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Nearly double the next most ‘abused’ player. And others seem to wonder why it might get highlighted…
The % of abusive posts compared to, presumably positive / non-abusive, is similar in most of those United players though - around a quarter of them each time (23-27%).

Rashford's abusive posts column is a lot higher than the likes of Maguire, McTominay, Onana, etc, because he obviously gets a lot more posts - good and bad. The similar percentage of ones that are abusive (27% compared to 23, 24, 25%) for the United players suggest he must also have way more positive / non-abusive posts than the likes of Maguire, McTominay, Onana, etc, as well. That column just isn't listed in the data. If it was, that would also show a much higher number in Rashford's column than for any of the others.
 
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The % of abusive posts compared to, presumably positive / non-abusive, is similar in most of those United players though - around a quarter of them each time (23-27%).

Rashford's abusive posts column is a lot higher than the the likes of Maguire, McTominay, Onana, etc, because he obviously gets a lot more posts - good and bad. The similar percentage of ones that are abusive (27% compared to 23, 24, 25%) for the United players suggest he must also have way more positive / non-abusive posts than the likes of Maguire, McTominay, Onana, etc, as well. That column just isn't listed in the data.
It’s human nature to place more emphasis on the hate messages, I expect, particularly when a decent proportion of those will be racist messages. The sheer volume is quite mind blowing, in my opinion.
 
Mate, Rashford has about ten times the number of abusive messages as the top player on that list. Why is it bothering you so much that something very obvious is being pointed out?
Wasn't the point being made with those stats is that the % of posts that are abusive is very similar, and in fact higher in some others. Therefore, if there was a column for non-abusive posts, Rashford would also have a much higher number of those as well.

The stats just suggest that Rashford has a higher number of followers / responses, and so gets a much higher number in both the abusive / non-abusive columns - working out at a similar percentage of both to most of the others.
 
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Because he gets double the amount of hate posts of anyone else on that list! Percentage might be similar but the sheer number of posts he must get weekly compared to the others is obviously gonna take its toll. Hes getting around 10 times the hate posts of Eriksen. If you are getting 100 hate posts a week and I'm getting 1,000, do you not think I'm gonna be more affected? Especially if its vile abuse like Winter has claimed.
 
If Marcus wants to leave then good riddance quite frankly. Don't know who will pay his wages. He is following in the well trodden footsteps of his mate Jesse Lingard who is now nowhere. He is the new Dele Ali. Wasted talent.
 
Pack your bags and go somewhere else where you will feel better and at peace.

It’s quite obvious that he feels lost at the club at the moment, and has been for a while.

He’s been through a lot of managers, playstyles and teammates. So feeling lost may not be that strange.

The one big thing that puts all of this in a weird place is the salary. His wages are enormous and give up on them won’t happen. So the solution must be to sell him rather cheap and let the new club pay him a big sign on.

Maybe even a 30-40 million could be worth since the wage budget will decrease a lot.

Anyway, seems to be a nice lad with a bit of bad self esteem and weak psyche.

He also seem to lack a real fighter spirit. Something that Amorim seem to regard.
 
Because he gets double the amount of hate posts of anyone else on that list! Percentage might be similar but the sheer number of posts he must get weekly compared to the others is obviously gonna take its toll. Hes getting around 10 times the hate posts of Eriksen. If you are getting 100 hate posts a week and I'm getting 1,000, do you not think I'm gonna be more affected? Especially if its vile abuse like Winter has claimed.

% of overall posts shows the likelihood of it being negative/hate. The total number just says something about popularity, as with him having more positive posts than Kevin de Bruyne, but % wise it's miles below him.
 
Because he gets double the amount of hate posts of anyone else on that list! Percentage might be similar but the sheer number of posts he must get weekly compared to the others is obviously gonna take its toll. Hes getting around 10 times the hate posts of Eriksen. If you are getting 100 hate posts a week and I'm getting 1,000, do you not think I'm gonna be more affected? Especially if its vile abuse like Winter has claimed.
Considering the percentage that are abusive is about the same, then presumably you'd also be getting a similarly higher number of positive posts each week as well though.

