There is a "Rashford clause" in every manager's contract
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There is a "Rashford clause" in every manager's contract
If there's a minimum appearance clause inserted in his contract then he will be played irrespective of the manager
There were persistent rumours that ETH got the job precisely because he promised that he will get the best out of Rashy
Honest to god, that's just an embarrassing thing to admit. I get people being a fan and hoping for the best, but you aren't seeing what 90% of United fans are seeing and what most outside fans, pundits and journalists are seeing, personally I wouldn't admit that. Not playing well is one thing, if you're not good you're not good, all you can do is try harder, but that's the kicker, he doesn't even try, he doesn't put any effort in. He literally insults everyone that paid a lot of money to watch him play, when he doesn't even have the decency to try in front of them or even go over clap at them. Then he leaves the game, park's his car wherever he likes, drives at whatever speed he likes, because he's better than the common man. Then goes on a bender in another country because he doesn't need to try any harder in training or prove himself to anyone. He's lazy, arrogant, entitled, elitist all qualities that don't tend to endear someone to others. Yet you can't figure out why people might not like him.
Honestly, the comments aren't grim enough, I think most of them are coming from frustrated fans that just want more from him. As a fanbase we should have moved past that a year or two ago, he should be hounded out of this club because he's stealing a wage and taking the piss out of all of us in the meantime. Personally, I find it frustrating and infuriating to watch someone who has been backed so much by the club and fans take it for granted and I would much rather we just move forward to a more healthy place where we don't continue to have this debate that seems to have been haunting the club for years now.
Personally, I am moving past it, I think these next couple months will be the last we will have to see him in the first team. If the club is serious about backing Amorim he'll be out of the team in no time and moved on next summer.
You didn’t think it through, did you? Just so eager to sound clever.There is a "Rashford clause" in every manager's contract
He ain't leaving mate. He's on a long contract and on a silly salary which no one will want to march
You think it’s “embarrassing” to criticise fans who use social media to personally attack an underperforming footballer, using a post where is expressing condolences to the family of a recently deceased elderly lady to do so?
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I’ve asked this before, but is there actually any real evidence of this ever happening, with any player, at United? The last time I asked I never got a response, so I’m interested to know. To me, it sounds like a completely absurd thing to happen, I find it very hard to believe.
(I’m talking specifically about this so called ‘minimum appearance’ clause, that I’ve heard a few posters reference in this thread)
The funniest aspect of that rumour, is many of the posters sharing this particular conspiracy theory, are the same people saying Rashford looks like he ‘would rather be anywhere else’ and is ‘completely disinterested’.
Why on earth would he request a clause which meant he had to spend more time doing something that he doesn’t want to do?
Why on earth would he request a clause which meant he had to spend more time doing something that he doesn’t want to do?
No, I said it was embarrassing to not have the self-awareness to realize your view is contrarian to almost everyone else. If you can't put aside your own feelings for a moment and understand why 90% of the fanbase seems to feel one way one a subject when you feel the opposite then yes, that is embarrassing.
I never said it was embarrassing to criticize those fans at all, it's embarrassing to not empathize with them. But go ahead, read my comments, distort them, apply your own logic, and twist what I said to try and make a lame joke at my expense, I will take it, unlike Rashford, words on the internet don't hurt me.
Honestly at this point, not understanding why others don't like Rashford is like believing in the flat earth, also embarassing.
If there's such clause then neither player nor the club would come out and say so. What we know is that we had lousy negotiators, that Rashy signed that contract from a position of strength and that he keeps playing regularly despite being underwhelming for most of the time.
I don't think that he wants to leave. Why would he? He is in his hometown, he's on a long term contract and on silly money + there's no real urgency for him to do anything really
Many underestimate how hard it is to remain motivated and good at a big club that has been struggling for years. Very few players are able to resist the complacency that usually sets in under such circumstances. That's why the likes of Gerrard and Robson are so adored by their respective fans. It's so easy to just be average and to pick your salary at the end of the month
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Dude. There’s a world of difference between thinking Rashford has been crap for ages and thinking it’s acceptable to remind him of this by tweeting at him on a condolences tweet.
The former is fine. I hold that exact opinion! The latter is, obviously, despicable. And calling that behaviour out isn’t even close to embarrassing.
This.
He was posting about the passing of a colleague.
Anything that isn't "she seemed like a lovely woman, RIP" is genuinely grim.
I said exactly the same thing the other day.
I didn’t say he wanted to leave. I said he gets slaughtered for looking like he doesn’t want to play matches, but also apparently asks for a clause in his contract that he has to play every game.
So there’s no evidence of it then. As I would have thought. Because it’s an absurd suggestion.
What a shocking performance from him, but something that is expected. He has been awful for a while, hardly takes players on, looks uninterested and intensity is no longer there. jogs. Plus his every second touch is heavy, gets physically bullied and goes down like a little bitch. Nothing about him is inspiring. Just a waste of time and space.
