[Mr Anderson]

2 days after Amorim sets a benchmark for him to hit publically, instead of going to try to work towards it, he immediately puts the feelers out about a new challenge. Genuinely that is a disgrace, if we cant sell him then flog him on loan - get rid asap. Dont need someone unwilling to even 'try' publically to show commitment to the new manager and take on his words.

Shows you his mentality, no effort will come from him to get back to what he did produce in terms of commitment on the pitch and equally scoring / assisting. He will go and mope around to another club, PSG for his ego would be a perfect match but Enrique will equally hate his attitude.

 

[The Serpent]

Like honestly, just want to again point something out...



Does that not say it all about your social media consumption. I mean why and how do you even know that?

I note you clapped back at @Red Devil 26 for his comment but he is 100% correct. You're seeing all these articles/headlines/videos because that is what you're looking at.

Bare in mind my point here was never to suggest Rashford isnt abused online. He's the biggest name at United, he'll have the most negative and subsequently the most positive comments. IIRC Ronaldo is the most abused footballer online but also the most with positive comments.

What I've been getting at is what you are consuming. We know how youtube/X etc work. It shows you what you have been going out of your way to look at.

When I'm on Youtube I get lots of stick to football/Overlap/COPA football stories because that is what I look and search for. When I'm on X I get a lot of FPL/Team news/Transfer news traffic because that is what I look at and search for.

If you are finding yourself in a position where you're seeing Joey Barton insult Rashford, seeing that talksport have 19 stories on Rashford and constant negative Rashford posts online it is because YOU are seeking that out. None of this is by accident.

Yes, it is absolutely your own doing. I do genuinely think you should reduce your internet consumption. Look we all know online abuse is wrong but it really isnt worth getting wound up about. If you go down enough rabbit holes you will find people being racially, sexually, religiously abused and then some online. It is what it is. These people won't go away, social media isnt going away and the insistence to give these people such a platform of being listened to is not good. Collating tables of said abuse and repeatedly speaking about it just makes them do it more.

Trust me, the last thing I've been looking for is stories about Rashford. I don't think I've even ever searched his name online other than to get stats figures for performance on google. It's insane to assume I'm seeking out negative rashford posts, when they are unavoidable and find all of them pretty much boring, I heard it all for the last 2-3 seasons, prrashford, Rashford, he's doesn't earn his wage, hes disrespected the fans, he doesn't track back who does he think he is driving and wearing bling etc it's the same crap, it's laughable for you to suggest I seek out reading something I heard a million times before.

Previously you could actually ignore it now it's literally everywhere. All you have to do is type in man utd into youtube and there are non stop rashford feeds all of them questioning his ability, future etc.

Right now look on sky sports there are 4 articles on Rashford on their main page meanwhile Mudryk just failed a drug tests and it barely heard much big noise about it. I guess, Amorim was seeking out negative stories on rashford when the entire presser was filled with journalists asking him questions about rashford and how his team mates would feel impacted?

So if I want to avoid seeing Rashford abuse, I should close down my internet stop looking for united news online, because that will discourage people abusing players, did I get that right?

Is it my fault for listening to the manager's press conference and hearing about Rashford? Should I ignore pressers as well?

 

[tomaldinho1]

2 days after Amorim sets a benchmark for him to hit publically, instead of going to try to work towards it, he immediately puts the feelers out about a new challenge. Genuinely that is a disgrace, if we cant sell him then flog him on loan - get rid asap. Dont need someone unwilling to even 'try' publically to show commitment to the new manager and take on his words.

Shows you his mentality, no effort will come from him to get back to what he did produce in terms of commitment on the pitch and equally scoring / assisting. He will go and mope around to another club, PSG for his ego would be a perfect match but Enrique will equally hate his attitude.

I'd imagine the club has said he's welcome to try and move and won't really mind the article. He isn't a starter for Amorim and Berrada likely sees him as a potential cash cow - I think he's just visibly done with United and vice versa fans have given up on him.

 

[Ronaldo's Love Child]

2 days after Amorim sets a benchmark for him to hit publically, instead of going to try to work towards it, he immediately puts the feelers out about a new challenge. Genuinely that is a disgrace, if we cant sell him then flog him on loan - get rid asap. Dont need someone unwilling to even 'try' publically to show commitment to the new manager and take on his words.