And that's the 'mad' extremes of highs and lows that so many famous people have got to cope with. You hear it so often - having to deal with the extreme levels of praise / adulation (when things are going well) with criticism / abuse (when things aren't). It's something many face.
 
Considering the percentage that are abusive is about the same, then presumably you'd also be getting a similarly higher number of positive posts each week as well though.

And that's the 'mad' extremes of highs and lows that so many famous people have got to cope with. You hear it so often - having to deal with the extreme levels of praise / adulation (when things are going well) with criticism / abuse (when things aren't). It's something many face.

It's in the same article, the % is low but the number itself places him in the top 10 of most positive posts
 
Considering the percentage that are abusive is about the same, then presumably you'd also be getting a similarly higher number of positive posts each week as well though.

And that's the 'mad' extremes of highs and lows that so many famous people have got to cope with. You hear it so often - having to deal with the extreme levels of praise / adulation (when things are going well) with criticism / abuse (when things aren't). It's something many face.
Like @Posh Red said above, it's human nature to dwell more on the negative comments than positive ones.
 
It's in the same article, the % is low but the number itself places him in the top 10 of most positive posts
Thanks for that. I'd just kept seeing the negative posts being listed, I hadn't seen the original post including a link to a few extra stats as well.

If that's just for recent times, then Rashford being in the top 10 of most positive amount of posts during a lengthy run of poor form really does highlight the importance of taking into context the overall amount of posts for each player. Not just picking out certain parts that, out of context, help fit a particular narrative.

No wonder Rashford's positive percentage is comparatively low when his form is so poor - even being dropped by his national team. I'm sure it would have been much higher during his good seasons. But the fact he's still in the top 10 on total number of positive posts - during such a bad run of form - reflects how it's no wonder he's also much higher in the total number of negative posts during the same poor run.
 
I really don't think it'll be easy for him to move on. First of all he can only get paid similar wages at a very limited number of clubs in europe, and he has been poor for a long long time it'd be madness if he gets offered anywhere near that amount.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if he ends up staying after getting the same reaction Ronaldo got when no CL club wanted to sign him.

Our most likely option would be a loan in Jan where we cover some of his wages, in the hope that he finds some form. Those deals rarely work out for the club though.
 
Pack your bags and go somewhere else where you will feel better and at peace.

It’s quite obvious that he feels lost at the club at the moment, and has been for a while.

He’s been through a lot of managers, playstyles and teammates. So feeling lost may not be that strange.

The one big thing that puts all of this in a weird place is the salary. His wages are enormous and give up on them won’t happen. So the solution must be to sell him rather cheap and let the new club pay him a big sign on.

Maybe even a 30-40 million could be worth since the wage budget will decrease a lot.

Anyway, seems to be a nice lad with a bit of bad self esteem and weak psyche.

He also seem to lack a real fighter spirit. Something that Amorim seem to regard.

Reminder : Please use the correct thread for transfer talk. This one is only for specific player performance chat.

The correct thread.

https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mar...or-a-new-challenge-and-the-next-steps-”.485920/
 
Love to know exactly how much Henry Winter has been paid by Rashford's PR over the years.
People lay into Goldbridge for a variety of reasons (some of it is just envy). Henry Winter has showcased the ‘integrity’ of the old fashioned media for all to see.
 
Sad state of affairs but it's not compulsory he has a social media account.

And if he does have one there’s absolutely no need for him to manage it, personally. In fact that’s probably a very bad idea for anyone with his kind of profile. Even more so if he has a sensitive type of personality that means harsh words on social media affect can affect his ability to do his job.

And I’m not for one moment exonerating the pond life abusing him. I just find it mad that anyone would risk getting hurt, emotionally, by stuff that there is no need for them to read.
 
