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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 24
- Goals
- 7
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 3
I don’t even think Rashford is a ‘great’ player, but who do these conspiracy theorists believe the managers were having to start him over? Were they desperate to put one of our other players in, who also never score any goals?
You think it makes perfect sense to keep playing a player who jogs on the pitch for most of the time while I don't. Let's agree to disagree
Whether I think that or not isn’t relevant. I would never see a player getting picked when I disagreed and think ‘this must be contractual’.
Also, can you show me where I said he should be picked?
So we’ve established that Rashford has minimum appearances in his contract.
Next: how many high 5’s a game does Dalot have in his contract?
Next: how many high 5’s a game does Dalot have in his contract?
He has a high 5 bonus.
Bruno has a minimum trivela contract.
Also, Fred used to have a ‘take five long shots per game, and none of them can be on target’ clause.
Shaw has a maximum game contract.
It’s the only reasonable explanation.Shaw has a maximum game contract.
I think it's a myth.
Coaches have simply played Rashford because they believe there's no one better available. That's a club failing.
I think the days where players think they can put in little effort and still play most weeks are coming to an end.
This manager will not tolerate such things.
I still have hopes for Rashford, once it dawns on him what the manager wants every single week then maybe, just maybe he turns his performances around.
He can either be a part of the good times that are ahead for United or he can leave and watch it happen from another club.
This manager will not tolerate such things.
I still have hopes for Rashford, once it dawns on him what the manager wants every single week then maybe, just maybe he turns his performances around.
He can either be a part of the good times that are ahead for United or he can leave and watch it happen from another club.
Last year he was horrendous despite being played every week by the manager.
Like Shaw, we should do our best to offload him out and clear the dressing room.
Like Shaw, we should do our best to offload him out and clear the dressing room.
Football is probably the worst business to invest in. It basically consist of spending tens of millions on a group of people who then has to work together and outperform the rest. Anyone working in a business would tell you that people are the most volatile of assets. There's a million reasons why things can go wrong with people both individually and in terms of a team. Some of them can't even be explained. Take Baggio for example. He was an amazing talent and a great character. Yet he always struggled at a top club were he wasn't the center of attention. The irony is that Baggio is not even an extrovert. These days he lives in a farm somewhere as much away from football as humanely possible. But on the pitch he needed to feel constantly loved by everyone
Thus football manager's aren't stupid. They can (and most are) stubborn but they aren't stupid. Most of their controversial decisions while controversial in nature do make sense from their POV. Sometimes its down to politics ie a manager sanction a big name signing and he must make it work else he would be the one who loses his job. Other times its down to certain characteristics which are often ignored by the average fan but are highly rated by the manager. Fellaini and McT are classic example of that. They provided athleticism and height which might be frowned upon but still plays an important role in the game (Arsenal game is a great example of that). Then there's the player character that needs to be taken in consideration. A manager might not rate a certain player but if the guy turns to training everyday and he gives a hundred percent every single time then he must be given a shot.
Rashford frankly baffles me. There's zero reasons why he keeps getting regular football at all. He is not playing well and he doesn't work hard on the pitch which, at this level, is the bare minimum for an underperforming player to do. Rashford had lost the trust of most of the fans and at this point even club legends are starting to run out of excuses with him which speaks volumes considering how local talent is protected in the UK. Despite all that successive managers keep putting him at the very center of their project. As said before managers aren't stupid and I don't think its the case of collective ignorance here. So there must be something in it that justify why its happening.
There's not a minimum appearance clause, to think there is one is slightly unhinged and misguided.
People thought this with Rooney and it turned out to be false, very much the same with Rashford.
Ask yourself why a manager would put up with having a player forced upon them which could be at the detriment to their reputation ?
Rashford has been in bad form.
Managers cannot be stupid.
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Rashford has a guaranteed minimum number of games in his contract!
Managers cannot be stupid.
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Rashford has a guaranteed minimum number of games in his contract!
I think time has come to go separate ways. He is 27, doesn't have position in this system and he didn't become what we all think that he will be (top class player).
United does lack quality upfront and its an issue that has been developing for more then a decade. I remembering arguing in here at our decline in quality as people like Ronaldo, Scholes and Giggs were slowly being replaced by the likes of Young Fellaini and Valencia.
However every player we had put a shift in irrespective of how talented they were irrespective if he's Giggs, Scholes, Keane, Park, Fellaini or McT. These days Rashford doesn't even do that. Seriously most of the time it feels like we're playing with 10 men with him around.
He is still our top goalscorer in the league this season....faint praise admittedly but he is scoring goals more than any other striker so far...
Most managers think that they can perform wonders anywhere. That's the stubborn ultra competitive nature managers has embedded in them which allow them to survive and thrive in football. They also aware that if things go wrong they'll end up compensated either way. Mourinho is said to have earned £82m in severance payments alone
He's played far more games than any other striker.