Shows you his mentality, no effort will come from him to get back to what he did produce in terms of commitment on the pitch and equally scoring / assisting. He will go and mope around to another club, PSG for his ego would be a perfect match but Enrique will equally hate his attitude.

I've read Rashford's statement the same way you have.

He's clearly been called out by Amorim for some transgression. Instead of keeping his head down and getting on with it he comes out with this. Best case scenario is that he trusts his cackle of friends and agents who does his PR. Worst case scenario is that Rashford is behind all of his PR crap

 

[Tincanalley]

I expect to see him against Spurs.

 

[NinjaZombie]

Gets dropped, and one of his first reaction is to do an interview where he says he's ready for a new challenge. This interview comes a couple of days after the team wins at the Etihad against Man City.

Guy talks about not "being that kind of person" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) but his actions speak louder.

 

[Mavs]

I expect to see him against Spurs.

He very well might play there, and he will likely still be part of the squad and playing regularly until he gets sold. Amorim has at least said as much in his most recent statements. I don't know what kind of performances we'll get from him though but we don't have a deep enough squad to leave him out for good. He didn't completely bury the club like Ronaldo did in his exit interview, although his performances and attitude on the pitch in the recent months are equally disrespectful - so a statement like "You're not going to have any negative comments from me about Manchester United. That's me as a person." is just completely fake and disingenous. But it leaves him open for selection still if the club/Amorim wants.

 

[Paddymcc]

Rashford has been indulged by too many managers for far too long.

Cast your minds back to the summer of 2021, he was clearly carrying an injury and allowed to postpone surgery so he could go to the Euros with England. He even stated to the press he had been playing for nearly 11mths with this shoulder injury.

He played a total of 83 minutes the whole tournament, writing off pretty much the whole upcoming season so he could chase glory with England.

When he returned to United after surgery, the season had restarted, he had obviously missed all of preseason. He then returned from injury in October and never made a meaningful appearence until playing 77 mins at the end of November. After some decent appearences through December it was February again before he was nearly playing full matches again.

Lets add that to the list of other misdemeaners and his nicely timed PR puff pieces and photo OPs his cronies in the media conjure up and ask yourself is this nonsense worth it?

Rashford is out for Team Rashford.

 

[Ludens the Red]

Trust me, the last thing I've been looking for is stories about Rashford. I don't think I've even ever searched his name online other than to get stats figures for performance on google. It's insane to assume I'm seeking out negative rashford posts, when they are unavoidable and find all of them pretty much boring, I heard it all for the last 2-3 seasons, prrashford, Rashford, he's doesn't earn his wage, hes disrespected the fans, he doesn't track back who does he think he is driving and wearing bling etc it's the same crap, it's laughable for you to suggest I seek out reading something I heard a million times before.

Previously you could actually ignore it now it's literally everywhere. All you have to do is type in man utd into youtube and there are non stop rashford feeds all of them questioning his ability, future etc.

Right now look on sky sports there are 4 articles on Rashford on their main page meanwhile Mudryk just failed a drug tests and it barely heard much big noise about it. I guess, Amorim was seeking out negative stories on rashford when the entire presser was filled with journalists asking him questions about rashford and how his team mates would feel impacted?

So if I want to avoid seeing Rashford abuse, I should close down my internet stop looking for united news online, because that will discourage people abusing players, did I get that right?

Is it my fault for listening to the manager's press conference and hearing about Rashford? Should I ignore pressers as well?

Well this is why it’s a subconscious thing….you don’t realise you’re doing it.

All you have to do is type in man utd into youtube and there are non stop rashford feeds all of them questioning his ability, future etc.

I typed Man Utd into YouTube. And I was not shown one single video where Marcus Rashford’s ability was questioned. There were videos with open ended questions about his future yes. But that’s probably got something to do with him literally implying he was going to leave. But like I’ve said to you, Youtube will cater to what you “want”… So if you’re seeing negative videos on Rashford on youtube when you search Man United, its because that’s what you’re watching. This is a fact. You can deny it to the cows come home, this is literally how It works.

Right now look on sky sports there are 4 articles on Rashford on their main page meanwhile Mudryk just failed a drug tests and it barely heard much big noise about it.