You got me wrong, I don't seek out social media for negativity and neither do I spend my time on the cesspit that is twitter, I don't even know how to use it, I'm only registered to it so I can see certain content I really don't have time for it other than looking at the latest exclusives from certified sources, which is where on here it gets posted. The likes of tier 1 sources or agents who have verified connections with the club and players and what they are really doing behind the scences is only the things I'm interested in. Mainstream media unfortunately has fallen behind getting exclusives so it's a sorry estate of affairs that we know how to rely on platforms like twitter. And unfortunately for the last few months, every time I try to seek out news on Manchester United, it's flooded with comments about rashford, whether it's sky sports, twitter, youtube, and even on here when he doesn't even start, he's name is on top of the page.

As for neville, he was trying to stir up trouble with rashford before amorim even managed a game, calling into question rashford's decision to take a holiday to the states, when he was given 5 days off by the club and asking amorim in his first Sky sports Interview about slying leading him to trying to get him to throw rashford under the bus. The media are very clever and they know how to drive and spoon feed people narratives but I have a gift to see through to BS and I will always call it out

Sports news are not running stories because he got dropped, garnacho also didn't start against city. This has been brewing for a while now and they've been waiting for this moment to destroy Rashford's reputation. The media always build them up then throw them to the dogs. Saying that I don't disagree he's been protected, I acknowledged that already and accepted it's a release for certain fans to feel vindicated who never rated him to begin with. Salute to them

As for the words scapegoat, hate campaign, harassment these phrases existed long before the conception of social media into the days of biblical times. I don't get influenced by social media otherwise I would be joining in to pile it in on the guy, I'm just fully aware of what goes on with our club who if you didn't know actively encourages our players to promote themselves through social media. The club actually do audits for social media to see which players get the most interactions hence why Amad even though he is our best player, is not marketed heavily by the club because he's not really a big social media whore .

I make no apologises for using the words harassment, scapegoat when there really isn't any other words to describe the situation if you look up the very definition of the terms, When you have guys like Joey Barton given a platorm to put in his two cents and being able to question Rashford's professionalism and attitude and dress code and being praised for it then there are no other words. This is a man who deliberately elbowed Pedro Mendes for no reason at all, and stomped on a guy on the field and his brother jailed, now is encouraged to give judgement on players who have never acted as thuggish and unprofessional as him on and off the field

As for incidents with rashford, he's been called out for a fight after a match, a fan channel approached him who has been on his case for ages, called him a disgrace because he didn't shake his hand because he had backstage access and was waiting for every player to acknowledge him like a overgrown fan boy. A fan marched on to the pitch once to confront Paul Pogba in his last season with us during the days when Souness had a personal vendetta against him, so don't tell me what happens through social media doesn't filter through to the grounds.

My entire point is to highlight how social media influences people's opinion, I've seen posts in here talking about his wages, his dress code, and how he drives a Bentley so obviously it's filtering through to this forum also. Obviously the majority of posters on here are sensible and I enjoy reading their points because it's football related and have no issue with any criticisms towards Rashford's performances, but then I feel even when he does perform well some posters want to down play it. Even when he hasn't started he's get blasted

And twitter was around during the rooney asking for a transfer request and flirting with city, that's why goons went round to his house and confronted him. The same thing happened with Steven Gerrard when he flirted with the idea of moving to Chelsea.

I don't loiter on twitter, istagram, etc I value my privacy too much to be and don't have the time to be countering all the cesspit braindead posts on there and it's even worse now with Elon Mask letting anyone be monetised even if they post pure hate speech and filth
I'm not trying to have a go at you here but honestly you've literally proven exactly what I suggested and in your attempts to downplay how much negative social media you sub consciously deliberately digest you literally prove thats exactly what you're doing.

I just wanna firstly take this comment you make...

As for neville, he was trying to stir up trouble with rashford before amorim even managed a game, calling into question rashford's decision to take a holiday to the states, when he was given 5 days off by the club and asking amorim in his first Sky sports Interview about slying leading him to trying to get him to throw rashford under the bus. The media are very clever and they know how to drive and spoon feed people narratives but I have a gift to see through to BS and I will always call it out

So you're basically saying Neville targeted Rashford with the holiday comment?

