I think he'll outlast Amorim at the club, which is both depressing and funny at the same time. I never want to see him in a United shirt again though.
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Rashford has made his own big contributions for United during a prolonged spell of disarray for the club.
Among United players, only Rooney has scored more PL goals against top 6 opposition than Rashford has. He has more big game goals than the likes of Son, Lampard and De Bruyne. He's by far the best player and the most high profile player the club has produced since the class of 92
From what I’ve heard, Richarlison has done a lot of good in Brazil.
Well you should definitely only do what you feel comfortable doing, Walters
Are we keeping track of meaningless stats to prop up a player? We used to talk about titles when comparing players of our older teams now we talk about the fact that he scored against a big 6 side. More big game goals? What??Why the feck would I care about these stats? And since you brought up the other players, I would have all of them in my side before Rashford.
Most definitely
Goals against the top 6 is hilarious tbh we haven’t played in a game against any of them that actually mattered for years at this point
Be well!
Scoring against our biggest rivals is a meaningless stat? How is it any different to De Gea winning player of the season several times in a period where we never seriously challenged for titles?
Never mind the big game goals, Rashford is one of Uniteds top scorers of all time, in a poor era for the club. We can agree to disagree about his importance since his first team debut. I'm more than ok with him taking on a new challenge at another club. Rashford perhaps has let himself down, but the club has played it's own significant role
Cause De Gea actually won a title with us.
I'd argue that Rashford would have won titles under Sir Alex as well. In fact, plenty of players who were less effective than Rashford managed to win titles during Sir Alex’s reign.
Not during any season when he was named player of the year. De Gea being named player of the year that many times was not seen as a positive thing overall, because while he did his job keeping goals out, he should've been better protected by his teammates who he constantly bailed out during a time of mounting dysfunction.
De Gea got lucky Fergie stayed long enough for his sole PL title. Several less deserving players did. Schmiechel didn't earn as many individual accolades at United but he played for a functional team under one of the best managers of all time. Do De Gea's accolades make him better than Schmiechel for instance? Rashford deserves a proper send off.
I think you’re making my point for me. When he wasn’t better protected by teammates around him, he still performed. He was sometimes the best player on the pitch when his teammates were shit. Hence he was the player of the year 4 times. He didn’t turn sour when the chips were down. He continued to perform at a high level. Didnt he make FIFA team of the year once or twice during that time as well? Thats tell me he was world class meaning he is the top 2-3 players of his position.
Apart from that one 30 goal season when has Rashford being named player of the season? Never! Has he been named in the FIFA team of the year? Never! What does he do when the team around him needs him? He downs his tools and asks to leave the club.
By that logic did Ronaldo need a proper send off to? He has done more than this club than Rashford can ever dream off.
So you can't be a highly contributing squad member if you're not raking up player of the season awards and making team of the year? What of Rashfords numerous player of the month awards? Do those count? Again, Rashford is among United's highest goal scorers period, and he's achieved this during a very tumultuous time at the club and ongoing since his debut. Does that matter at all or are only the stats you cherry pick worthy of discussion?
That would be Paul Pogba.
He will be sold and all his E-warriors can join him at his next club
Its a little rich of you tell me that I am cherry picking stats when you’re one who brought in this whole he scored more goals against big 6 sides or he has more big game goals or whatever it was. At least I was looking at it from the overview perspective of consistency and looking at what players have done across seasons.
He has been in the team for 9 years now? For a player who you claim has done so well hasn’t even averaged 15 goals a season. Take Kane for example, he played in a far shittier team with a shittier squad yet every year he consistently scored and assisted goals. Thats what you do as a good player. You drag your teammates with you and lead by example. None of which Rashford has done consistently in his time here.
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Not really. In terms of Talent and impact on the game Pogba has done way more. Additionally, someone like Fletcher has contributed more to the club than a Rashford. In fact Fletcher, O'Shea, Brown all have contributed more to the club than Rashford.
