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He will not push to leave. He is comfortable here and the club will not push him out.
I am truggling to even see a situation where the club is wiling to invest in players who can bench him.
 
A major problem recently is how supply from wide players has largely been reduced to scraps left over after it's been established they can't take the shot on themselves. If Giggs and Beckham decided that the only time they would supply one of our forward players with the ball was only after they were absolutely positive that there existed no feasible way of cutting inside and getting a shot away themselves, that team would have struggled with goals too.

I doubt Rashford has the discipline to revert to becoming predominantly a supplier rather than the star man of most attacks. As an aside to what he sees a his main role? Sure. But any manager than comes in and tries to utilise him differently, I don't think he'd respond well.
 
Footyislife said:
Delusions of the highest

Not really. An opinion would be me saying I think Jem doesn't know the definition of opinion. Facts would be Jem has shown in redcafe.net in 1/1 instances he doesn't understand what statistics are.

See the difference? My opinion would be Marcus Rashford is overrated and his body/work ethic doesn't along with a top EPL player. A fact would be that statistically Marcus Rashford is worse than 80% of wingers. There's no argument to be had here. It's not an opinion. JUST EMPERICAL fact. That's how the normal sensible people in the world live.
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And yet you never mentioned stats in your initial statement, and even if you had, we’ all know how misleading they can be. Take, for example, a comparison of Rashford and Gordon over the last 3 years: Rashford has far more goals and only a few less assists, and yet I know which player I’d take.
 
jem said:
And yet you never mentioned stats in your initial statement, and even if you had, we’ all know how misleading they can be. Take, for example, a comparison of Rashford and Gordon over the last 3 years: Rashford has far more goals and only a few less assists, and yet I know which player I’d take.
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Misread and misunderstood sorry
 
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Footyislife said:
Hold on let me just get the club insiders together to admit to their 600M fanbase that they don't really care about winning and only milking money. That should go well.
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You claimed in your post that I originally replied to, that Managers are overruled on team selection by their bosses. This seems like a baseless conspiracy theory to me. Myself, and a few others have asked you to provide a source for those claims.

Are you able to provide a source or not? Or is this something you've made up?
 
jem said:
And yet you never mentioned stats in your initial statement, and even if you had, we’ all know how misleading they can be. Take, for example, a comparison of Rashford and Gordon over the last 3 years: Rashford has far more goals and only a few less assists, and yet I know which player I’d take.
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It’s a silly example to make in the first place. It’s convenient enough to make it over 3 years to include the last period where Rashford was productive, but even then you’d have to factor in progression as to where they are in their careers and you’d clearly see one player progressing while the other one is showing clear signs of decline.

Either way it doesn’t really matter. New manager, new ideas, Rashford will get his chance and then he’ll have to prove that he can do what the new manager requires from him. Best case he does, worst case he doesn’t. If he doesn’t, it’s fairly clear he’s fast approaching the exit door under the new regime, as long periods of not performing won’t be tolerated.
 
Borussia Teeth said:
You claimed in your post that I originally replied to, that Managers are overruled on team selection by their bosses. This seems like a baseless conspiracy theory to me. Myself, and a few others have asked you to provide a source for those claims.

Are you able to provide a source or not? Or is this something you've made up?
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I'm checking this thread just to read the source, disappointing to say the least.
 
Borussia Teeth said:
You claimed in your post that I originally replied to, that Managers are overruled on team selection by their bosses. This seems like a baseless conspiracy theory to me. Myself, and a few others have asked you to provide a source for those claims.

Are you able to provide a source or not? Or is this something you've made up?
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What are you the inquisition leader of witch-hunt United? Get out of here with that attitude, this is a fan forum... It's like me demanding you prove to me that why for some weird reason extremely intelligent managers (far more than you or I) come here and continue to select statistically underperforming players. Are they stupid? Or do they just not have a choice? Because when managers do make that choice (Jose/Ralf), they are kicked out faster than they can say goodbye. Prove to me our managers have freedom and power over players.
 
Rashford is fkd. Does anyone have any hope that the Rashford of 2 seasons ago will return? Lets see if Amorim can get even half the player back but to me its beginning to look like a physical issue. Like his back issues affected his ability to turn or sprint consistently or something. It might not be a big issue but enough for him to loose 5/10 percent. Every big player usually has some physical reasons for their drop off. Torres for example had a series of injuries at Liverpool. No one loses form this badly for this long unless you have serious issues and if it is mental like depression or something then I think it would be blaringly obvious after a while and he would just keep dropping off like Lingard. The fact he makes it into the team and obviously trains well means its something else. I also notice that he just plays differently. He's 10 ft further back than his usual starting position and he rarely goes at defenders. Didnt this start with back issues? Am I remembering that right?
 