Here's the actual quote in this sky sports edit. Where he actually talks about BOTH Casemiro and Rashford. It wasn't targeted at Rashford, he actually he spoke about both players. And in the interview with Amorim he points out the comments he made about Casemiro and Rashford. Again at no point does he single out Rashford.




I don't loiter on twitter, istagram, etc I value my privacy too much to be and don't have the time to be countering all the cesspit braindead posts on there
It's interesting you say this, because everything below that you have also said, completely contradicts that.

I make no apologises for using the words harassment, scapegoat when there really isn't any other words to describe the situation if you look up the very definition of the terms, When you have guys like Joey Barton given a platorm to put in his two cents and being able to question Rashford's professionalism and attitude and dress code and being praised for it then there are no other words.
You're literally quoting something Joey Barton said. I cannot even fathom paying attention or even acknowledging anything he would say. I was aware of the Eni Aluko incident because it literally made the news. I think if you're a person who is saying the things you're saying about Rashford's treatment online, looking at Joey posts from Joey Barton is a really bad idea. And if your falling into a process of seeing Joey Bartons comments online and quoting them, something has gone wrong.

And unfortunately for the last few months, every time I try to seek out news on Manchester United, it's flooded with comments about rashford, whether it's sky sports, twitter, youtube, and even on here when he doesn't even start, he's name is on top of the page.
I can't say this has happened to me. I can easily access news/team sheets etc without a comment about Rashford popping up. But again what you're saying here doesn't tell me that you're a guy who doesn't loiter on twitter. You seem very very active on the site.

My entire point is to highlight how social media influences people's opinion, I've seen posts in here talking about his wages, his dress code, and how he drives a Bentley so obviously it's filtering through to this forum also.
Again, I can't say I've seen stuff on X where people are commenting about the above to such a degree to be able to link it to comments made on here. Again I can only say it's being overly exposed to those comments that would make you think that way. What i can ascertain is that you most definitely are influenced by the opinion of people on social media and in particular their negative opinions on Marcus Rashford.

As for incidents with rashford, he's been called out for a fight after a match, a fan channel approached him who has been on his case for ages, called him a disgrace because he didn't shake his hand because he had backstage access and was waiting for every player to acknowledge him like a overgrown fan boy. A fan marched on to the pitch once to confront Paul Pogba in his last season with us during the days when Souness had a personal vendetta against him, so don't tell me what happens through social media doesn't filter through to the grounds.

I mean that first bolded bit didnt happen. I know Pogba got into it with fans on the final day against Cardiff but that was from the stands. There was absolutely no incident which took place that saw a fan march onto the pitch to confront Pogba. Pretty sure that's a lie. Please prove me otherwise if thats the case. But I feel like that probably would have been a major story.

And I literally never said the second bit, I specifically said not to the level of what has happened at other clubs this week (You know an actual out banner in the ground and a fan literally on the pitch). Of course I'm aware of heckling incidents involving Pogba and Rashford. I'm certainly not aware of this incident with a fan channel. Again, this sounds very made up. You're going to have to produce some sort of evidence of these incidents.
 
There will be buyers. Some will be tempted by his potential, and hope a change of scenery will bring change in form.

Had his best spells during Ole's first two years when he was good in game after game. Rashford, Martial and Greenwood formed a good trio. Being a good fotballer means consistently delivering at a high level, and Rashford is not doing that. Time to go.
 
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I could not have expressed this any better.
I deleted Twitter in 2017 and have ever since reduced and reduced my time on social media.

It’s done me the world of good and most of the time I’m blissfully unaware of what a load of attention-seeking hate-filled trolls are banging on about.
I stay off social media except for a few sites like this and YouTube so I don't know what I'm missing with the hate campaign, but I join those who are concerned about Rashford's attitude.

But on the broader point about social media, less of it is better for your mental health and overall well being.
Yeah I think people need to start drumming this into themselves and I dunno maybe the powers that be at the Cafe need to get some sort of message out there because you can see how much it plays on peoples minds.

