So as many as Rashford since April then?
10
Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 16
- Goals
- 4
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 2
So as many as Rashford since April then?
Guy stood at the side of me at the game went mental… “he was xxxxxxx at the side of you and he xxxxxxx beat you by xxxxxxx yards in 50, you xxxxxxx xxxxxx!”
I slowly edged away from him …
He did ok today. Didn't stink the joint out. I think this is the best we can expect from Marcus now.
Ran around a bit but then he let Gusto and Cucurella go a few times. Just stood there watching and let them overlap his full back. I don't know what he's thinking in those situations. "Nah, that's not my problem."
With the money he's on, there's no one coming in for him, so we're stuck with him for the next couple of seasons, unless we're willing to offload him at a knock down price.
If he's our "star" attacker for the next few seasons, we're going nowhere.
Ran around a bit but then he let Gusto and Cucurella go a few times. Just stood there watching and let them overlap his full back. I don't know what he's thinking in those situations. "Nah, that's not my problem."
With the money he's on, there's no one coming in for him, so we're stuck with him for the next couple of seasons, unless we're willing to offload him at a knock down price.
If he's our "star" attacker for the next few seasons, we're going nowhere.
He tracked back once in the second half and between Dalot and Rashford they won possession back. By as Neville alluded to , he wouldn’t have to run back 100 yards if he stopped running at the keeper and giving the left back a 30 yard head start.
We could transfer list him
I don’t think he has a natural place in Amorim’s system, at least from what I can gather so far. I can easily see him being relegated to bench warmer for the time being. I think his most likely role is as a back up or rotational striker. His qualities don’t lend themselves well to the AM position in Amorim’s preferred set up.
Of course, no one really knows how Amorim will set up yet - we only have clues - and no one knows how different players will react to the new approach and training methodology. But I don’t think the omens look good for Marcus.
Keep hearing this but we wouldn't even be able to sell for a small fee without a big payoff
Never seen a player so afraid of any physical duel - shits himself anytime a player goes to win a 50/50 ball. Such a shame we are shackled with him for the next 2 seasons.
Sounds delightful, but at the very basic level it's being willing to put in the effort and hard work going back. Tracking a runner is a very basic expectation, you don't have to follow them all the way, you can pass them on.
He was the same against Porto, just stood and watched the player walk by and whip in a cross. Moments like that will tell you more about a players mentality than missing a shot 6 yards or playing a bad cross. He either just doesn't think it's his part of his job or he just doesn't care enough.
Neville also said Utd don't know how to press and they won the ball back high 3 or 4 times in a row right after. He does some aimless running after the ball and so does Bruno. You can't really have a team based press that relies on triggers if you have idiots who just chase the ball like a collie when they feel like it.
It really wouldn't.
Rashford had a big chance at the end of the first half and fluffed it.
Sorry, my post was worded poorly, I meant Garnacho. Too many beers!
I hope he's given the freedom to drop Marcus if needed and there's no one in his ear telling him he has to start.
People need to realize that the biggest enemy to our success is MARCUS RASHFORD. Not him personally, sure he loves the club, but what he represents and enables with his attitude - No consequences for not working hard and caring about teamwork. And when people call you out you shrug and call them bullies.
Reality is Rashford is not an EPL level player. He doesn't press which ruins the efforts of the other 10 players on the pitch. He doesn't make runs off the ball to create space for his teammates, nor does he make runs to get on the ball. We'd almost be better off with 10 men.
If he physically is unable to do the above, I understand but don't start him every game. It's just idiotic decision making that clearly is not in the hands of our managers. Mourinho tried to put a stop to it but got kicked out. When you enable shitty culture you get bad performances. So all of you saying he was anything except utterly disgraceful in his team performance today are PART OF THE PROBLEM.
Neville then made the point if he'd have done his job right in the first place he wouldn't have had to have made that run back.
I would be amazed if there was any interference with selection. Completely flabbergasted. I am quite sure that Amorim will be able to pick the team he wants when he wants. If he picks Rashford, it’ll be because he thinks he’s got something important to offer. That’s my take and I don’t see any reason to suspect otherwise.
That’s quite obviously an insane post. Talking about players being enemies to success. Even more insane is calling him not an EPL level player. A player who scored 30 goals two years ago, is quite obviously EPL level.
I have no reason not to trust Amorim’s analysis and handling of the squad. His qualifications to do so vastly outweigh either of ours. Let’s see what he does before we start with the mouth frothing hyperbole.
It’s one thing to question Rashford’s work rate off the ball, or even his attitude - which frankly we actually know little about - it’s quite another to go down the route you have.
Does Rashford (and probably others) have a minimum playing time, or X number of starts clause in his contract. I've heard it speculated a lot.
Has there ever been any actual evidence to suggest this?
No. But that seems to be the only logical reason why he’s being continuously played despite being utter shit
Sounds far more like a conspiracy theory than a logical explanation.
I've heard it speculated and it's never been definitively refuted to my knowledge. With our club's record of handing out ridiculous contracts, it's certainly not beyond the bounds of possibility.
I'm hoping it's not the case because I don't want the new manager going into the role with one hand tied behind his back.
Why is he so limited in what he’s good at? He’s tall, fast, well-built. Even if he had lost some pace, by now he should be able to play centre-forward and hold the ball, deal well with the build up - without necessarily being the best in the world at it.