UpWithRivers said:
Rashford is fkd. Does anyone have any hope that the Rashford of 2 seasons ago will return? Lets see if Amorim can get even half the player back but to me its beginning to look like a physical issue. Like his back issues affected his ability to turn or sprint consistently or something. It might not be a big issue but enough for him to loose 5/10 percent. Every big player usually has some physical reasons for their drop off. Torres for example had a series of injuries at Liverpool. No one loses form this badly for this long unless you have serious issues and if it is mental like depression or something then I think it would be blaringly obvious after a while and he would just keep dropping off like Lingard. The fact he makes it into the team and obviously trains well means its something else. I also notice that he just plays differently. He's 10 ft further back than his usual starting position and he rarely goes at defenders. Didnt this start with back issues? Am I remembering that right?
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He looks slower than what he used to be, I dont think I have seen him outpace a FB from last season.
 
Footyislife said:
Yes those exist. Use this thing called Google if you care enough. Google LVG and Jose's comments. What am I your secretary?
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I googled it and couldn’t find any, hence I asked you, the person that actually made the claim.

It’s actually a trend I’m noticing more and more on this forum. People just flat out lying, and then getting aggravated when asked to evidence the claims.
 
roonster09 said:
I'm checking this thread just to read the source, disappointing to say the least.
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I know right. @Footyislife keeps telling everyone to check Google. I have checked Google and can't find a single story of any of our ex managers claiming that their bosses overruled them regarding team selection. He won't provide the source himself so he's quite clearly a fecking bullshitter
 
NotChatGPT said:
It’s a silly example to make in the first place. It’s convenient enough to make it over 3 years to include the last period where Rashford was productive, but even then you’d have to factor in progression as to where they are in their careers and you’d clearly see one player progressing while the other one is showing clear signs of decline.

Either way it doesn’t really matter. New manager, new ideas, Rashford will get his chance and then he’ll have to prove that he can do what the new manager requires from him. Best case he does, worst case he doesn’t. If he doesn’t, it’s fairly clear he’s fast approaching the exit door under the new regime, as long periods of not performing won’t be tolerated.
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I’m no Rashford fan, but to say that it’s a fact (rather than an opinion ) that he’s in the bottom 20% of epl wingers is just silly.
 
Footyislife said:
What are you the inquisition leader of witch-hunt United? Get out of here with that attitude, this is a fan forum... It's like me demanding you prove to me that why for some weird reason extremely intelligent managers (far more than you or I) come here and continue to select statistically underperforming players. Are they stupid? Or do they just not have a choice? Because when managers do make that choice (Jose/Ralf), they are kicked out faster than they can say goodbye. Prove to me our managers have freedom and power over players.
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I haven't posted any conspiracy theories so you wouldn't need to demand proof of anything that I post.
 
Posh Red said:
I googled it and couldn’t find any, hence I asked you, the person that actually made the claim.

It’s actually a trend I’m noticing more and more on this forum. People just flat out lying, and then getting aggravated when asked to evidence the claims.
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He won't provide a source because he doesn't have one
 
Footyislife said:
What are you the inquisition leader of witch-hunt United? Get out of here with that attitude, this is a fan forum... It's like me demanding you prove to me that why for some weird reason extremely intelligent managers (far more than you or I) come here and continue to select statistically underperforming players. Are they stupid? Or do they just not have a choice? Because when managers do make that choice (Jose/Ralf), they are kicked out faster than they can say goodbye. Prove to me our managers have freedom and power over players.
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I don't think you understand how burden of proof works.
 
jem said:
I’m no Rashford fan, but to say that it’s a fact (rather than an opinion ) that he’s in the bottom 20% of epl wingers is just silly.
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Statistically, if we're talking the past year and a half or more, he probably would be. Overall it's silly.
 
I hope he gets a good run in that inside left forward position. I personally feel he’s looked in good form this season and I don’t understand why we’ve started messing around with his position again.

He needs to learn to press though. He shouldn’t need to track back as much in this system and the converse of that has to be full commitment to the press. At 27, he needs to be fully committed to the new project. I really hope he builds a good bond with Amorim as I don’t feel he’s had that with a manager since Ole left.
 
I doubt he would want to move. Despite everything the whole 'love the club, boyhood fan, academy graduate' thing is quite an important cloak for him and a huge part off his off-field brand. He isn't going to have that at PSG or Everton or anywhere else. There also won't be that ingrained tolerance from fans for his nonsense.

We wouldn't sign a 27 year old from another club on big wages and argue he's right to phone in his performances because the manager has the audacity to play someone else in his favoured position. Nor would we excuse lack of physicality by speculating that it may be linked to a knock he picked up several years ago. Much less would we be fine with two years of garbage because he looks like he's 'fallen out of love with the game' and £200k a week is the least we can do to try and make him feel better.

That's all stuff he only gets as a Manchester United player. And I think he and those who surround him - for all their flaws - know it.
 