And the below just kinda blows my mind. Why on on earth is there somebody out there collating this shit. Like what is the actual benefit? And are they also counting the positive comments? I mean it's all just really weird to me.
PlayerClubHate Posts% of Overall Posts
Christian EriksenMan Utd75,28029%
Oleksandr ZinchenkoArsenal130,18028%
Diogo DalotMan Utd114,08028%
Ben ChilwellChelsea89,10028%
Marcus RashfordMan Utd707,16027%
Cody GakpoLiverpool78,02027%
Noni MaduekeChelsea96,22026%
Levi ColwillChelsea70,54026%
Scott McTominayMan Utd193,40025%
Harry MaguireMan Utd242,20024%
 
Christ, we really have a lot of shit "supporters".

6 of the players are/were United players too. Arsenal have the next highest, with 2...

No wonder most players struggle here.
I mean, you must surely understand that there's a strong likelihood a lot of this abuse will be from non Manchester United fans what with Manchester United being literally the most loathed club in the country.
 
He doesn’t have the consistency of a great player, he doesn’t have the work ethic of a great player, his pr team comes up with these stories as soon as demands increase from utd team, either he put real work in team or it’s a thank you from utd and no need to get emotional in anyway
 
I mean, you must surely understand that there's a strong likelihood a lot of this abuse will be from non Manchester United fans what with Manchester United being literally the most loathed club in the country.
Sure some of it will be rival supporters but I'm certain the vast majority will be United fans.
 
PlayerClubHate Posts% of Overall Posts
Christian EriksenMan Utd75,28029%
Oleksandr ZinchenkoArsenal130,18028%
Diogo DalotMan Utd114,08028%
Ben ChilwellChelsea89,10028%
Marcus RashfordMan Utd707,16027%
Cody GakpoLiverpool78,02027%
Noni MaduekeChelsea96,22026%
Levi ColwillChelsea70,54026%
Scott McTominayMan Utd193,40025%
Harry MaguireMan Utd242,20024%
I am genuinely interested to know what qualifies as abuse and do they sit and count? Do they have a set of words that are added to the abuse list and certain words that are non-abusive? Is being called a tit abuse or no?
 
It seems that my fate is to be among the first to spot something and spend years being shitted upon because of it only to end up defending that same thing when things go overboard on the other way. Yes Rashy is massively overrated by his groupies , he should be sold and he's overpaid. However he's also the same guy who scored 7 goals and made 3 assists in 25 matches which is quite good considering that he is playing in a system that doesn't suit him, with a club that he seem to fell out of love with and in a team that's hardly perfect. Yes his salary is indeed a problem. However its hardly a deal breaker either especially with clubs like PSG, Bayern and Saudi who aren't foreigners to such salaries.

United had always been horrible negotiators. Even at our prime we sold the likes of Becks way below his market value and we basically gifted Phil Neville to Everton. Yet we now have best in class negotiators. If Liverpool can get good money for Fabinho and City can get good money for Alvarez then we can, at least, get 30m for Rashy.
The market isn’t clamouring for a vastly overpaid player with questionable attitude and work ethics.

I’ll be glad as long as we move him on so he’s no longer our problem. I’ve been saying it for years, he’s overrated and deserves a contract closer to 100k per week than his supposedly 300k+.
 
I am genuinely interested to know what qualifies as abuse and do they sit and count? Do they have a set of words that are added to the abuse list and certain words that are non-abusive? Is being called a tit abuse or no?
Is calling his performances shit considered abuse? Because that’s just factually true.
 
I'm not trying to have a go at you here but honestly you've literally proven exactly what I suggested and in your attempts to downplay how much negative social media you sub consciously deliberately digest you literally prove thats exactly what you're doing.

I just wanna firstly take this comment you make...



So you're basically saying Neville targeted Rashford with the holiday comment?

Here's the actual quote in this sky sports edit. Where he actually talks about BOTH Casemiro and Rashford. It wasn't targeted at Rashford, he actually he spoke about both players. And in the interview with Amorim he points out the comments he made about Casemiro and Rashford. Again at no point does he single out Rashford.


It's interesting you say this, because everything below that you have also said, completely contradicts that.


