Kylian Mbappé | Player Performance Thread

Surely this summer there will be many applicants for his signing. I would like for Madrid but we can not sign them all.

Who do you think will sign him? I think he will leave this summer, although staying another season would be good for him.
 
Warren Buffet once said he prefer investing his money in a pesimistic market cause he like the prices pessimism breeds. Mbappe this summer will be quite the opposite with him and Monaco being "in the zone".

While being efficient and converting chances is a good sign for a striker, its unlikely that he will keep it up for a longer period. Right now he has a conversion rate close to 30 %. In ten years it will be around twenty percent (IF he lives up to the hype). Since 2009 Messi is at 21 %, Lewandowski 18-20 % etc.

The convertion rate, combined with Monaco creating lots of chances, helps build a huge hype. Monaco should consider selling him this summer.
This is a good point about the conversion rate, and goes a decent way to explaining why some are so bemused at Rashford's downfall. Last season I'm pretty sure he was on an insane rate of close to 40/50% of shots being goals - wasn't one stat until about his 8th or 9th goal, that every shot on target was a goal? Both of these players are incredible talents and the ability is plain to see but it's obvious the fall down to Earth will happen at some point.
 
Who do you think will sign him? I think he will leave this summer, although staying another season would be good for him.
I have no idea Ovoxo. I imagine all the great teams will be interested in him. He still can increase a lot his market appeal until the end of the season.
I hope that being a big fan of Cristiano(and maybe Zidane) and the fact that he already tried in our academy will give us some points, but only in the case that Barça bid, if not, He should stay a bit longer in France
 
In 2006 Messi was one of the best players in the world?
Actually yes, he was.

So is mbappé though. Not sure he's quite messi level tho

Btw, i was thinking we should let him stay another season there and grow but feck that, i want him now. Bring him home Floren
 
I would stay at Monaco next season if I were him. He's playing games as part of an exciting team, and more importantly, he is being man managed correctly.

I like that they're not overly reliant on him due to the good form of Falcao and Germain this season. He's not being run into the ground.
 
This is a good point about the conversion rate, and goes a decent way to explaining why some are so bemused at Rashford's downfall. Last season I'm pretty sure he was on an insane rate of close to 40/50% of shots being goals - wasn't one stat until about his 8th or 9th goal, that every shot on target was a goal? Both of these players are incredible talents and the ability is plain to see but it's obvious the fall down to Earth will happen at some point.

The difference being that the hype around Mbappé had nothing to do with goals but about his contribution to Monaco's game. That's why he was considered like a potential starter in August.
 
Actually yes, he was.

So is mbappé though. Not sure he's quite messi level tho

Btw, i was thinking we should let him stay another season there and grow but feck that, i want him now. Bring him home Floren
:lol: We have had several summers of drought, so maybe you are right, we need Florentino to spoil us a little
 
One certainly for the future but wouldn't be surprised to see him struggle next season much the way Martial and Coman have this year

He'll be in demand this summer but I would hope he stays at Monaco
 
He goes to the highest bidder this summer, he's a bit too young and there's enough of his contract left that there's no reason to sell him to us or Madrid if City outbid us all.
Monaco would just keep him, sort of like Martial a few summers ago.
I hope he's close friends with Paul and Martial!
 
The difference being that the hype around Mbappé had nothing to do with goals but about his contribution to Monaco's game. That's why he was considered like a potential starter in August.
Of course, and that's why Mbappe is considered the bigger talent. But it is inevitable at some point when he does leave, or next season even if he stays that the insane rate he is scoring at right now will dry up to an extent.
 
Of course, and that's why Mbappe is considered the bigger talent. But it is inevitable at some point when he does leave, or next season even if he stays that the insane rate he is scoring at right now will dry up to an extent.

Well yes, but that'll also have to do with the fact that he'll probably never, ever play in a team as free-scoring as his current team is. What this Monaco team is doing goal-wise this season is a generational achievement.
 
Of course, and that's why Mbappe is considered the bigger talent. But it is inevitable at some point when he does leave, or next season even if he stays that the insane rate he is scoring at right now will dry up to an extent.

Of course, I'm just precising that the hype isn't about the goals, the hype was there before the goals.
 
Well yes, but that'll also have to do with the fact that he'll probably never, ever play in a team as free-scoring as his current team is. What this Monaco team is doing goal-wise this season is a generational achievement.
They scored 2 more goals than us this season and played 13 games more. And that's just us, and this season. Barcelona have scored more then them already

In fact, with their 3 goals today, they are now on 129 goals scored in 85 games. Barcelona have scored 129 in 77. We scored 124 in 71

What monaco are doing this season is what real madrid and barcelona have been doing for the past 7-8 years
 
They scored 2 more goals than us this season and played 13 games more. And that's just us, and this season. Barcelona have scored more then them already

It's crazy that in March we are still comparing Monaco to Barcelona or Real Madrid.
 
They scored 2 more goals than us this season and played 13 games more. And that's just us, and this season. Barcelona have scored more then them already

In fact, with their 3 goals today, they are now on 129 goals scored in 85 games. Barcelona have scored 129 in 77. We scored 124 in 71

What monaco are doing this season is what real madrid and barcelona have been doing for the past 7-8 years

Yeah nevermind the games played :lol::lol: my bad

It's actually 44 for us, 45 for barca, and 48 for monaco
 
He's better than Martial?
For me, yes. Not just because of the 'grass is greener on the other side argument'.

His mentality seems to be better and he seems to have a lot more to his game than Martial. Martial's finishing instincts are wavering slowly and his off the ball movement is subpar. Mbappe's dribbling seems a bit more kick and rush to me than Martial's though who is an excellent dribbler who keeps the ball glued to his feet.

