Depends if someone fancies a move to the premier league, really. I obviously agree that Bayern are a more prestigious club, but Chelsea are forging a name for themselves if we're honest. You seem to imply they're in a different stratosphere - they're not.
Kylian Mbappé | Player Performance Thread
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You're deluded
Until Chelsea are back to competing in CL semi-finals, finals and winning the thing, they are.
I also think a player choosing between the two clubs has to factor whether it's even worth their time to go to a squad as stacked as Bayern's over other club's where they feel they can win a spot in the first xi and have majority playing time. You've got to have serious stones on you to go to a club like Bayern and believe you can usurp a starter, which is an unneccesary uphill battle for some players who would rather make the jump from one club to a superpower once they're established as a superstar in their own right.
If I'm an agent, with the brief of getting my client 1st team football, I don't think I advise them to go to any of the 'Big 3' unless they are extraordinarily talented.
Stay at Monaco and come and team up with him in 18 months time 
Have seen him a few times this season in Ligue 1 and the CL, he is mightily impressive for an 18 year old. Monaco, as a team looked awesome going forward last night against City, shame about the defending though.
Sorry to burst your bubble but Chelsea FC has zero prestige in the eyes of average football fan who doesn't live in England.
Outside England the top 5 in the world are Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, United and Juventus.
Would be all for going for someone like him rather than Griezmann.
We'd be able to move towards a 442 with options of Zlatan, Rashford, Mbappe and Martial to play up front.
We'd be able to move towards a 442 with options of Zlatan, Rashford, Mbappe and Martial to play up front.
Prestige comes mainly from tradition of long lasting success, special players who made history with the club and overall historic squads who left their mark in the history of the game.
Chelsea is still a billionaire's play toy. Very successful one I admit, but to think that prestige comes that quick and that cheap is just being deluded..
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Wrong.
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Wrong. There is no better indicator then sold shirts of how popular and prestigious a club is worldwide...
Biggest 5 worldwide are in that order:
Manchester United, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Chelsea. Nothing Juventus (they are 9th)
I don't measure greatness by shirts, Juventus is bigger than Chelsea, Liverpool is bigger than Chelsea, Milan is bigger than Chelsea.
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I thought this thread was about Mbappe not shirt sales
Anyway, I thought he looks to have outstanding potential but am I the only one who sees Rashford as having similar potential? Mbappe is getting more opportunities in a league that is nowhere near as physical which can only help him develop his skills
Rashford, the same potential?
2 years older and never made nothing similar at international stage...
2 years older and never made nothing similar at international stage...
iirc he scored two against Arsenal and Mancity too last season when deployed as a striker, international stage or not it was against the same level of oponents, just because we havent played in the champins league doesnt mean he has lower potantial, last time he played up top he scored again too..
I am not gonna compare them I dont watch Mbappe but ppl surely overate younsgters from abroad, seems like it's always shinier outside of your team because you see a lot of bad or average games of your players unlike highlights or a couple of games of other players. Both players seem to have a great potantial, it's up to them how they develop, Mbappe seem to have a good starting position as he plays for a minor team where he can get a consistent gametime whereas Rashford might struggle with minutes at least in his preffered position up front, we will see how Mbappé or Dembelé play when they got transfered to Bayern, United, Barca or Real...
The problem is that I know Mbappé since last summer, way before he was being talked here, with his age I can only remember 3 players with this potential, Messi, Ronaldo and Henry, Rashford is not part of that league, good player, but not outstanding player.
Enjoyed seeing him in a more free role last night. Wonder if he moved to a bigger side, he'd get that same freedom to roam. That finish was emphatic.
Just one year difference. But I agree. Mbappe is centuries ahead when it comes to ability on the ball.
Henry didnt have the same potential as Ronaldo and certainly Messi, what do you think about the likes of Gotze, Hazard, Donnarumma, Balotelli, Rooney, Fabregas at similar age? Mbappe isnt clearly better at similar age imo. Still an amazing talent.
You are right one is from 97 and the other 98 but almost 99, nothing against Rashford, but when everyone here was talking about Dembelé I said wait until you see Mbappé, only if he has bad luck with injuries he will not be an top 5 player in the world, in my opinion he should stay in Monaco more 2 years to develop his potential.
That is your opinion, Henry was world champion in 98 with 18/19 years old, Ronaldo was finalist of Euro 2004 with 19 and Messi with 18 was blowing Mourinho Chelsea apart in the Champions League, and comparing Fabregas and Hazard with the same age as Mbappé,only your opinion, ask anybody who scouts young talents in Europe about Mbappé, he is well known way before he played yesterday, only if he has bad luck or leaves for the wrong club at an early age he will not be amongst the best 5 in the world.
I think everyone is getting a bit too excited about this guys, better than martial? The new ronaldo?
Hes 18, years ahead of him but so raw. I think his game play is so different to martial too, martial can and will take a player on and whip in a cross, Mbappe will look to beat the offside trap and use his pass to gain a few yards. I would say Rashford is a closer comparison and at this stage id rather keep Rashford.