You're literally quoting something Joey Barton said. I cannot even fathom paying attention or even acknowledging anything he would say. I was aware of the Eni Aluko incident because it literally made the news. I think if you're a person who is saying the things you're saying about Rashford's treatment online, looking at Joey posts from Joey Barton is a really bad idea. And if your falling into a process of seeing Joey Bartons comments online and quoting them, something has gone wrong.


I can't say this has happened to me. I can easily access news/team sheets etc without a comment about Rashford popping up. But again what you're saying here doesn't tell me that you're a guy who doesn't loiter on twitter. You seem very very active on the site.


Again, I can't say I've seen stuff on X where people are commenting about the above to such a degree to be able to link it to comments made on here. Again I can only say it's being overly exposed to those comments that would make you think that way. What i can ascertain is that you most definitely are influenced by the opinion of people on social media and in particular their negative opinions on Marcus Rashford.



I mean that first bolded bit didnt happen. I know Pogba got into it with fans on the final day against Cardiff but that was from the stands. There was absolutely no incident which took place that saw a fan march onto the pitch to confront Pogba. Pretty sure that's a lie. Please prove me otherwise if thats the case. But I feel like that probably would have been a major story.

And I literally never said the second bit, I specifically said not to the level of what has happened at other clubs this week (You know an actual out banner in the ground and a fan literally on the pitch). Of course I'm aware of heckling incidents involving Pogba and Rashford. I'm certainly not aware of this incident with a fan channel. Again, this sounds very made up. You're going to have to produce some sort of evidence of these incidents.

Of course all the negativity will filter into the subconscious mind that's the intention of the media to brainwash and pollute peoples minds hence why nearly the majority of the fanbase believe Man utds biggest problem is marcus rashford. I'm pretty confident you could run an online poll right now on united's biggest issue and I'd be confident the answer from the majority would be marcus rashford, Just because I notice it and does not mean I seek it out or process it the same way as it's intended hence why I'm not joining in the bashing session of Marcus Rashford. Just for context Talksport ran 19 videos in the last week over Marcus Rashford.

Nothing I say contradicts anything, I'm not on IG, I do not even know how to navigate twitter, most of the tweets I see are posted on here that's how I knew fans got angry for rashford throwing his gloves on the floor and then a fan on here got outraged because rashford wasn't the last player to leave the ground at the end of the game. If you think the toxicity is exclusive to twitter then you are horribly mistaken.

As I said before most of the breaking news that is reported comes from twitter links posted on here. So how is it possible for you to assume I loiter on twitter IG, because I see posts on twitter on here? I get my news on united from redcafe and youtube mostly and most of the stuff I see on yt I see parroted on here, someone even referenced that clown Mark Goldbridge as evidence of support for rashford which is hilarious considering the guys sole purpose is to breed toxicity and manipulate the fans to turn against our own players.

As for Joey Barton, I do not take seriously his points, just highlighting the farce that everybody now has been given a voice to air their grievances against Rashford. During a warm up session rashford was being goaded by a fan and security had to intervene to tell the fan to keep his mouth shut. To pretend it's only exclusive to social media is disingenuous

As for Pogba, you are right the fan didn't march on to the pitch, my memory of the evident was wrong, but pogba was close to the stands and the fan was hurling abuse at him, calling him shit, below average and to get out of the club. Again at the time he was the scapegoat and it was the same method of flooding non stop negative stories to destroy his rep, the same way it's used now to destroy Rashford's rep.

And the fan channel is not something I made up unfortunately, his name is Adam Matic and he's been running down rashford calling him poisonous for seasons. He now has United backstage access and was attempting to greet the players and then expected a handshake/acknowledgement from Rashford and originally entitled his video ''every man united player responded except Rashford'' then people called him out and changed his title, but the video is still up on youtube if you don't believe me as I can't link media as don't have those privileges
 
If anyone is trying to debate the fact that Rashford gets an obscene amount of abuse online then they are either uninformed or blinded by their own opinions on him.
 