Yep 2 goals against mighty Barnsley and Everton (one of whom was a clear own goal from Jarrad) and 1 goal against Ipswich and Southampton.
For the record I am not saying that its 100% the case. There might be something I am missing. All I am saying (and its evident in the first post were I said it) is that I sometimes wonder if there's a minimum appearance clause inserted in his contract as I genuinely can't understand why he keeps getting so many chances.
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Didn't realise Barnsley were in the premier League?! He has four in the league, more than anyone else, and is only one behind Garnacho overall.
He keeps getting the chances because he is actually a decent player. There's no defence to his shocking cameo the other day, but his performances have not been nearly as bad as some on here would have you believe.
The Everton one was nestling in the bottom corner.
If you paid a bit more attention to the performances of the alternative players in his position I’m sure the penny would drop.
They obviously wouldn’t. It’s just fan fiction. It’s hard to believe some people believe things like this.
As said before I don't think anyone upfront had covered themselves in glory. However they didn't jog on the pitch for most of the time either
My mistake 'about the Barnsley' thing.
I already said that I don't think he's as shit as many portray him to be. However I still believe he's getting more games then he deserves.
How many managers he is going to see sacked?
I thought Ten Hag would do this. Hope Amorin is able to follow through.
His decision making for a 27y old is still shocking at times, and to me it is also because his attitude is just not there. Mistakes happen but he is just too casual on the pitch.
Best to sell him and move on once and for all. We have been carrying him for so long now, every manager gave him plenty of chances, but he just fails to produce most times
Best to sell him and move on once and for all. We have been carrying him for so long now, every manager gave him plenty of chances, but he just fails to produce most times
He's a moments player, he will never be consistent - Been here 10 years and on his day he is brilliant but it's far and few between. On top of that his attitude is poor, regularly in the spotlight for going out clubbing, not clapping the fans, not pressuring and he is supposed to "Get" us more than a foreign player, I'm genuinely past it and think we need to move him on.
He’s built enough of a brand that I’m hoping the Saudis or Americans would be willing to cough up 50m for him.
Not a terrible player but the window to cash out is almost entirely closed.
Not a terrible player but the window to cash out is almost entirely closed.
Same, I thought TH dealt with the early things so well, with Ronaldo and Maguire captaincy and cases, but then after the Caraboa cup win, it seemed everything kinda fell apart (but we still finished top 4). Then everything kinda sucked except one cup run.
Rashford was good for that period where he seemed he would score every game in TH first season and I think when he was confident, he was scoring, and also working hard for the team as well. I remember seeing him track back to right back on a few occasions.
Rashford when he broke through was good because even if he wasnt scoring, he was trying things, running at people, and genuinely working for the team. I dont know where the point was, (maybe with his back issues), but it seemed like he was done. He seemed to be more than happy to just get the ball, stop and look to try a killer pass rather than pass and move. I dont know if he thought due to his back his pace is gone and felt less confident trying to take people on.
I do think we need to somehow move on from him this summer (although I thought that last summer as well and im guessing with new ownership this wasnt going to happen)
For the record I was in no way defending him getting abuse in that tweet, that is an absolute disgusting time to and place to go after him.
To be honest, I was skimming through the thread fast, my feelings and comments were brewing in my head, the comment I responded to was the last I read, I really just read the first half and responded to that, didn't even really notice the second line about it being in Kath's post, in fact I didn't even know about the Kath post at the time, and tbh, I am now rather embarrassed by the timing of my comment.
I used to use these types of boards a lot in the past, am relatively new to posting again for the first time in over a decade, and probably need to just sit back and observe more for a while.
Sadly he’s also built enough of a brand to stay here a long time yet. The club is far too sentimental in that regard. Rashford should be a must sell / move on this summer.
Lots of things at the club need a reset and imo none more urgently than the dressing room. We can talk about transfers and tactics till we're blue in the face, but if we want to look like a cohesive unit on the pitch we have to be ruthless as you said. Had Arsenal not taken that approach Arteta might be back to bringing Pep his morning cup of coffee.
It did? How? Circumstantial evidence is very much that there was a contractual clause until he became club top scorer. He got dropped rather quickly after that by Mourinho.
By whom and how?
His Cameo wasn't shocking. It was his normal. Show me anyone that was shocked by that.
I think its a case of each manager hoping he comes good and delivers for them. Rashy is a good player buried underneath baggage that unfortunately is the norm with some these days.
I still back him and hope he can gain and maintain some consistency.
I still back him and hope he can gain and maintain some consistency.
This isn't true.
Rooney was dropped from the starting XI in September 2016 after gameweek 5 when we lost to Watford, and City as well, prior to that. He never regained his place as a starter in the team after that, and only started 4 more league games until April, when the focus wasn't on the league anymore.
He also just played 5 minutes in the KO stage of the Europa League and was only used by Mourinho in the group stage games, and the two domestic cups.
He scored the record breaking goal vs Stoke City in January 2017, over 4 months after he was permanently dropped by Mourinho as a key player.