I'd imagine it will take around the same sum or probably 10m more like we paid them for Martial, given that both have similar output at the time and were generally regarded high? Double that is insane at this point.
Kylian Mbappé | Player Performance Thread
- Thread starter MyOnlySolskjaer
- Start date
No, Martial has never been rated as high as Mbappé. They are not in the same division.
Mbappe has scored/assisted 40 goals this season. Martial scored/assisted 17 in the season before we bought him. A massive difference.
Yeah I think he's a much better talent, but double the amount on the back of 6 months? I mean really?
It's not 6 months though, Mbappé has been good from the start of the season but Jardim wanted to protect him after a concussion. But he was playing wide for the most part and was pretty good. He also started his career last year and he was one of the only attacking bright lights with Lemar.
You have to consider the market inflation. Monaco's reasoning will be that we paid 50-60m (however much per goal, or whatever fecking deal Ed made) for Martial, and Mbappe is wanted by every top club in Europe. We also just paid a world record fee for Pogba.
If we don't sign Mbappe (and I don't think we will), he'll move to Real or Barca, and it'll be for at least 90m-100m. For us, that price would be closer to £120m. An 18 year old contributing to 40 goals in half a season (he was a substitute for the first half) against some elite European teams, is absolutely phenomenal. Makes 18 year old Rooney look ordinary on a pure statistical basis. The guy is putting up Messi type numbers.
Thank you. Some people just want to argue for the sake of it.
You could have saved all that time you typed up your post by reading my post again. I am not comparing an 18 year old to experienced players for this season, I specifically mentioned "if put in the correct situation" he has the "potential" to reach far greater heights. As for this season, he's not too bad at what he does at the age of 18, that is stick the ball in the back of the net.
You missed the part about "If and can" and about "potential". Also, Ballon d'Or is very debatable after Ronaldo and Messi.
Absolutely right. If he goes to Real Madrid, Barcelona(very unlikely), City or Chelsea, do people see those clubs sending him to United if and when he reaches his potential? Had discussions similar to this before Neymar joined Barcelona.
If he fulfills his potential, he will be far out of our reach by then. I don't mean money wise, but by the club he would have joined already. If his preference is Real Madrid as reported, he may already be out of our reach.
You were trying to argue why we prioritise him over Griezmann, the finished article. You don't pay 100m for pure potential which is what Mbappe is.
Mbappé is not only potential, he's already one of the very best European players of 2017 young or not, he should no doubt make the shortlist of 2017 Ballon d'Or.
Agreed. The difference between Mbappe and other talented young players is that he already plays like an experienced player, his decision making is spot on. He's not a guaranteed success but no player is a guaranteed success so it's a moot point.
Not really, there is such a big gulf between the two monsters and Griezmann. So much that M'Bappé can reach a clear higher level than Griezmann without getting close to them. For them it's not about about 1 season on top of the world like Griezmann (he will unlikely ever reach a top 3 Ballon d'Or level IMHO), they have been at it for a decade.
No point in trying to discuss something with someone who either cannot read, or understand what was written.
Yeah because AS Roma, Inter, Napoli are that good. Juventus win the league every year with or without Pogba. Pjanic has replaced him easily. He was never by any means the best midfielder in the world, maybe tbe best longshot taker and the most skillful midfielder (even in that, Thiago is probably better).
One season doesn't make a world record transfer fee. Let's see how he fares in his 2nd year before drinking the GOAT koolaid.
Only reason I compared him to Cisse was because Cisse also had half a season where he was world class, not because they're similar in any way
certainly looks like he is smashing it. I hear they call him 'le phénomène' over there
Ah cmon dude there's a difference between just having a purple patch and being a genuinely great striker. People said the same about Harry Kane, bet they wish we paid the 30m now!
I'm not sure what more you want from a striker? His movement is fantastic, finishing is very clinical, add in his superb dribbling and blistering pace. He's an absolute dream!
Who do you think Monaco are more likely to sell this Summer out of their attacking players? Silva, Mbappe or Lemar? Think all three of them will generate a lot of interest based on successful season.
Well we've signed Pogba so I won't rule us out of the race. It does seem that he's more Real bound especially with Ronaldo aging.
Exactly... totally agree. But what is GOAT Koolaid?? Haha
I don't know what the players want and I believe that it's the main variable but if I were to guess, Bernardo Silva.
I don't want anything more from him, but I want him to prove his ability for longer than five months before we break the world record fee for him.
Well one should wait another season before going big money for him. But he has impressed as much as one possibly can in one season. Doubt we will get him or if we are in a position to spend so much one a young striker right now. To reduce risk and keeping in mind where we are, it's prudent to go for a more experienced striker even though that means that we lose out on a potential superstar.
Thing is other clubs might not wait around.
Depends on whether or not a world record fee is required to sign him. If they require say £50-60m then I wouldn't have any issues with it. If they require more than 89m pounds then no club is going to buy him this summer. The only club that could potentially be crazy enough to do it is Man Utd.
http://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2017/05/18/591dc39e46163f582d8b4575.html
marca think we've bid 75m euro for him.
No way he comes here, pretty surprised we actually tried for him though. Although the source is dubious.
marca think we've bid 75m euro for him.No way he comes here, pretty surprised we actually tried for him though. Although the source is dubious.
His goal vs St Etienne and the kinda goals the Brazilian Ronaldo was famous for. A ridiculous calmness in front of keepers in 1v1s in which he'd often skip past them to score in empty goals. He looks nothing like Henry in terms of style for me.
We simply aren't in a position to take a risk of this magnitude, the other clubs are. We're talking about potentially half of our transfer budget going to one player's transfer.
No one knows what the transfer budget is or if there is even one.
Cheers