Of course all the negativity will filter into the subconscious mind that's the intention of the media to brainwash and pollute peoples minds hence why nearly the majority of the fanbase believe Man utds biggest problem is marcus rashford. I'm pretty confident you could run an online poll right now on united's biggest issue and I'd be confident the answer from the majority would be marcus rashford, Just because I notice it and does not mean I seek it out or process it the same way as it's intended hence why I'm not joining in the bashing session of Marcus Rashford. Just for context Talksport ran 19 videos in the last week over Marcus Rashford.

Nothing I say contradicts anything, I'm not on IG, I do not even know how to navigate twitter, most of the tweets I see are posted on here that's how I knew fans got angry for rashford throwing his gloves on the floor and then a fan on here got outraged because rashford wasn't the last player to leave the ground at the end of the game. If you think the toxicity is exclusive to twitter then you are horribly mistaken.

As I said before most of the breaking news that is reported comes from twitter links posted on here. So how is it possible for you to assume I loiter on twitter IG, because I see posts on twitter on here? I get my news on united from redcafe and youtube mostly and most of the stuff I see on yt I see parroted on here, someone even referenced that clown Mark Goldbridge as evidence of support for rashford which is hilarious considering the guys sole purpose is to breed toxicity and manipulate the fans to turn against our own players.

As for Joey Barton, I do not take seriously his points, just highlighting the farce that everybody now has been given a voice to air their grievances against Rashford. During a warm up session rashford was being goaded by a fan and security had to intervene to tell the fan to keep his mouth shut. To pretend it's only exclusive to social media is disingenuous

As for Pogba, you are right the fan didn't march on to the pitch, my memory of the evident was wrong, but pogba was close to the stands and the fan was hurling abuse at him, calling him shit, below average and to get out of the club. Again at the time he was the scapegoat and it was the same method of flooding non stop negative stories to destroy his rep, the same way it's used now to destroy Rashford's rep.

And the fan channel is not something I made up unfortunately, his name is Adam Matic and he's been running down rashford calling him poisonous for seasons. He now has United backstage access and was attempting to greet the players and then expected a handshake/acknowledgement from Rashford and originally entitled his video ''every man united player responded except Rashford'' then people called him out and changed his title, but the video is still up on youtube if you don't believe me as I can't link media as don't have those privileges
Seems like your threshold on what is "normal social media consumption" is pretty high. It is not a surprise you come across lots of abusive/agenda/clickbait channels and twitter accounts.
 
Seems like your threshold on what is "normal social media consumption" is pretty high. It is not a surprise you come across lots of abusive/agenda/clickbait channels and twitter accounts.

So what exactly is your point? That it's my fault for witnessing constant online abuse and bullying of one of our players? I should just shut up close the internet and pretend it isn't happening?
 

Notice how this "study" starts by saying the criteria for selecting posts are whether they contained 'anger or disgust'.

All of these posts are then immediately referred to as abusive and hateful. Bullshit. There's zero evidence about how many 'angry' posts genuinely merit those labels.

Anyone can write an angry critical post about a footballer n number of different ways without it being abusive or hateful.
 
It sucks how everything around our club has so much drama involved. Why can't we just have one normal day. Rashford's PR isn't helping with the situation, that whole piece trying to hit fans emotionally. Just get on with it, if you really loved the club you let the team be the focus for once, especially after a result like we just had.
It's so clear to see, he's been playing like he doesn't care, he's lost love for the badge, no new manager bounce for him. I still think he can come good, but not here. Needs a change in environment, probably move somewhere abroad.
 
All these talks about social media is just big pile of codswallop.
What matters the most is what happens on the pitch, this is sports competition.
Footballers are human, they will do human behaviour like looking up to the top dog.
If your top dog (usually the most senior and highly paid) is stinking up the place with his performance and attitude, how do you expect to cultivate winning culture?
The answer is: you can't

The phrase "building the team around someone" does carry multiplicity of facets.
Not only how a team plays, but also how they act especially in the face of adversity.
It is quite simple, United cannot have Rashford as thier top dog if they want to be competitive and winning big prizes.
 
Just fecking let him go if he wants to go.