It's been year and a half since he officially signed the contract. Maybe more since the terms were agreed.
Even if such clause was agreed and exists, you don't think that people can change in the meantime?
Because Rashford from his goalscoring form under Ten Hag, and this Rashford are world apart. Not just in terms of goalscoring numbers, but desire, energy, body language, the whole demeanour.
Personally, I think it’s a conspiracy invented in the minds of angry football fans, with zero evidence to support it, and no previous such contracts existing at Manchester United ever.
I don't care what he does off the pitch, but anyone who thinks he is a player to take us forward is living in a la la land. He has no playing brains and certainly not enough quality to play for this club especially at 300K a week. He must be sold and get whatever money we can (I still think we can fetch 50m for him this year) and buy Gyokeres for 60-65m at a decent wage and it will be a net nil outcome.
Marcus is everything wrong with this club and I really hope I don't see him near the team next year.
Marcus is everything wrong with this club and I really hope I don't see him near the team next year.
The "prior" owners who only cared about making money off the brand from day one, put a massive PR campaign behind him.
Good player like Salah makes it different, consistently every season
Rashford is among top earner at this club and he rarely has a good form for more than 3 months. The criticism is justified.
Rashford is among top earner at this club and he rarely has a good form for more than 3 months. The criticism is justified.
I generally try to avoid player threads now where they’ve been poor because I’ll often say irrational things about the player.
However, I don’t even get angry with Rashford anymore because I don’t have any level of expectation from him. Expect little and you won’t be disappointed.
The truth is I’ve never felt he was as good as he was made out to be. This is not kicking a man while he’s down. I felt his general play even when he was scoring in his peak seasons was poor. He’s the type of player that rarely brings out the best in others around him. He is and always has been heavily reliant on his explosive pace and acceleration in order to thrive and the limited things he was good at. Unfortunately he’s lost both that explosiveness and pace which has left him with an even more limited skillset now.
You can see from his demeanour and body language, he doesn’t have the confidence in his own ability anymore let alone the fans or managers confidence. You often see him in situations where he would thrive previously, now being dominated and dismissed easily by defenders. I think it was the Ipswich game where a few occasions he was being beaten in a foot race against their CBs with relative ease.
You can tell he knows himself he doesn’t have what he used to have. It must frustrate him more than anyone else but he’s struggling to fix it as you can’t really make yourself faster or more dynamic like he used to be. He’s not the type of player who can adapt his game like Giggs did because Rashfords other attributes aren’t at the level which other players can offer.
He just needs to move on and find a challenge elsewhere.
However, I don’t even get angry with Rashford anymore because I don’t have any level of expectation from him. Expect little and you won’t be disappointed.
The truth is I’ve never felt he was as good as he was made out to be. This is not kicking a man while he’s down. I felt his general play even when he was scoring in his peak seasons was poor. He’s the type of player that rarely brings out the best in others around him. He is and always has been heavily reliant on his explosive pace and acceleration in order to thrive and the limited things he was good at. Unfortunately he’s lost both that explosiveness and pace which has left him with an even more limited skillset now.
You can see from his demeanour and body language, he doesn’t have the confidence in his own ability anymore let alone the fans or managers confidence. You often see him in situations where he would thrive previously, now being dominated and dismissed easily by defenders. I think it was the Ipswich game where a few occasions he was being beaten in a foot race against their CBs with relative ease.
You can tell he knows himself he doesn’t have what he used to have. It must frustrate him more than anyone else but he’s struggling to fix it as you can’t really make yourself faster or more dynamic like he used to be. He’s not the type of player who can adapt his game like Giggs did because Rashfords other attributes aren’t at the level which other players can offer.
He just needs to move on and find a challenge elsewhere.
What he didn't tell them is that once he has got the best out of Rashford for 0.75 season, he would become complete dogshit.
The player he reminds me most is Gareth Bale. A deteriorating career because of many injuries & slowly losing love for the game because he can only contribute less and less. Going to Golf instead of NBA.
The fans of Real Madrid & United are pretty similar - screaming in pure anger due to them craving success so predominately focusing on both physical & mental decline without paying much attention to why the player got their in the first place.
Bale was obviously the better player and scored important goals in finals which would temporarily put smile back on the success craving fans before them screaming anger once again after poor performances would return. We saw this with Rashford scoring 3 goals in Amorims first 2 games; goals temporarily holding back some hatred - but after one 2nd half performance - he is back to where he started and his physical & mental decline is back on the radio rather than really what got him there.
That's not really the point I am trying to make. A manager should be judged about the team's performance. It should be arguments like football style, team's progression that would lead to trophies and youth development. Having a conversation on a specific player is quite, well, very specific. Could it be the case that the club and the player are tied to the hip?
And for the record if that clause does exist then I don't blame Rashford for it. I can think of very few players who wouldn't exploit club's stupidity if given the opportunity and all of them had since retired.
