Did I post about how I knew Ronaldo when he was 12 or Mbappe when he wasn't even mentioned on CAF?
All I'm asking is for few more young players with huge potential so that we can keep track of them.
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Did I post about how I knew Ronaldo when he was 12 or Mbappe when he wasn't even mentioned on CAF?
All I'm asking is for few more young players with huge potential so that we can keep track of them.
Lets wait 1 more year, maybe I am wrong in this one, who knows the future.
He reminded me of a young Rooney last night, first time I seen him but I was mightily impressed .
That is why I mentioned Guardiola, because I do not know if Wenger will stay, but at this point of the carrer he has to play more 1/2 seasons at Monaco to leave, just my opinion.
I am not saying one is better than the other. Rashford's debut season was sensational though which is forgotten somewhat, he is in a different phase now with more pressure to perform. Mbappe will have to deal with that soon enough.
And playing out of position. Easy to forget how exciting Rashford was last season.
Same mental strength is probably unlikely as Ronaldo is mentally one of the GOAT's imo, and thats where we differ in opinion, Im not sure if he has Ronaldo's potential and have no idea about how his developing curve will be. Some players are good already at very young age and develop little, other players start with much room for development and develop an awful lot in FIFA'esque mode like Bale for example. Ronaldo is a once in a generation footballer imo, his combination of will and physical attributes (albeit some developped in latter stages) is amazing. I dont really see what makes Mbappe different category of the players I mentioned above. Although his two footedness and direct play is already devastating.
I only mentioned Ronaldo at 12 because he played for my club, it would be the same thing as you like an United fan telling to me he remebered you Giggs at 15, if you like to follow youth players from your club, i do not make an living scouting talents, just expressed an opinion on Mbappé, because I had the chance to see him playing last Summer against Portugal at the under 19, and he was way ahead of all the players on that tournament, that is why I mentioned Ronaldo or Henry.
Maybe I am wrong and if that is the case in 1/2 years we will know.
Fair enough.
Do you think he was that much better than Jean Augustin?
It is why will be important for him to be at Monaco, even better under Jardim, the mental part of Ronaldo I cannot judge, but in technical and phisycal ability I think they are on the same level at the same age, only future will tell, there is always a lot of factors to fulfill that potential.
Mbappé?
Way better, for me Amine Harit was their 2 best player, Augustin third, at least this season Harit is proving that in Ligue 1, to be fair Harit is at Nantes and Augustin on PSG, different levels, and we need to remember Dembelé is part of that generation too, so Mbappé and Dembelé are the 2 best players from that generation, but for me Mbappé has even more potential.
Funny, I watched that tournament as well, maybe Augustin was advantaged by his physiqal strength but he was very good as well and I think ended player of the tournament as well as topscorer, with Mbappe second (as winger). But whilst Mbappe being a great talents, there have been more of his ilk over the past 13 years imo.
For me Dembele is #1, he wont be as good as a goalscorer as Mbappe imo but his range of qualities is so extreme, even more two footed and a bit better dribbling/passing defenders.
And the fact Mourinho never was known for developing young talents.
You think Bayern have more spending power than Chelsea?
I think it's the "prestige" part he was laughing at.
Mbappé is just my feeling, but if there is one in France who will match him or can be the best is Dembelé, Augustin no.
Except when he had to. It's a a bit of a myth really if your evidence is Chelsea and Real Madrid who are known for buying up talent more than developing their own
Yeah Mbappe and Augustin at the tournament.
Agreed, but going of that tournament I wouldnt have him ahead of the talents I mentioned above and put him next to Messi and Ronaldo.
Mourinho always was about the final product, to develop young players Jardim, Tuchel, Guardiola, in the past Wenger and Ferguson.
That's a subjective observation and I'm not sure it's a major factor in deciding where players go;some will choose the reputation of the club,others money and some location.
If I were French and of African descent I'm not sure Munich has more appeal over London TBH
I was more laughing at the prestige part but it's not like Chelsea can out spend Bayern out right. Bayern may not have the sugar daddy that Chelsea have but they have a lot of pulling power in the transfer market. They beat a lot of clubs to the signature of Sanches in the summer for example.
Mbappé was the best player by a distance then it was Harit who was the second best player by a distance and finally Blas and Augustin were at the same level. All four were playing at a very high level and Maouassa deserves to be mentioned because he was really good too.
never go full RAWKI think so as well. But Bayern also have a higher revenue than Chelsea and could go toe-to-toe with them financially. I just question their willingness to do so.
Fact is also, that Bayern need two wingers, since I doubt Costa and Coman are good enough to usurp Ribery and Robben. Alexis and Mbappe being the wet dream.
The former yes but in the latter stages of SAF's tenure I'm not sure he brought as many through as people think.
As for Wenger wasn't it more about buying the best from France/Spain. I'm not sure how many Arsenal youth products, he brought through.
As you say, the final product is usually the big factor in our league where results are key
Fair enough, maybe my memory is tricking me but I thought those two where France's best players. I do remember that they played England and lost and England had similarly very good players. Marcus Edwards isnt really a scorer but he was brilliant.
It looks we watched the same tournament and I am not crazy, do you agree with the part where I said Mbappé has similar potential at the same age as Henry or Ronaldo?
Those players never rested on their laurels and kept on developing their game.
Mbappe could be them or end up like Balotelli
Balottelli no, only if the kid does not want to be an football player.
My point is, he could be anything he wants or someone who has regrets that he didn't make the best of his talent.
It's as much a mental thing as physical. The lower leagues are littered with players who as Marlon Brando said, " Could have been a contender." instead ended up a bum
Ronaldo was a monster at 18 years old and Trezeguet was a better player than Henry at 18/19 years old. So, no for Ronaldo and yes for Henry but it doesn't really mean much, for all we know Mbappé already reached his potential.
Hmm, I remember Ronaldo at his age, and I think Mbappé is more objective and direct, Ronaldo lost too much time with dribblings, it was how he was teached at Sporting, under Ferguson he needed some time to adjust this part.
What, Ronaldo Fenómeno?I was thinking about the actual Ronaldo not the cheap portuguese version.
No way I would make that one, it was Cristiano who I mentioned, I am not crazy!!!
He was absolutely explosive last night. The finish was emphatic. He reminded me a bit of Rooney when he first burst onto the scene.
If Rooney's going to China, then there are worse replacements out there
If Rooney's going to China, then there are worse replacements out there
Last night was the first time I've seen him play, and he was really impressive. I see shades of the Brazilian Ronaldo, he had that X factor feel about him that only some players have.
He's only young though, at 18 he should stay at Monaco another season at least. I would love for United to buy him based on what I saw, but where would he even play? Martial will hold down the LW, Griezmann is likely to come in to play SS or RW (in that Mata floating role) and Miki will be playing CAM or RW depending on where Griezmann plays. Then up front we have Ibra who I feel will play another season before moving on. Rashford is raw, but 2 seasons to learn from Ibra should help him get ready for playing up front. I don't see a position for Mbappé.
He's only young though, at 18 he should stay at Monaco another season at least. I would love for United to buy him based on what I saw, but where would he even play? Martial will hold down the LW, Griezmann is likely to come in to play SS or RW (in that Mata floating role) and Miki will be playing CAM or RW depending on where Griezmann plays. Then up front we have Ibra who I feel will play another season before moving on. Rashford is raw, but 2 seasons to learn from Ibra should help him get ready for playing up front. I don't see a position for Mbappé.