He simply hasn't had enough goals and assists per season on average in the last 10 years to warrant this sort of sympathy.

A good player, never a legend.
 
Of course all the negativity will filter into the subconscious mind that's the intention of the media to brainwash and pollute peoples minds hence why nearly the majority of the fanbase believe Man utds biggest problem is marcus rashford. I'm pretty confident you could run an online poll right now on united's biggest issue and I'd be confident the answer from the majority would be marcus rashford, Just because I notice it and does not mean I seek it out or process it the same way as it's intended hence why I'm not joining in the bashing session of Marcus Rashford. Just for context Talksport ran 19 videos in the last week over Marcus Rashford.

Nothing I say contradicts anything, I'm not on IG, I do not even know how to navigate twitter, most of the tweets I see are posted on here that's how I knew fans got angry for rashford throwing his gloves on the floor and then a fan on here got outraged because rashford wasn't the last player to leave the ground at the end of the game. If you think the toxicity is exclusive to twitter then you are horribly mistaken.

As I said before most of the breaking news that is reported comes from twitter links posted on here. So how is it possible for you to assume I loiter on twitter IG, because I see posts on twitter on here? I get my news on united from redcafe and youtube mostly and most of the stuff I see on yt I see parroted on here, someone even referenced that clown Mark Goldbridge as evidence of support for rashford which is hilarious considering the guys sole purpose is to breed toxicity and manipulate the fans to turn against our own players.

As for Joey Barton, I do not take seriously his points, just highlighting the farce that everybody now has been given a voice to air their grievances against Rashford. During a warm up session rashford was being goaded by a fan and security had to intervene to tell the fan to keep his mouth shut. To pretend it's only exclusive to social media is disingenuous

As for Pogba, you are right the fan didn't march on to the pitch, my memory of the evident was wrong, but pogba was close to the stands and the fan was hurling abuse at him, calling him shit, below average and to get out of the club. Again at the time he was the scapegoat and it was the same method of flooding non stop negative stories to destroy his rep, the same way it's used now to destroy Rashford's rep.

And the fan channel is not something I made up unfortunately, his name is Adam Matic and he's been running down rashford calling him poisonous for seasons. He now has United backstage access and was attempting to greet the players and then expected a handshake/acknowledgement from Rashford and originally entitled his video ''every man united player responded except Rashford'' then people called him out and changed his title, but the video is still up on youtube if you don't believe me as I can't link media as don't have those privileges
Like honestly, just want to again point something out...

Just for context Talksport ran 19 videos in the last week over Marcus Rashford.

Does that not say it all about your social media consumption. I mean why and how do you even know that?

I note you clapped back at @Red Devil 26 for his comment but he is 100% correct. You're seeing all these articles/headlines/videos because that is what you're looking at.

Bare in mind my point here was never to suggest Rashford isnt abused online. He's the biggest name at United, he'll have the most negative and subsequently the most positive comments. IIRC Ronaldo is the most abused footballer online but also the most with positive comments.

What I've been getting at is what you are consuming. We know how youtube/X etc work. It shows you what you have been going out of your way to look at.

When I'm on Youtube I get lots of stick to football/Overlap/COPA football stories because that is what I look and search for. When I'm on X I get a lot of FPL/Team news/Transfer news traffic because that is what I look at and search for.

If you are finding yourself in a position where you're seeing Joey Barton insult Rashford, seeing that talksport have 19 stories on Rashford and constant negative Rashford posts online it is because YOU are seeking that out. None of this is by accident.
So what exactly is your point? That it's my fault for witnessing constant online abuse and bullying of one of our players? I should just shut up close the internet and pretend it isn't happening?
Yes, it is absolutely your own doing. I do genuinely think you should reduce your internet consumption. Look we all know online abuse is wrong but it really isnt worth getting wound up about. If you go down enough rabbit holes you will find people being racially, sexually, religiously abused and then some online. It is what it is. These people won't go away, social media isnt going away and the insistence to give these people such a platform of being listened to is not good. Collating tables of said abuse and repeatedly speaking about it just makes them do it more.