I went on skysports website and they have two articles about Rashford. They state

Amorim “Man Utd are better with Rashfrod”

Man Utd Latest : I want to get Rashford back to his best”.

Now you’re just conflating basic Rashford news reporting with abusive online Rashford content. Those two articles are even positive.

They are not the same thing, nor are they linked…

Again, Rashford plays for Man Utd, the biggest club in the country. He is the biggest name at United. This week he has been left out of a Manchester derby and openly stated he wants a new challenge. None of these are agenda driven or negative news articles or negative journalistic questions. They are completely relevant and current to whats happened with rashford this week.

So if I want to avoid seeing Rashford abuse, I should close down my internet stop looking for united news online, because that will discourage people abusing players, did I get that right?

Not really what I said or remotely implied is it. There is a clear difference. But again I would strongly advise you to spend less time on x, youtube etc. And less time watching the United Stand, Talksport and Joey Barton.

At the end of the day you’re building this narrative in your head that everyone is out for Rashford. You tried to accuse Neville of doing it and when I pointed out he spoke about Casemiro too you suddenly sidestepped that discussion.

I am sure there is plenty of abuse directed at Rashford online. You have confirmed this … but it’s disingenuous to suggest it’s unavoidable.

 

[TrivelaDeBruno]

Of course all the negativity will filter into the subconscious mind that's the intention of the media to brainwash and pollute peoples minds hence why nearly the majority of the fanbase believe Man utds biggest problem is marcus rashford. I'm pretty confident you could run an online poll right now on united's biggest issue and I'd be confident the answer from the majority would be marcus rashford, Just because I notice it and does not mean I seek it out or process it the same way as it's intended hence why I'm not joining in the bashing session of Marcus Rashford. Just for context Talksport ran 19 videos in the last week over Marcus Rashford.

Nothing I say contradicts anything, I'm not on IG, I do not even know how to navigate twitter, most of the tweets I see are posted on here that's how I knew fans got angry for rashford throwing his gloves on the floor and then a fan on here got outraged because rashford wasn't the last player to leave the ground at the end of the game. If you think the toxicity is exclusive to twitter then you are horribly mistaken.

As I said before most of the breaking news that is reported comes from twitter links posted on here. So how is it possible for you to assume I loiter on twitter IG, because I see posts on twitter on here? I get my news on united from redcafe and youtube mostly and most of the stuff I see on yt I see parroted on here, someone even referenced that clown Mark Goldbridge as evidence of support for rashford which is hilarious considering the guys sole purpose is to breed toxicity and manipulate the fans to turn against our own players.

As for Joey Barton, I do not take seriously his points, just highlighting the farce that everybody now has been given a voice to air their grievances against Rashford. During a warm up session rashford was being goaded by a fan and security had to intervene to tell the fan to keep his mouth shut. To pretend it's only exclusive to social media is disingenuous

As for Pogba, you are right the fan didn't march on to the pitch, my memory of the evident was wrong, but pogba was close to the stands and the fan was hurling abuse at him, calling him shit, below average and to get out of the club. Again at the time he was the scapegoat and it was the same method of flooding non stop negative stories to destroy his rep, the same way it's used now to destroy Rashford's rep.

And the fan channel is not something I made up unfortunately, his name is Adam Matic and he's been running down rashford calling him poisonous for seasons. He now has United backstage access and was attempting to greet the players and then expected a handshake/acknowledgement from Rashford and originally entitled his video ''every man united player responded except Rashford'' then people called him out and changed his title, but the video is still up on youtube if you don't believe me as I can't link media as don't have those privileges

Believes? When the player who is supposed to be your match winner, who the club has propped up on a pedestal to the extent it has with him, who is taking up a big chunk of the salary allotment, and for the last season and a half has been more or less a default starter doesn't put the work in, doesn't show an ounce of fight on the pitch, sets a horrible example for his teammates and doesn't produce is a colossal problem which has absolutely nothing to do with anything said on social media. There is no belief involved here but just cold hard reality.

 

[sixdwarf]

2 days after Amorim sets a benchmark for him to hit publically, instead of going to try to work towards it, he immediately puts the feelers out about a new challenge. Genuinely that is a disgrace, if we cant sell him then flog him on loan - get rid asap. Dont need someone unwilling to even 'try' publically to show commitment to the new manager and take on his words.

