Mason Greenwood, Marseille Footballer | Read the thread rules in the OP before posting
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Didn't mention a single word about supporting him. We have just revisited this every thread about him. You can no longer even see anything about the games.
If you wanna see what he's doing for Marseille it's not hard to google it is it?
You really need to take a look at yourself.
i only come here for unbiased views on greenwood and isreal.
Lovely post.
I'm not saying he doesn't have a pt and we re obviously talking a player with United ties to make this a more sensitive topic. But in some ways lets be consistent then and close discussion for any other player with a certain history. We can probably come up with a substantial list.
I remember my boss in my old role (finamcial services, highly regulated) used to say: "If you're unsure about whether you should do or say something, ask yourself does it pass the newspaper test."
So imagine the same principle on here. Before you post something, imagine if it ended up published in the paper for all your family, friends and loved ones to see. I'd like to see how different this thread would be if everyone applied the same principle.
There are other football boards around if you want to discuss scumbag deviants hiding out as footballers
You should ask rather what is the sense of insisting it must be dwelt on every second of every minute of every day his initial or name pops up in a discussion.
Why should people forget what he has done?
For what it's worth, I agree with Wibble
No, I think I'll decide what I ask. And if you answer then I'll answer your question. That's the way conversation works in my book.
As I said earlier. If a Figo could play at the Nou Camp with bad blood his move caused. Any opposing side with him as their key star will not give a flying fig about the sensibilities of 70,000 at OT. Nor anywhere else in.U.K. Frankly as a United fan I'm just glad he is no longer our problem as a club nor fan base.
This naivety people have the he will just fade into oblivion or be restricted due to their sensibilities is wishful thinking. He was an elite level talent at the sport before this started and that hasn't changed. To the chagrin of many he will reach the top of the sport. Most against it should just hope he doesn't make a huge success of it ala Kobe Bryant did post his scandal
I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you're going on about.
United did the only right thing here, our and his loss but ultimately it was the right decision. Hope he does well and we cash in.
These last few pages are just filled with whataboutery and people downplaying what he did to his partner.
The rules are clear in the first post so not sure why people keep arguing against them.
Don't like them? Go post on a Marseille forum or twitter or something. Not difficult.
Do want to post about him? Post about his football related activity.
The mods have made their decision and people need to respect the rules whether they agree with them or not.
The rules are clear in the first post so not sure why people keep arguing against them.
Don't like them? Go post on a Marseille forum or twitter or something. Not difficult.
Do want to post about him? Post about his football related activity.
The mods have made their decision and people need to respect the rules whether they agree with them or not.
Figo playing for Real vs Barca and Greenwood coming back to OT are 2 entirely different scenarios.
Sorry, just realised I missed a lot of that because you can't use the quote function.
In short I disagree that the decision the club made has no bearing. The decision the club made was because he was toxic. Redcafe are just as entitled to make the same call.
I'd say Figo would love to be compared to a sexual abuser.
It also applies to literally any other thread here.
I don't know whether it means the same thing, but I think I said I am not interested, as in, I don't take particular interest in what they do with their lives outside of their art, not that I don't care (there is a nuance in my mind which I'm not sure which words to use to make it clearer). Like the saying goes, "never meet your heroes", I realised that celebrities are usually particularly flawed human beings (according to my values) and any knowledge of their private lives generally tilted towards the disgusting. However, sometimes stuff still filters through to me, like the Greenwood stuff (I have never brought myself to listen to the audios for fear of what I will hear but the comments from those who have are sufficiently explicit). In this case, since he seems to be getting his life together, all I can wish for him is that he turns away from vile ways and becomes a better man. Until then, I still think he is an excellent footballer and I am curious and interested to see how he picks up his career from all this.
I didn't mean to mock anyone, apologies if it sounded that way. It is more of being bored at every other positive performance-related post being followed by a "but what he did", it feels to me sort of like a holier than thou attitude. As for not caring, see above.
In my (very personal and humble) opinion, it IS fine to admire Greenwood the footballer like it is to admire Cristiano Ronaldo or Michael Jackson the musician. My opinion may be vile to you but this thread exists because there are people who do not agree with you about this. I thought the rules in the OP were fine to keep a lid on discussions in the thread without repetitive discussions about his (past?) behaviour (I understand he may likely repeat, but since no new accusations have come up I choose to believe he hasn't).
The OP may even include the full story of what happened and why he is no more at United, lest anyone forgets, but this thread will always be a mess the way it is. I'm happy it's not my job to moderate this.
No. Don't make us keep saying the word Rape.
Did he actually do that? Genuine question, I don't know how it transpired other than there was no trial. I've had enough after hearing that audio.
You perhaps misunderstood me. We completly agree on that. Redcafe made the right call
I was speaking in general terms of how any given individual chooses to discuss the subject. What Redcafe for example chooses to do is based off what they value. Same as United the club. Whatever Red cafe chooses to do is their right. Folks are on THEIR platform. I fully support what they outlined in the opening page of this new thread.
I only take exception to those other om here who aren't redcafe thinking they should dicate to others how they should or should not speak on the matter. Then resorting to abuse or labels because their demands are not bowed to.
For example I might disagree with you that you'd prefer to talk of his scumbagry if he is ever brought up over any thing else about him. But I'm not about to about to label you this or that for it. Plus Id gladly defend your right to feel as you do.
I just find certain people on here who feel the need to label people "rape apologists" because they hold no interest in discussing the subject's scumbagry at every turn, utterly arsinine. Discussing the fact he has done well in a game or scored x goals for example has no relation to praising/excusing him being a rapist.
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You know exactly what was meant. Cut the whataboutry pretense.
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Mason who? I prefer to move on. He's not likely to ever play for the club again and neither would I want him to. What former players are doing at other clubs doesn't interest me. I'm only interested in the current crop we have.
Thats a YOU problem then
He was charged with attempted rape "only" so it's very unlikely he did. But he's still a vile scumbag so i think it's understandable if people don't always choose to make the distinction.
Or, just maybe people actually care? Seems like you haven't thought about that.
Not to mention those of us who have a deep connection with domestic abuse and whilst I'm personally not offended by people talking about how he is doing, or how good it is for that matter, I also think it's fully fair it continually gets highlighted what he did and has never taken accountability for.
oh the humanity!I agree he's a vile scumbag, but I disagree with the rest.
Not to mention the irony
They're all coming out now, emboldened by their favourite little rapist scoring a few goals in a farmers league.
Glad domestic abuse amuses you. Your posts in this thread are disgusting.
Fair. In a case like Antony's I'd agree with you, but when there's audio like Greenwood's then i think it's different.
It is. It's just that when I read that I thought I missed some terrible news.
There is a not unreasonable view that if she was prepared to record what she did then it indicates it had happened previously and on this occassion she was ready for it and therefore the balance of probabilities is that he had actually done the deed in the past.
"Supports: MK Dons". Frankly he should be perma'd just for that.
Absolutely what happened.
She had been taking photos of injuries and recording him, you don't do that on a whim.