If Rashford doesn't play again for the club and doesn't get a send off, the only person to blame is Rashford. Personally, I'm not bothered whether he gets a send off. As a player of his talent should be getting picked in the starting line up and the fact that he isn't (and has been routinely dropped multiple times throughout his career) says more about Rashford than the club.
Well Liverpool are on their way to another title and he has decided to sit and create drama. I am not sure he deserves anything other than a kick out from the club.
Yup, make the best of a bad situation
You’re missing a key indicator
* he wants to leave
And it’s been blindingly obvious from his body language for the last 2 seasons
We need to sell in Jan cause I'm already sick of the questions about him in media interviews.
He isn't likely to play for us in any significant manner again so let's just get rid of the problem.
He isn't likely to play for us in any significant manner again so let's just get rid of the problem.
Do you actually trust Ineos to use the funds from that sale to improve the team? So far they have shown more economic penny pinching than anything so wouldn't suprise me if they sell him and then say that we can't replace them because of money..
No, but at least Sky can stop asking 100 million questions about him and focus on the game.
Rashford isn't the solution to our problems, this has been clear for about 5 years. He is a good player to have but very expendable. I've no idea why we gave him a 300k a week contract.
These contracts need to stop and maybe we will have more money again.
He would have been sold ages ago under Sir Alex because his priority isn’t football.
Sir Alex would have absolutely loved Rashford—a talented academy product with a hunger to succeed, which he demonstrated brilliantly when he broke onto the scene. It’s amusing how some seem to forget just how refreshing and exciting Rashford was when he emerged, injecting life into a struggling team at the time.
Yes, it’s fair to say he’s picked up a few bad habits over the past couple of years. He’s a product of his environment—a club lacking guidance, strong leadership, and consistent success since Sir Alex retired.
If Sir Alex were still in charge, I genuinely believe he’d have kept Rashford grounded, instilling the discipline and focus he was known for demanding from his players. Rashford would have been nurtured and held accountable in a way only Sir Alex could manage, just as he handled many young talents before.
I think you are so far off. SAF famously got rid of players who were still world class. A few bad habits? Come on man, he’s been running to his mates and the media for years, the frequency of which has risen exponentially vis a vis his worsening performances. That’s not even mentioning the fact that he apparently feels better than the team he’s playing for.
Inventing an ideal scenario where this mythological figure is able to get Sir Marcus to do the job we’re paying him incredibly well to do, is an insult to the man and all the players who trived in a hyper competitive environment.
How Rashford played before (his debut was 9 years ago) isn’t even a little interesting in this discussion.
One thing I don't like about your posts is how you never hold Rashford accountable for how things have turned out. It's always the fault of others. Like "he's a product of his environment"
He's responsible for his performances every time he steps out in a United shirt. He's responsible for his attitude and application in training. He's responsible for how he treats others. He's been called out by Amorim on these things and it's his own fault, not the environments. Rashford is to blame.
If you ever want to see the club return to the great heights Ferguson reached, you better hope we move forward in an environment where players are held accountable and not one where excuses are made for them, as has been the case for so long now.
@Walters_19_MuFc I remember you running the same defence for Rooney when it was clear to most that he was finished and it was down to his own lack of discipline.
I was more sympathetic with Rashford until I saw how many games he’d played, 426. More than Schmeichel, Bruce, O’Shea, Beckham, Evra etc. He’s had so much time at the club, more than anyone but 19 players in history, so maybe it’s just time to call it a day. The issues that have shown up have been consistent with the last few years so just best for both parties.
Nope and Fergie would have called United fans booing him and hating on him absolute morons and not fit to be united fans
He absolutely is not worth what we pay him, not even half of that. However, I feel that the club used Amorim in his role as the new tough guy to scapegoat him and kick him out of the team. His reaction was stupid of course and somewhat helped the club in further building and agenda against him.
And while his contribution on the pitch over the past months was very poor I feel that without him we create even less chances and are less dangerous.
If we are able to sell him let's do it of course but this is valid for at least 70% of our squad.
And while his contribution on the pitch over the past months was very poor I feel that without him we create even less chances and are less dangerous.
If we are able to sell him let's do it of course but this is valid for at least 70% of our squad.