Im sure Mbappe will make it in the world of football, he may even be the next new thing but 90m? That is a crazy amount of money for a player we dont need yet. Only one circumstance would want me to get him asap, to beat City to him!
I hope he stays at Monaco and continues his great beginings and who knows, in a few years could be lighting the world up.
He really does need to work on his positioning when beating the offisde trap though.
Hes 18, years ahead of him but so raw. I think his game play is so different to martial too, martial can and will take a player on and whip in a cross, Mbappe will look to beat the offside trap and use his pass to gain a few yards. I would say Rashford is a closer comparison and at this stage id rather keep Rashford.
Im sure Mbappe will make it in the world of football, he may even be the next new thing but 90m? That is a crazy amount of money for a player we dont need yet. Only one circumstance would want me to get him asap, to beat City to him!
I hope he stays at Monaco and continues his great beginings and who knows, in a few years could be lighting the world up.
He really does need to work on his positioning when beating the offisde trap though.
World Champion doesnt refer to your individual potential and ability, Messi was one of the best players around as soon as he debuted basically. Its not about knowing Mbappe, I have seen stuff of him before in youth tournaments, he is star, no doubt but you are exaggerating a bit in my opinion. Fabregas and Hazard were also well known at very young age, Fabregas plahing in the first team aged 16 at Arsenal. Mbappe fits right into that category of special talents imo, not necessarily above.
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Henry was a bit special because even if you could clearly see his talent, he was not very efficient in front of goal until it suddenly fell into place for him at Arsenal in the 2nd half of the first season
Henry only had something like 20 goals in his first 120 League matches. So he was something like 22.5 years old before he started scoring goals, but by then he never stopped doing it.
Henry only had something like 20 goals in his first 120 League matches. So he was something like 22.5 years old before he started scoring goals, but by then he never stopped doing it.
No I am certainly not exaggerating because I know what Ronaldo potential was at his age, actually I know Ronaldo since he played for Sporting since he was 12, and I know Fabregas since he was 15, when he played in an under 17 final against Portugal in 2003, and I know Henry since he played in an Toulon final against Portugal in an front 3 of France who was him, Anelka and Trezeguet, I know very well what I say, only injuries or an wrong decision leaving Monaco too soon will not develop his potential.
True, I wouldnt be surprised either if he turns out to be top 5 soon as he is one of the biggest talents out there. Just dont think he has the same potential as Ronaldo and especially Messi, and not necessarily more then Fabregas, Neymar, Hazard, Gotze, Rooney, Donnarumma, Dembele had/have around the same age.
You seem to have lot of knowledge about Mbappé potential and are pretty confident about his prospect going forward , so according to you what would be his best position in future wing forward or would he transition to being striker .
He is incredibly deluded. From his posts he thinks this Chelsea team is comfortably among top 5 teams ever assembled in any sport.
Yes he has, I know Ronaldo way before he went to Manchester and Mbappé is on that league, it is not only my opinion, it is the opinion of many scouts who know a lot about this, some even say he is better at this age than Henry, I want to wait 1 more year to judge, he needs to stay at least 1 more season at Monaco.
He can make the 3 positions in an front 3, Henry at his age played on the left, he can play on the wings in a front 3, or in an 4/4/2 he can play as an second striker, it is wrong to cut his mobility playing as an classic number 9.
Hopefully Jardim can work him more 1 year if they stay at Monaco, if he goes to England I would say Wenger could be the right person, if he does not stay maybe Guardiola, at this stage Mourinho does not seem to me the right choice for him.
By the sounds of it there will be a mad scramble to sign him this summer. Can't see the big clubs waiting around to see him develop further and risk losing out.
I am talking seriously, if you think that is arrogance maybe it is your problem not mine, just my opinion.
No, I'm asking for few more prospects that you are sure of becoming world beaters, that none of CAFtards know. Going by your posts you have real eye for talent, I'm just asking to share few of them.
So basically you are saying if he doesnt get injured/doesnt make stupid career moves he will fulfill his potential and can be even better than Ronaldo?
Centuries ahead ffs. Get a fecking grip.
This forum is a complete embarrassment when it comes to underrating United players and overrating everyone else.
No, you know I am an simple mortal, maybe it would be better to hear some of your points, maybe I do not know nothing.
By the way I said on early posts that he should stay more 1/2 seasons at Monaco.
Oh, and by the way tell me who is going to be an world beater, tell me everything?
I think Wegner and Arsenal would be awful for him, trying to think of young promising players Wegner has achieved something with in the last 10 years and I can't think of any. Ox and Walcott have regressed something rotten (not that they were ever as high as the Mbappe standard) and continual failures season after season won't help his development either.
At 18 Mbappe has never played for France and has 1 goal in 4 in Europe. His goals to game ratio is in the French league is 0.33.
At age 18 Rashford scored on his debut for England and scored 2 goals in 3 games in Europe. His goals per game ratio in his debut season in the PL was 0.44. He scored twice against Champions League side Arsenal and once against Champions league semi finalists Man City in his debut season, in both games his goals were decisive to securing victory.
If he makes the right options, luck with injuries and has the same mental strength as Ronaldo, why not?