Of course though, we can't really judge until Mbappe leaves Monaco. That will be the real task.

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I should add I don't think there is much between them though. Mbappe is playing for a better side than ours for sure and is reaping the rewards of an attack that is fast, constantly interchanging and very deadly.
 
He's better than Martial?

Tough to say given the difference in leagues the 2 are playing in atm, let alone the attacking verve of Monaco compared to us. We really are a very tough team to shine in for attackers.
 
Tough to say given the difference in leagues the 2 are playing in atm, let alone the attacking verve of Monaco compared to us. We really are a very tough team to shine in for attackers.

Ya its a tough one when you take form into consideration. All things being equal he looks to be more direct and a better finisher but Martial definitely better in terms of dribbling and control. I want both to be honest :devil:
 
Mbappe is generally considered a better talent than Martial tbf. That's why I did say in some thread that Martial isn't Ballon d'Or material. He's extremely talented but there are better around his generation. France is producing world class attacking talents left right and center right now.
 
Ya its a tough one when you take form into consideration. All things being equal he looks to be more direct and a better finisher but Martial definitely better in terms of dribbling and control. I want both to be honest :devil:
Oh yes :drool:
Mbappe is generally considered a better talent than Martial tbf. That's why I did say in some thread that Martial isn't Ballon d'Or material. He's extremely talented but there are better around his generation. France is producing world class attacking talents left right and center right now.
That has a lot to do with this being his breakthrough season imo. The media/fans love a shiny new toy. Martial was considered Ballon D or material last year, now Mbappe is considered the bigger talent.
 
Ya its a tough one when you take form into consideration. All things being equal he looks to be more direct and a better finisher but Martial definitely better in terms of dribbling and control. I want both to be honest :devil:
Oh yes :drool:
Mbappe is generally considered a better talent than Martial tbf. That's why I did say in some thread that Martial isn't Ballon d'Or material. He's extremely talented but there are better around his generation. France is producing world class attacking talents left right and center right now.
That has a lot to do with this being his breakthrough season imo. The media/fans love a shiny new toy. Martial was considered Ballon D or material last year, now Mbappe is considered the bigger talent.
 
That has a lot to do with this being his breakthrough season imo. The media/fans love a shiny new toy. Martial was considered Ballon D or material last year, now Mbappe is considered the bigger talent.

Also Martial plays for big, bad Man United - one of the most hated clubs. All the fanboys out there love players from Dortmund, Monaco, Atletico etc. As you rightly said, the shiny new toy thing plays a part also.

If Mbappé signs for a big club, many will start the 'overrated' rants due to hate. Viscous circle.
 
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That has a lot to do with this being his breakthrough season imo. The media/fans love a shiny new toy. Martial was considered Ballon D or material last year, now Mbappe is considered the bigger talent.

It's linked to Mbappé being a far superior player at youth level and being a far superior player in Ligue 1. They are too young to make those facts matter but that's the facts at the moment.
 
It's linked to Mbappé being a far superior player at youth level and being a far superior player in Ligue 1. They are too young to make those facts matter but that's the facts at the moment.
Don't really know much about their respective youth team performances but I agree about Mbappe's performances in the league for Monaco being superior to what martial produced for them. On the other hand, what martial produced last year for us was really special too. That's why I'm torn on really saying who's the bigger talent, too many variables imo.
 
Don't really know much about their respective youth team performances but I agree about Mbappe's performances in the league for Monaco being superior to what martial produced for them. On the other hand, what martial produced last year for us was really special too. That's why I'm torn on really saying who's the bigger talent, too many variables imo.

I'd agree with this. Let's wait and see Mbappé do it in a proper league, which I hope he does.
 
I'd agree with this. Let's wait and see Mbappé do it in a proper league, which I hope he does.

It's tiring to read this type of posts over and over. Every year that league that is apparently not a proper one gives proper players to the apparently proper leagues.
 
It's tiring to read this type of posts over and over. Every year that league that is apparently not a proper one gives proper players to the apparently proper leagues.

It's obviously a much weaker league by some distance. Just like the Brazilian league is weaker even though they produce great players.
 
It's tiring to read this type of posts over and over. Every year that league that is apparently not a proper one gives proper players to the apparently proper leagues.
Agreed. And in his case it doesn't even make any sense to say something like that, as he's been equally as good in the CL.
 
He's a great talent but our fans keep making the same mistake of assuming you can buy a player, slot them into our team, and have them perform at the same level they were performing at pre-transfer.

We need to stop thinking that the answer is always another transfer and work to improve the shape and footballing philosophy of the team.
 
He's a great talent but our fans keep making the same mistake of assuming you can buy a player, slot them into our team, and have them perform at the same level they were performing at pre-transfer.

We need to stop thinking that the answer is always another transfer and work to improve the shape and footballing philosophy of the team.
This
 
It's obviously a much weaker league by some distance. Just like the Brazilian league is weaker even though they produce great players.

It's the fifth league in the world, yes it's a weaker league but that's not a shite league.
 
Hazard, Martial and Kante all came from that weak league.

People are just intentionally stupid.

You are wasting your time.

Intentionally stupid?

The French league is a weak league, this is backed up by the UEFA coefficient. Is that stupid too?

Did I say good players can't come from the French league? No.
 
It's the fifth league in the world, yes it's a weaker league but that's not a shite league.

It's a much weaker league, compared to the top 3 leagues it is relatively shite. The gap is huge. Just because they produce good players does not mean it's a good league.