How embarrassing if Amorim comes in and can’t use Rashford there because he just wants to cut in from the wing and shoot
How embarrassing if Amorim comes in and can’t use Rashford there because he just wants to cut in from the wing and shoot
Who speculated, and who are you expecting to refute it? Has there ever been any actual evidence that United have included such a clause in a contract for any other player ever?
You've heard from several managers that they don't have autonomy to pick and manage players how they see fit. Probably because our "marketing" arm has too much input and influence. That's why Rashford gets to party and miss practice cause he's hungover and our coach simply can't say anything but "it's an internal matter" aka yeah can't really punish him cause these assholes owners don't care about football performance only financial.
Has a manager ever said they had the hierarchy picking the team? If so, I wasn’t aware of that.
Rashford was dropped after that incident, was he not? I know he was dropped after he was late one day.
Please provide the source/quote for this. I haven't heard this. If 'several' managers have said this then it should be easy for you to prove.
Personally, I think you're a bullshitter attempting to back up your conspiracy theory.
Prove me wrong.
It's accumulation of little injuries and playing through injuries. He's had periods where he was basically limping about on his ankle every game, he had the back issues, I'm sure he's been out a couple of times with hamstring issues too.
What's weird is he managed to have the best season of his career after worst of his injury issues, but has fallen off a cliff since then.
But he's definitely finished physically, there's no way he can be a great player without his speed.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that eerily similar to what happened to Antonio Valencia, to some extent?
I’m surprised he was substituted instead of Garnacho who was stinking out attacks up. Rashford had a decent game - not good but decent
You have google. Personally I think you're either paid to make this weird comment, are Marcus Rashford himself or closely related to him, or aren't really a United fan. Prove me wrong... You and the Rashford "fans" are the deluded ones if you think it's normal for a club thats focused on "winning it all" to pay a Forward who is OBJECTIVELY (THIS MEANS ITS A FACT NOT AN OPINION) worse than 80% of ALL other Wingers in the EPL over the last 5 years as a top 10 player in the league.
Mourinho and LVG have publically commented and warned managers about how United's focus on commercial vs football excellence makes it very hard for a manager to do their jobs and be successful. Jose publically called out Rashford/Martial/Shaw/Lingard as spoilt and lazy. That's not great company. Shaw's the best of the bunch and he's always hurt cause he doesn't take care of himself. Martial is in the Greek league and Lingard is in China? We need to get rid of the last 2 problem players that Jose warned us about if we want to have a shot at winning.
This is no different than what SAF had the balls to do clearing out the trash. That's what setup the culture that let him dominate for 26 years
Do you have a link to the managers making comments about having squad selections imposed on them? I’m interested to read them, now.
I suspect it was becanuse he went down the ski slope at OT into the advertising hoardings quite hard, he was limping for a bit after that, those slopes need sorting out, someone is going to get seriously hurt one of these days because of them
I wouldn't call that a big chance. Big chances are what Garnacho regularly squanders. Marcus actually caught that cross quite well anf was unlucky not to score as he hit the cross bar. He got one chance and very nearly took it, yet gets subbed every game so a 20yr old winger can stay on the pitch and basically prevent us from scoring more goals.
Rashford has 1 big chance missed in 10 PL games this seasons, Garnacho should have about 10 so far. Yet Garnacho completes 90mins every game, refuses to pass whenever we're in good attacking positions and shoots at will. Now if you're Rashford getting shifted to the RW so Garnacho can act like a superstar, how would you view that? I'm actually surprised that some fans are so critical of Rashford's body language because he's genuinely being sidelined in favor of a winger with barely 20 career goals and its costing the team goals and points.
He was alright.
This is why I think Amorim will try to use him as a striker in couple of games.
Garnacho has more pace than him as a winger & we are having our own less version of Vini Jnr & Mbappe. Either Rashford benefits from playing more centrally as an inverted forward or he becomes our striker because Hojlund turns out not to be good enough.
I know Rashford hasn't been good as a striker but neither has Hojlund & hopefully Amorim can coach them to be better players. Rashford broke through under Van Gaal as a striker but moved to an inverted winger because it suited his game & I just don't think he can play there anymore.
Garnacho is seven years younger than him. He should be developing and making mistakes as part of his learning curve.
The reason why the comparisons between the two are so easy to grope for is because Garnacho's profile is something so many fans still stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it applies to Rashford. We're three months into Garnacho's first season not as a teenager. Rashford turned 27 last week. He should be the finished article set to embark on a 4-5 year run at his peak, full aplomb. He's played over 300 first team games more than Garnacho.
The fact every time he plays poorly this thread is flooded with complaints about why we're not instead pilling in on someome who was literarily a teenager five minutes ago, is the symptom of the denial that Rashford is never, ever going to become a top player
Wasn't awful, has been improving over the last little while. The chance he missed at the end of the first half was a very difficult finish.
Never going to be a top, top player but hopefully the new coach can put enough structure around him to make him effective.
Never going to be a top, top player but hopefully the new coach can put enough structure around him to make him effective.
Really need the recruitment team to come up with a Mazraoui, cheap but very solid type signing for the right wing.
That way this guy will have to beat out Garnacho to get into the team.
Olise is who we really should have signed. Kudus will be a good option too.
That way this guy will have to beat out Garnacho to get into the team.
Olise is who we really should have signed. Kudus will be a good option too.
In his good days he is Defoe/Peter Crouch level player.
In his poor days he is championship level.
In a title contender he is only a bench/substitute player.
In his poor days he is championship level.
In a title contender he is only a bench/substitute player.
Definitely. Anything 30m +
Deranged, like so many others