make him an awful signing but he probably would have been an important player without them. A real pity all round.
The injuries obviously make him an awful signing but he probably would have been an important player without them. A real pity all round.
When’s he back?
Around March at the earliest.
Madness. Even us collection of plebs on here knew this was a bad buy, but for it to turn out this bad ..
Wrap him in bubble wrap until the summer and sell him for whatever we can. Or if he stays at the very least take the #7 off it.
Just checked his stats as I was curious. He has only completed 90min for us once - in the Carabao Cup against Newcastle. Almost unbelievable
We need to hope he can fully recover as he really would be ideal in this system. We might not get him back to his best but he’d be way better than the others who are useless in these positions.
Match is a long way and he will be so out of form it’s prob more likely we will hardly see him this season.
Match is a long way and he will be so out of form it’s prob more likely we will hardly see him this season.
Every day I come on here I'm reminded of how bad our signings have been, and I can never quite believe it
What level injury does he actually have? Grade 2 strain on his thigh?
No way we can sell this guy. £250.000 per week, constantly injured for 2 years (he also missed the last 3 months of his last season in Chelsea due a pelvic injury) and has a contract until June 2028. Even when he plays except his work rate he doesn't offer that much. His Man Utd career so far:
32 games (14 started in the starting XI) - 1 goal and 1 assist.
According to transfer before his latest injury he was already out for 169 days because of previous injuries since he joined Man Utd. Now add to the mix his injury on 16th December until March atleast according to media, so that's additional 75 days atleast. So in total 244 days that he was injured as a Man Utd player and this is only his second season here.
Terrible transfer, it will be so hard to get rid of him.
32 games (14 started in the starting XI) - 1 goal and 1 assist.
According to transfer before his latest injury he was already out for 169 days because of previous injuries since he joined Man Utd. Now add to the mix his injury on 16th December until March atleast according to media, so that's additional 75 days atleast. So in total 244 days that he was injured as a Man Utd player and this is only his second season here.
Terrible transfer, it will be so hard to get rid of him.
Scandalous transfer, we could have got Maddison half the price better player and no injury prone record, but we had that fraud manager buy so many duds for hundreds of millions, I can never forgive him for how much he's held the club back. Easily the worst post fergie manager and worse ever built united team
Every negative thing that can be said about Mount has been written so I won't pile on here. My take is that the man should not see another minute of competitive action this season and devote himself to a full recovery, even if that means training with the squad starting in April and focusing completely on being fully fit for summer training and friendlies. There's no sense at all in shoehorning him into matchday squads even if he's declared fit in April.
He should be sold. We cant have another Luke Shaw at 250k pw.
The issue is that there’s no replication for matches and especially an accumulation of matches. Ease him back by all means, but I’m not sure an extra three months of not playing football does his body any good.
The fact that he’s had thigh, hamstring and calf injuries makes it a tricky thing to deal with.
It doesn't help the fact he is one of these players who runs around like a mad man to overcompensate for his weaknesses, so he will drive his hamstrings and thighs into the ground, which is probably one reason why hes now broken down and injury prone
We're not selling him for anything if he's injured. It's in our best interest to nurse him carefully to full fitness and keep him fit if at all possible.
In fairness, we have tried that with Shaw. It doesn’t work out when you have so many injuries in such a short span of time. Has like 5-10 games in 2 years? I don’t trust him to put his injury woes behind him and the club should move on as well imo.
Mount didn't have an "injury prone record" before United. He had a pelvic injury that kept him out from February until May, which happened to be right before we signed him. Other than that, his only notable injury ever was in 2018/19 when he was a teenager at Derby.
While it's entirely fair to be disappointed in his time at United, let's not invent alternate realities to make it sound like the manager was insane to sign him because it was obvious that it would turn out this way. That's just daft. He was by no means an injury-prone player. In all his years at Chelsea, he had one single injury that was more than an inconsequential niggle, and that was an impact injury caused by a collision. Those are not taken into account when judging a player's propensity for injuries, for reasons that are hopefully obvious.