Shows you his mentality, no effort will come from him to get back to what he did produce in terms of commitment on the pitch and equally scoring / assisting. He will go and mope around to another club, PSG for his ego would be a perfect match but Enrique will equally hate his attitude.

I agree. Amorim press conference is weak. Rashford has publicly stated he wants a new challenge. That is more indiscipline from him after his drunken trip to Dublin which was a disgrace on its own. What must the dressing room think that Rashford can get away with this continual indiscipline on and off the pitch. There should be no way back without a public apology from Rashford and more importantly showing the right attitude on the pitch. Because he is right now the new Lingard. If Amorim doesn't act in the right way he will lose the respect of any normal thinking person.

 

[RedDevil@84]

So what exactly is your point? That it's my fault for witnessing constant online abuse and bullying of one of our players? I should just shut up close the internet and pretend it isn't happening?

That is up to you how much you want to consume. I wouldn't tune into talksport because I know they are full of shit and not just about Rashford.

But I really hope Rashford is not consuming random assholes on the internet talking shit for views and getting affected by it. He should be sensible enough to shut it out.
World is full of assholes. You would not be able to live normally/peacefully if you decide to lend your ears to each one of them.

 

[eiknaldo]

Gets dropped, and one of his first reaction is to do an interview where he says he's ready for a new challenge. This interview comes a couple of days after the team wins at the Etihad against Man City.

Guy talks about not "being that kind of person" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) but his actions speak louder.

I'm quite certain that he didn't do an interview because he was dropped against city. He did it after the news arose that the club is up for selling him in January. I don't know if the news is true, but I guess because of it he felt let down by the club and then there will have been a lot of reporters who have asked him for an interview.

Honestly if the news of putting Rashford up for sale in January is true, this is a big motivation killer. Imagine you've been dropped by the coach for the derby, then you realise you have to work harder and are looking forward to turn things around (as Amorim mentioned he trained very well on Sunday). But on the very next occasion you hear that you're not wanted anymore by the club. I can understand if this does something in your head...

 

[BaguetteBoy]

I think it all comes down to is Marcus Rashford an asset to the club or we want to keep him for sentimental values??

 

[RedDevil@84]

Are they mutually exclusive? Is it not fair to assume that some of those cnuts are on here?

I would assume they are not the same guys, unless proved otherwise.

Views like "We have a toxic fanbase" comes from assuming regular critics and racial abusers are all the same. Not just with Rashford, there is toxicity on the internet for so many celebrities. And it happens mostly because there is a relative anonymity on the internet. One can talk stuff on the internet without any repercussions, unless cops decide to catch the person . If one says the same thing outside, somebody will knock off his/her teeth.

 

[NotChatGPT]

If anyone is trying to debate the fact that Rashford gets an obscene amount of abuse online then they are either uninformed or blinded by their own opinions on him.

Statistically, if you look up a random social media post about Christian Eriksen it’s more likely to be a hateful post than if you look up a random Rashford post, and we’re talking about a player that came fairly close to dying on the pitch. It’s a nasty side of fame and fortune, you get every end of the scale. At the end of the day they use social media to further enhance their brand and generate more income, they have social media teams that take care of these things so you’d expect very little of that abuse to actually reach the players unless they’re looking for it, and they’d have to be morons to go looking for it, so i’d say they’re getting off lightly compared to the shitshow directed towards Beckham after his red card for England, where the nation and media completely turned against him and blamed him for Englands exit.

It’s obviously not nice, but that’s the internet for you. Is it really that much worse than the amount of shit the players get from opposition fans in the stadium?

At the end of the day it comes across as a bit of a silly point. Yes, there’s a shitload of negative posts about Rashford online, there’s a shitload of racism, there’s a shitload of everything, and then?

 

[The Serpent]

Well this is why it’s a subconscious thing….you don’t realise you’re doing it.



I typed Man Utd into YouTube. And I was not shown one single video where Marcus Rashford’s ability was questioned. There were videos with open ended questions about his future yes. But that’s probably got something to do with him literally implying he was going to leave. But like I’ve said to you, Youtube will cater to what you “want”… So if you’re seeing negative videos on Rashford on youtube when you search Man United, its because that’s what you’re watching. This is a fact. You can deny it to the cows come home, this is literally how It works.