What defense am I running? I’ve pointed out numerous times, both in this thread and others, that it’s time for Rashford to move on. My reply was simply addressing an earlier post, emphasising that we shouldn’t forget the good years he gave us—just as was the case with Rooney.
Frankly, some of the disrespect directed toward Rooney by you and others was disgraceful. However, I have no interest in going over that debate with you, to be completely honest.
I was proven 100% correct about Rooney. By his own admission he was drinking himself to sleep most nights. It had nothing to do with playing a lot of games from young or an injury against Bayern. If you don’t look after yourself you can’t compete. It could and probably should be put down to his mental health and likely addiction to Alcohol but that doesn’t change the fact that was the reason he fell off a cliff and not his “body type” or “playing a lot of football when he was younger”, just chronic indiscipline.
I’m not disregarding what Rashford has done. If he’s not conducting himself in a professional manner, then I believe he absolutely deserves to be dropped.
That said, I do think Rashford would have fared much better under Sir Alex Ferguson. Sir Alex wouldn’t have tolerated such behavior, but more importantly, he had strong leaders in the dressing room to keep young players grounded. Unfortunately, Rashford hasn’t had that kind of influence.
Yes, I agree that Rashford is ultimately responsible for his actions. However, let’s not forget that even players like Beckham, Giggs, and Butt weren’t always exemplary off the pitch. The difference is that they had teammates and a culture that held them accountable and guided them. If they had come through the current regime post-Sir Alex, without that leadership and structure, we might not have seen them develop into the mentally strong players they became.
The fact is, many of the debates we had—and feel free to go back and look them up—centered on how Rooney was still contributing to the team in terms of goals and assists. But even if he wasn’t, a player of Rooney’s calibre, who achieved so much and won countless honours for the club we support, deserved far more respect than he was given. The way he was treated by some was nothing short of disgraceful.
Rashford deserves the same send off as Scott McTominay, Jonny Evans and Wes Brown got.
Send off
Send off
Sir Alex did move on world-class players when necessary, I agree. However, my point is that had Rashford come through the ranks under Sir Alex and the leaders in the dressing room at the time, we might be looking at a very different player today. Let’s not pretend Sir Alex didn’t face similar issues with young players—he absolutely did—but he was quick to address them. For those he could no longer manage or control, he made the tough decision to move them on, much like what we’re seeing with Rashford now.
As for the idea of "inventing an ideal scenario," I think it’s naive to dismiss the role managers play in shaping young players' development. Should a player require someone to guide them like that? Perhaps not. But part of what made Sir Alex such a brilliant manager was his ability to treat players as individuals, understanding what made them tick and getting the best out of them. With that in mind, I don’t think it’s far-fetched to suggest that Rashford would have thrived under Sir Alex’s management.
Rashford broke through at a young age and performed relatively well early on. It seems that, in his mind, he’s already reached superstar status: the most talked-about player at Manchester United, the highest-paid, and the top scorer in the squad. Sir Alex, however, was meticulous in keeping players grounded and out of the spotlight for obvious reasons. I firmly believe Rashford wouldn’t have been as exposed to the pitfalls of fame and ego if Sir Alex were still in charge.
Rooney benefitted from the professionalism and standards of all the senior players that accommodated his inconsistencies as a young player and helped develop him into the world class player he was. That is the culture Sir Alex Ferguson fostered and he saw the direction Rooney was heading and did his best to move him out of the club and as usual Sir Alex was spot on. At a time when the club needed model professionalism from the captain, needed a player that would lead the way in the dressing room and on the field we had a player with a drinking habit fast letting his standards slide. Our most senior and high profile player should have been continuing the standards that his senior players demanded of him but how could he when he was consistently one of the worst players on the pitch?
Your feelings on Rooney is that he could do whatever the feck he liked because of what he achieved when he was younger, mine feelings are that he badly let himself and the club down at a time when it needed him to step up the most.
But SAF isn’t in charge and neither does he have a Roy Keane to tell him to wind his neck in. Instead he’s been allowed to fester in bad habits and now it’s too late for him to change. Time to move on