We did give Bruno a salary increase + a contract extension in the summer simply because he came out with the Saudi 'offer' nonsense. In my opinion we should be more lethal and conservative when dealing with contracts. If there was really a Saudi offer and Bruno was interested in it then we should have accepted it. This rebuild will take years and Bruno will probably not be part of it. Then there was the ETH's contract extension mess which was based on 1 good game.
A- The times of legends like Scholes, Charlton and co is gone. Players are in it for the money, they have an army of agents who are hellbent to squeeze as much money out of someone's career as humanely possible. The same can be said about every senior person at the club (ex managers). How many players had been run to the ground simply because the manager couldn't afford losing a game or two? Rashford himself had been victim of that. He was persistently played through injury during Ole's era which might have ruined the guy. As the Godfather said "It's ain't personal Sonny, its simply business". Hence why we need people in place that make sure that the club's interest come ahead of the players and the manager.
B- Any information of a minimum appearance clause will never go out. Such reveal would go against both the player's and club's interests. All we can do is speculate based on what we're seeing. I find it strange that Rashford keeps being in the center of every manager's plan despite his performances had been so shit for so long. You may think otherwise and you'll entitled to your opinion just as I am entitled to mine.
C- Not every player is cut to play for Manchester United. Sometimes everyone think they are (player, club etc), then the player suffer a couple of injuries and his nature can change. Injuries are a real trauma for players. I remember Baggio saying that after certain games he had to be literally be helped to go inside his home because he was too hurt to just walk inside. Baggio fought through the pain while others might act differently.
We (clubs and fans) need to adapt to a world were our own employees would put their interest ahead of that of the club (ie in less political terms we need to grow up). Failure to do so will risk us lingering at 13th place while defending perennial underperforming players and injury prone players to the hilt because, they can grace us with their presence once in a while.
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I still have no idea why any of what you’ve written would make you believe players have minimum appearance clause in their contracts. Again, it’s just a conspiracy theory invented by fans based on nothing.
Oh I completely agree with you, if clause or informal arrangement was made about specific player, it shows how badly the club messed up trying to make Rashford the centre piece of their team. If it is true, then the glazers didn't learn from woodward's apparent missteps regarding forcing LVG to play Rooney towards the fag end of his career.
I do think INEOS understands that it is a team game, and how they allow the manager to handle rashford will be the crucial point. Because on the face of it, Rashford's (lack of) running is completely anti-thetical to the new manager's philosophy.
Can we change his profile picture at the top? He's not cracked a smile since 2018.
I think he should be binned as much as anyone.
But in all seriousness.
He just posted an RIP message to a lady that worked at Utd for 50+ years. But, you think it's ok to post shit comments at him about his football under that.
Would you go to the funeral and shout abuse at him there?
You asked two questions
a- why players in general would want to have minimum appearance clause in their contract
Simples. Players these days are brands. Sponsors pay huge money to be associated to players and they won't be happy if that player is rarely seen on the pitch. There's also performance bonuses given to players which will be activated only if the player in question plays.
b- why I believe Rashford have minimum appearance clause in his contract
Rashford is providing very little offensively and defensively. Most of the time it feels like we're playing with ten men. Yet successive managers keep putting him at the center of their game. That makes zero sense tactically and is of detriment strategically as it weakens the idea of meritocracy within the club
I am actually surprised that there are people in here who think that United would be smart enough to refuse a minimum appearance clause to Rashford at a time when he was scoring goals left right and center. I mean we gave Casemiro and Bastian ridiculously long contract/salary based on performances done at another club. We are known for making stupid deals.
I’ll say it one last time. There has never been any actual evidence whatsoever to support the ascertain that United have ever put a minimum appearance clause into a single players contract.
This may well be the most ridiculous post ever posted on Redcafe.
Do you seriously believe managers would potentially ruin their reputation by playing a player they don't want too? Or quite frankly would even take a job whereby a player has been forced upon you taking away your decision making?
Managers play Rashford because he is actually a decent player who, despite what majority of fans think, offers the team a lot.
Quite frankly I pity INEOS. The club is in debt, we are losing money, the infrastructure is a mess, the squad had all sort of issues (Sancho's scandal, Greenwood scandal, Rashy's Belfast scandal), there was no one within the football structure who understood football and there's so much deadwood on ridiculously long contracts that they can't get rid off.
And they'll never be because it would make all parties involved look stupid. However the proof is in the pudding mate and there's nothing that remotely justify why Rashford keeps being at the center of every manager's plan. The guy has been shit for months now. He produces very little offensively and nothing in terms of work rate. So either all our managers are idiots or else there's something more to it.
Apart from when he was dropped at varying points of his current contract.
If there's a minimum appearance clause inserted in his contract then they hardly have a choice.
And what exactly has Rashford offered in the past few months?
For the record I don't think Rashy is anywhere as shit as some portray him to be but he certainly doesn't deserve the gameplay he keeps getting. At this point he's getting on the nerves of our legends as well which does say something considering that he's a homegrown talent
For how many games?