I went on skysports website and they have two articles about Rashford. They state

Amorim “Man Utd are better with Rashfrod”

Man Utd Latest : I want to get Rashford back to his best”.

Now you’re just conflating basic Rashford news reporting with abusive online Rashford content. Those two articles are even positive.

They are not the same thing, nor are they linked…

Again, Rashford plays for Man Utd, the biggest club in the country. He is the biggest name at United. This week he has been left out of a Manchester derby and openly stated he wants a new challenge. None of these are agenda driven or negative news articles or negative journalistic questions. They are completely relevant and current to whats happened with rashford this week.



Not really what I said or remotely implied is it. There is a clear difference. But again I would strongly advise you to spend less time on x, youtube etc. And less time watching the United Stand, Talksport and Joey Barton.

At the end of the day you’re building this narrative in your head that everyone is out for Rashford. You tried to accuse Neville of doing it and when I pointed out he spoke about Casemiro too you suddenly sidestepped that discussion.

I am sure there is plenty of abuse directed at Rashford online. You have confirmed this … but it’s disingenuous to suggest it’s unavoidable.

I was using an example, that if you type man utd into youtube, you find videos of rashford on the top of the algorithm I never claimed it's all about abuse. For the 100th time I don't seek out rashford videos. There's now 7 articles on Sky sports and you think it's my subconscious seeking it out? You think my subconscious is power enough to conjure up articles on Sky Sports official website?

'Amorim grilled over Rashford future: 'We need a big talent''

''Rashford ''ready for new challenge' as Man Utd exit links intensify''

''Amorim Man utd better with Rashford'

''Man utd Latest ' Amorim I want to get rashford back to his best''

''What next for Rashford Spain, Italy France''
Transfer Centre LIVE! Should Rashford leave Man Utd? Have your say!

''Where will Rashford end up? | 'Drop-off in form couldn't have come at a worse time'


If you genuinely believe there is no agenda then I really don't know what to tell you

Even before rashford spoke out this week it was a few days earlier the media were running articles that the club and ineos had decided he was up for sale. So stop the gaslighting. I do not listen to Joey Barton, Goldbridge or talksport neither am I a subscriber to these joke channels, the videos pop up on my feed along with other fan channels which I'm not subscribed to however when you look for man utd news the youtube algorithm will link the most popular viewed videos on your feed and someone on here mentioned his name as evidence that Rashford gets support which is ridiculous. And you are naïve or disingenuous if you believe these same cretins from twitter who abuse players and het their takes from these fan channels don't rock up here repeating the same drivel they heard from these morons.

I would appreciate if you stop making false claims about what I do or what I spend my time doing. I've already explained to you that I don't go on twitter looking for stories since it's a mess and don't know how to even navigate it, I've already explained that to you that I don't look for rashford stories and you continue to try and gas light and as act if it's just me who sees an agenda unfolding against one of our players.

As for Neville, yes he did mention casmiro, he also had a sky sports debate with Micah Richards right after the game to discuss Marcus Rashford

It sounds like you want to gaslight people to make it ok for players to be hounded in the media and feel uncomfortable with others calling it out and then making patronising comments stating I should monitor how I use social media. This forum is a form of social media and maybe you should take your own advice since twitter links get posted on here daily. A player no matter how big of a club, should not have this kind of scrutiny after being dropped for one game. Rangnick dropped rashford for longer periods for Elanga and there was never this much narrative driven drama.

What do you think is more newsworthy, a player being dropped for one game or a player failing a drugs test at London's one of biggest clubs?

 

[RedDevil@84]

What do you think is more newsworthy, a player being dropped for one game or a player failing a drugs test at London's one of biggest clubs?

Not sure why you keep bringing Mount or Mudryk or some others. They are not big stars like Rashford. Rashford has created a name for himself even outside of football. Rashford is an MBE.

Rashy plays for one of the biggest names in club football. He plays for the club with one of the largest global fanbase. Half of the sports journalists and English speaking football social media content creators earn their living by posting/writing constantly about Manchester United.

We are huge!!!!

 

[Beachryan]

Is there any world where this is the (final) kick up the backside he needed to work here?