Incidentally, here's James Maddison's injury record. You know, the player you think we should have signed instead of the supposedly injury-plagued Mount. Note that it has a page 2. And they're all knee, ankle and hip injuries--you know, the kind that tend to say a lot about how injury-prone a player is, as opposed to collision injuries which are just bad luck.
Reminds me of the discussions about a potential Osimhen transfer a couple of years back, where some people complained about his injury record. I looked it up--he'd had two noteworthy injuries in his career: one where a player slammed into him and dislocated his shoulder, and one where he fractured his eye socket after someone headbutted him. How people can consider a player like that "injury-prone" is beyond me. Don't know whether it's stupidity or just being too lazy to look things up, but it must be one or the other.
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I hear you loud and clear but I also worry about team chemistry, as it appears we are building something now, when thinking about when to bring Mount back into regular first team action. It's true we don't have a lot of depth in midfield but I would much rather see what Collyer and Gore have in their locker as we wind down the season -- unless we're somehow back into the race for a top 4/5 spot -- than bring back a player like Mount who is so injury prone that if we do bring him back in April we might be doing more harm than good to him and the squad.
I would rather give his minutes to Coyller. This fella have no business staying at the club, worst signing since Djimba Djimba.
Cheers Geoff.
What makes you believe that?
Quite impressive that you mention 2 players, and manage to spell both names wrong.
We've currently got the £80 million Antony fully fit and not getting a kick because the manager like everyone else thinks he's rubbish.
Yes Mount can't stay fit, but at least when he is the manager clearly rates him and sees him as a key player.
Collyer isn't remotely similar to Mount as a player.
Three players you mean, with the Djemba twins.
Arguing with another member
Ah I was wondering if you'd come in here spouting your shite from the Rashford thread, and surprise surprise here you are!
Is he back yet?
I still have faith, but he really needs a clear 3mo. to see how he can work in this system.
I still have faith, but he really needs a clear 3mo. to see how he can work in this system.
I never understand why people post stuff like this?
Your opinion isn’t wrong in theory but it doesn’t matter - he can’t be sold at any price to anyone. Nobody will take him and pay him 250k p/w.
There are only three paths
- he never recovers and his career is over at the end of this contract
- he recovers and we sell for peanuts, subsidize wages, or leaves for free
- he recovers, plays well, and we renew at lower wages on a short deal
That’s it. Let’s stop pretending we can just sell him now to anyone - it’s a non-starter
So good they misnamed him twice!
Well done spelling police, English is my 4th language.
So he plays well and we can't sell him? We have to renew on lower wages?
I think you've missed a 4th option.
Anyway - I like Mount, would love to see him stay fit.
Good to see you running through the forum following me around. Just like the only thing Mason Mount is good at, running around the pitch with no other benefits, the pressing genius.
Mount didn't have an "injury prone record" before United. He had a pelvic injury that kept him out from February until May, which happened to be right before we signed him. Other than that, his only notable injury ever was in 2018/19 when he was a teenager at Derby.
While it's entirely fair to be disappointed in his time at United, let's not invent alternate realities to make it sound like the manager was insane to sign him because it was obvious that it would turn out this way. That's just daft. He was by no means an injury-prone player. In all his years at Chelsea, he had one single injury that was more than an inconsequential niggle, and that was an impact injury caused by a collision. Those are not taken into account when judging a player's propensity for injuries, for reasons that are hopefully obvious.
Incidentally, here's James Maddison's injury record. You know, the player you think we should have signed instead of the supposedly injury-plagued Mount. Note that it has a page 2. And they're all knee, ankle and hip injuries--you know, the kind that tend to say a lot about how injury-prone a player is, as opposed to collision injuries which are just bad luck.
Reminds me of the discussions about a potential Osimhen transfer a couple of years back, where some people complained about his injury record. I looked it up--he'd had two noteworthy injuries in his career: one where a player slammed into him and dislocated his shoulder, and one where he fractured his eye socket after someone headbutted him. How people can consider a player like that "injury-prone" is beyond me. Don't know whether it's stupidity or just being too lazy to look things up, but it must be one or the other.
That is an alarming injury record even before his injuries at united. We should have stayed put and never got near him. It was a stupid signing in a position we did not need because our captain plays there (a player that plays every game single game).