Rashford supporters are just comin
jem said:
And yet you never mentioned stats in your initial statement, and even if you had, we’ all know how misleading they can be. Take, for example, a comparison of Rashford and Gordon over the last 3 years: Rashford has far more goals and only a few less assists, and yet I know which player I’d take.
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https://fbref.com/en/players/a1d5bd30/Marcus-Rashford

Stats say he's worse than 80% of all wingers. You're welcome to click and draw whatever conclusion you'd like. This is mine and most normal people's conclusion but if Rashford is your Messiah and you love him, power to you it's a free world. I'll still call that logic terrible. But you can believe whatever you'd like

Borussia Teeth said:
I know right. @Footyislife keeps telling everyone to check Google. I have checked Google and can't find a single story of any of our ex managers claiming that their bosses overruled them regarding team selection. He won't provide the source himself so he's quite clearly a fecking bullshitter
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Stobzilla said:
I don't think you understand how burden of proof works.
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And I don't think you understand how a fan forum works. But we can't all have what we want sir.

The Rashford fanatics gang can type as many times as you want saying it's a conspiracy and deny it to your last breath any knowledge of commercial driven decision making at United, but thats the beauty of the internet. You are welcome to Google the damning comments that Ralf, LVG, and Jose have all made saying exactly that. Just because I don't want to play your secretary doesn't mean those comments aren't there. You're free to look it up, deny those claims, lie about them, draw different conclusions about them. I really don't care, but just in case it really upsets you know they are out there.
 
He has eaten 4 managers and spat them out post LvG who gave him his debut.

27 year old with 9 years in the premier league and zero comfort in holding the ball, bringing other players in the game, winning headers, passing, work ethic.

Absolute dross. It's unfair that he keeps staying at the club while the club has become a revolving door for managers.
 
Footyislife said:
Rashford supporters are just comin

https://fbref.com/en/players/a1d5bd30/Marcus-Rashford

Stats say he's worse than 80% of all wingers. You're welcome to click and draw whatever conclusion you'd like. This is mine and most normal people's conclusion but if Rashford is your Messiah and you love him, power to you it's a free world. I'll still call that logic terrible. But you can believe whatever you'd like



And I don't think you understand how a fan forum works. But we can't all have what we want sir.

The Rashford fanatics gang can type as many times as you want saying it's a conspiracy and deny it to your last breath any knowledge of commercial driven decision making at United, but thats the beauty of the internet. You are welcome to Google the damning comments that Ralf, LVG, and Jose have all made saying exactly that. Just because I don't want to play your secretary doesn't mean those comments aren't there. You're free to look it up, deny those claims, lie about them, draw different conclusions about them. I really don't care, but just in case it really upsets you know they are out there.
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So before I go and Google it, you are telling me unequivocally, that there are quotes out there that exist from each of those 3 people saying words to the effect of:

"Marcus Rashford is an important commercial asset to Manchester United and it is made sure that he plays in every game whilst he is fit"

There are quotes out there mentioning Rashford, by name and him playing all the time because of commercial interest?
 
Witchking said:
He has eaten 4 managers and spat them out post LvG who gave him his debut.

27 year old with 9 years in the premier league and zero comfort in holding the ball, bringing other players in the game, winning headers, passing, work ethic.

Absolute dross. It's unfair that he keeps staying at the club while the club has become a revolving door for managers.
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He was one of our best players under Ole, he barely played in the season he got sacked as he was recovering from injury. Ten Hag would’ve been sacked earlier if it wasn’t for Rashford’s form in his first season. This myth that he gets managers sacked needs to die.
 
He’s not in the bottom 20% but he’s definitely in the bottom half of starting left wingers in the league. Which clearly is nowhere near good enough for a club with our ambition.
 
Footyislife said:
Rashford supporters are just comin

https://fbref.com/en/players/a1d5bd30/Marcus-Rashford

Stats say he's worse than 80% of all wingers. You're welcome to click and draw whatever conclusion you'd like. This is mine and most normal people's conclusion but if Rashford is your Messiah and you love him, power to you it's a free world. I'll still call that logic terrible. But you can believe whatever you'd like
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I think I was pretty clear in saying I’m no fan of Rashford (feel free to check my posts in this thread if you need further proof.)
 
Footyislife said:
Rashford supporters are just comin

https://fbref.com/en/players/a1d5bd30/Marcus-Rashford

Stats say he's worse than 80% of all wingers. You're welcome to click and draw whatever conclusion you'd like. This is mine and most normal people's conclusion but if Rashford is your Messiah and you love him, power to you it's a free world. I'll still call that logic terrible. But you can believe whatever you'd like



And I don't think you understand how a fan forum works. But we can't all have what we want sir.

The Rashford fanatics gang can type as many times as you want saying it's a conspiracy and deny it to your last breath any knowledge of commercial driven decision making at United, but thats the beauty of the internet. You are welcome to Google the damning comments that Ralf, LVG, and Jose have all made saying exactly that. Just because I don't want to play your secretary doesn't mean those comments aren't there. You're free to look it up, deny those claims, lie about them, draw different conclusions about them. I really don't care, but just in case it really upsets you know they are out there.
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I’ve got no issue if Rashford gets moved on. You can criticise him without needing to make things up, you know.
 
jem said:
I think I was pretty clear in saying I’m no fan of Rashford (feel free to check my posts in this thread if you need further proof.)
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That part wasn't directed at you sorry. Was just replying with the fbref stats showing he's kinda 20th percentile or lower as a winger.
 
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