I mean, I don't think so, but we can hope right? Surely every United fan's best case scenario here is a reinvigorated, fully-fit and firing Rashford?

 

[kopviolator]

Is there any world where this is the (final) kick up the backside he needed to work here?

I mean, I don't think so, but we can hope right? Surely every United fan's best case scenario here is a reinvigorated, fully-fit and firing Rashford?

I'm as disappointed as anyone things haven't worked out for him. But the writing is on the wall. It has been evident for a long time that parting ways is the best to happen for both parties. Him coming out and declaring himself ready to go says everything about the situation really. I wish him well, but his time here is up.

 

[Doracle]

I'm as disappointed as anyone things haven't worked out for him. But the writing is on the wall. It has been evident for a long time that parting ways is the best to happen for both parties. Him coming out and declaring himself ready to go says everything about the situation really. I wish him well, but his time here is up.

Agree with this. Rightly or wrongly he is leaving. It’s up to him now to prove that the club has made a mistake and produce wherever he next ends up. He’s provided a lot of the best memories over the last few years as a United fan and it will be a sad day when he does go.

 

[Vidooq]

 

[Mike Smalling]

If he's not even in the squad tomorrow, I'd say that's curtains on his time at the club (unless he has an injury problem or something). Especially considering our current schedule, and how much rotation is needed. If the last few days hasn't made him give everything in training to be selected, I don't think his heart is in it anymore.

 

[Castia]

Think that’s it then. No doubt we’ll get the New York photos followed by him training somewhere out in the US whilst he finds a new club

 

[Ludens the Red]

I was using an example, that if you type man utd into youtube, you find videos of rashford on the top of the algorithm I never claimed it's all about abuse. For the 100th time I don't seek out rashford videos. There's now 7 articles on Sky sports and you think it's my subconscious seeking it out? You think my subconscious is power enough to conjure up articles on Sky Sports official website?

'Amorim grilled over Rashford future: 'We need a big talent''

''Rashford ''ready for new challenge' as Man Utd exit links intensify''

''Amorim Man utd better with Rashford'

''Man utd Latest ' Amorim I want to get rashford back to his best''

''What next for Rashford Spain, Italy France''
Transfer Centre LIVE! Should Rashford leave Man Utd? Have your say!

''Where will Rashford end up? | 'Drop-off in form couldn't have come at a worse time'


If you genuinely believe there is no agenda then I really don't know what to tell you

Even before rashford spoke out this week it was a few days earlier the media were running articles that the club and ineos had decided he was up for sale. So stop the gaslighting. I do not listen to Joey Barton, Goldbridge or talksport neither am I a subscriber to these joke channels, the videos pop up on my feed along with other fan channels which I'm not subscribed to however when you look for man utd news the youtube algorithm will link the most popular viewed videos on your feed and someone on here mentioned his name as evidence that Rashford gets support which is ridiculous. And you are naïve or disingenuous if you believe these same cretins from twitter who abuse players and het their takes from these fan channels don't rock up here repeating the same drivel they heard from these morons.

I would appreciate if you stop making false claims about what I do or what I spend my time doing. I've already explained to you that I don't go on twitter looking for stories since it's a mess and don't know how to even navigate it, I've already explained that to you that I don't look for rashford stories and you continue to try and gas light and as act if it's just me who sees an agenda unfolding against one of our players.

As for Neville, yes he did mention casmiro, he also had a sky sports debate with Micah Richards right after the game to discuss Marcus Rashford

It sounds like you want to gaslight people to make it ok for players to be hounded in the media and feel uncomfortable with others calling it out and then making patronising comments stating I should monitor how I use social media. This forum is a form of social media and maybe you should take your own advice since twitter links get posted on here daily. A player no matter how big of a club, should not have this kind of scrutiny after being dropped for one game. Rangnick dropped rashford for longer periods for Elanga and there was never this much narrative driven drama.

What do you think is more newsworthy, a player being dropped for one game or a player failing a drugs test at London's one of biggest clubs?

Going round in circles here now. You’re now trying to merge any story/news about Rashford into this alleged agenda/abuse narrative.
You’re absolutely waffling at this point.

You are not being gaslighted. You were whinging about how much negative rashford content is on X and YouTube. Again you can deny it all day long but the only way that kind of negative content is constantly plastered in your face is if you’re actively reading it. You’re literally trying to argue with basic social media algorithm.
You’re also now trying to make out as if I was arguing against the volume of basic content on Rashford. That was never ever my argument. I have literally said in my last post about how he will get headlines because of who he is and the club he plays for so you can save the sarcastic bs about your subconscious conjuring up articles on. rashford. That was never what I implied and you know it wasn’t.

You’ve lied about Pogba being attacked on the pitch by a fan. Lied about Neville picking on Rashford, the only agenda driven narrative peddling person here is you.

Talks about gaslighting but then tries to equate Rashford being dropped to Elanga being dropped. Talks about gaslighting then queries about why the poster boy for Manchester United talking about leaving the club is getting more coverage than a Chelsea reserve player failing a drugs test. Do me fecking favour.

 

[dutchred]

Really hope he can get a chance somewhere else. He is United through and through. He just needs a change. Remember David Beckham.

 

[Adisa]

Will be on loan in Jan.

 

[Adisa]

He is United through and through

Certainly doesn't play like it.

 

[Bo_devil]

Really hope he can get a chance somewhere else. He is United through and through. He just needs a change. Remember David Beckham.

He doesn't have even a quarter of the mentality or determination that Becks had, bad comparison. Maybe more accurate to compare him with a Pogba or Lingard, or a Martial. What did they do at club level since leaving United for a 'new challenge'? Becks went on to help Madrid win La liga twice btw and a Spanish supercup, adding to an already trophy laden career. After being booted out for his off the field lifestyle. Excelled on and off the pitch.

 

[SungSam7]

Really hope he can get a chance somewhere else. He is United through and through. He just needs a change. Remember David Beckham.

Huh? I remember the problem with Beckham was SAF unhappiness with the fact he was too involved with the celebrity life. This is not the case, Rashford is too lazy to be involved with anything.

 

[jem]

I agree. Amorim press conference is weak. Rashford has publicly stated he wants a new challenge. That is more indiscipline from him after his drunken trip to Dublin which was a disgrace on its own. What must the dressing room think that Rashford can get away with this continual indiscipline on and off the pitch. There should be no way back without a public apology from Rashford and more importantly showing the right attitude on the pitch. Because he is right now the new Lingard. If Amorim doesn't act in the right way he will lose the respect of any normal thinking person.

How is Amorim being weak?

 

[NotoriousISSY]

Really hope he can get a chance somewhere else. He is United through and through. He just needs a change. Remember David Beckham.

Which bit of this is like David Beckham, aside from the academy roots?

Sir Alex having a strong dislike for the celebrity side of things was the only reason he was pushed out iirc.

 

[dutchred]

Which bit of this is like David Beckham, aside from the academy roots?

Sir Alex having a strong dislike for the celebrity side of things was the only reason he was pushed out iirc.

I meant David and Alex had no relationship more and I feel that Amorin and Marcus have no relationship

 

[kaku06]

Tony O’Neill laid into him.

 

[NotChatGPT]

Tony O’Neill laid into him.

What is a Tony O’Neill ?

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Notice how this "study" starts by saying the criteria for selecting posts are whether they contained 'anger or disgust'.

All of these posts are then immediately referred to as abusive and hateful. Bullshit. There's zero evidence about how many 'angry' posts genuinely merit those labels.

Anyone can write an angry critical post about a footballer n number of different ways without it being abusive or hateful.

Yeah, with that methodology it feels like this study set out to prove a preconceived point from the start.

Categorizing any and all criticism (justified or unjustified) as "hate posts" is extremely intellectually dishonest.

And before anybody tries to rebut with the usual motte-and-bailey arguments like "are you saying footballers don't receive online hate?", that's obviously not what I'm claiming.

 

[JJ12]

Tony O’Neill laid into him.

Who is he?

 

[kaku06]

What is a Tony O’Neill ?

Lifelong united fan. Manc born and bred. Very respectable and popular figure in united circles, amongst ex players especially class of 92. Represented the fans and did the speech in Munich on the 60th anniversary of the Munich air crash also attended by united legends and officials from Bayern Munich.

 

[kaku06]

Who is he?

See above.

 

[JJ12]

See above.

Is that podcast something you listen to regularly? What's it like?