He was the best player in a Shakhtar who had Alex Teixeira, Willian, Fernandinho and Douglas Costa.
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He was the best player in a Shakhtar who had Alex Teixeira, Willian, Fernandinho and Douglas Costa.
Never heard of him before this Summer. I don't watch Dortmund and I don't watch Armenia. And I don't play Fifa or FM
Have you seen him play a lot?
I always remember how heavily linked he was with Liverpool before opting for Dortmund in the first place
The article sounds hopeful. And totally made up.
No disrespect to Dotmund, but why has he yet to play for a major club at 27?
Not saying that makes him a bad player, just wondering as I'd genuinely not know
Dortmund is a major club.
If true that we've bid £28m plus bonuses, surely it's got to be a done deal?
I mean, it makes no sense to bid £19m, get a no, and then immediately slap €15m onto that. If we were testing their resolve, surely the bidding process would've been a bit more incremental? Makes me think that Dortmund have named their price and that we've matched it. Assuming that the reports on the bid are correct, that is.
I mean, it makes no sense to bid £19m, get a no, and then immediately slap €15m onto that. If we were testing their resolve, surely the bidding process would've been a bit more incremental? Makes me think that Dortmund have named their price and that we've matched it. Assuming that the reports on the bid are correct, that is.
Dortmund are a major club but I see what you mean. He is around Willian level, massive clubs don't put a lot of money on these players and he played for clubs that don't need money.
Me neither.
But Mkhitaryan is one of those players who you don't need FM to know about unless you don't follow any league outside the PL.
I've seen a lot both under klopp and Tuchel as well as Chelsea's game against Shakhtar in the CL.
As others have already mentioned, Dortmund is one of the top clubs in Europe.
How would you rate him/ describe him? In the Willian ilk as JPRouve said?
Also lots describing him as a 'winger' but someone else I know who has watched him a bit says he is more an attacking midfielder or behind the striker?
The Mirror report will just be guess work, I don't think I've seen them report a correct transfer story before anyone else. If we have a bid accepted every paper will report it within minutes of each other.
£28 mill plus add ons sounds about right for a player of his quality. And a steal if we compare it to Deeney's £30 mill bid by Leicester.
Star running with it too. Im guessing more will follow tonight.
Both quote sources close to negotiations so obviously they've been briefed.
Both quote sources close to negotiations so obviously they've been briefed.
He is an attacking midfielder, he can play wide and will do great but not as winger more like Van der Vaart when he played wide.
Edit: With pace and quickness.
I think this will be done by the mid July.
Why i think this will be done?
Because it makes sense for Dortmund to get as much money for him as they can and buy a replacement. They wont risk losing him for nothing. Yes they did exactly that with Lewandowski but this was totally different case. Lewa was only interested in Bayern and Bayern never offered the money Dortmund asked. Also they are rivals, already sold them Goetze and what made Dortmund decide that they will use him for one more season was that Lewa was prepared to play as good as he can even in his last season there. Dortmund even gave him pay raise for that last season if I am not mistaken. On the other hand Micki have a history of bad attitude when club is not willing to sell him and they will not risk with that. And there are also Raiola who always give his client what he want and Woodward who is more often than not prepared to spend as much as he have to to get the player our manager wants.
Why by mid July?
Because Dortmund never sell late and they will want to get this thing done before pre-season and also we have a manager who likes to do the business early.
Why i think this will be done?
Because it makes sense for Dortmund to get as much money for him as they can and buy a replacement. They wont risk losing him for nothing. Yes they did exactly that with Lewandowski but this was totally different case. Lewa was only interested in Bayern and Bayern never offered the money Dortmund asked. Also they are rivals, already sold them Goetze and what made Dortmund decide that they will use him for one more season was that Lewa was prepared to play as good as he can even in his last season there. Dortmund even gave him pay raise for that last season if I am not mistaken. On the other hand Micki have a history of bad attitude when club is not willing to sell him and they will not risk with that. And there are also Raiola who always give his client what he want and Woodward who is more often than not prepared to spend as much as he have to to get the player our manager wants.
Why by mid July?
Because Dortmund never sell late and they will want to get this thing done before pre-season and also we have a manager who likes to do the business early.
I don't rate Willian, who I consider nothing more than a workhorse. Others may disagree, but that's my view on Willian.
Mkhitaryan isn't a typical winger. But he'd his best season while he's played out wide last season. He's one of those players who can play both centrally and out side. Think about Mata but someone more rapid.
I wouldn't call him a good dribbler but he's better than Mata. He's a genuine goal threat although he does miss a lot. He can be lethal in a counter attacking set up which bodes well for us if we do sign him. His defensive contribution has also improved.
Edit: He's 27, just had his best season, so we're signing him at his peak which is another plus point.
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Mail now in on the act.
Briefing confirmed.
Briefing confirmed.
He's best at #10 IMO. He is certainly a Mourinho type #10 - hard working, has pace, can beat a man but not something spectacular of a dribbler, he goes into the free space and runs into channels usually. Wouldn't call him good finisher tho, especially the season before he was excellent at missing chances.
He's a bit similar to Kagawa for me both in his game and in his dribbling, passing and moving into space.
He's more of a creator than finisher, that's for sure, but also needs a similar setup to Dortmund if he's expected to reach the same level.
I don't think he'll make it better than Kagawa did to be honest.
Seems club is desperate to conclude a deal before preseason. Incidentally, Dortmund is our first game.
There are reports that are sourced to this article from The Times where it is supposedly claimed that United are ready to give up on Mikhitaryan. Can somebody with a subscription please peruse the article and report back?
It doesn't say we are ready to give up. Just that we fear Dortmund will stand firm and even if hey cave, it could be late in the window.
Anyway, several outlets reporting we have made another bid.
United willing to pay £20m (are we living in 2008 still or summat?), supposed admission from club figures that transfer unlikely as we don't believe Dortmund are bluffing about refusing any approach.
Whenever I see him play for Dortmund, he always seems to get a truckload of chances to score and he also always ends up wasting them all. Not a bad player but I will be worried about this if he comes here.
His agent sounds like a right knob-head, he's almost putting me off the deal
23 goals in all comps and he's a bad finisher?
Not that I place too much credence in such things, but Dortmund are ranked the 8th best club in the UEFA coefficients. Manchester United are currently 20th. By all possible measures Dortmund are a major club
23 goals in all comps and he's a bad finisher?
Bit more modest when you see that it's 11 in the bundesliga or 1 in 3.
For the purpose of stat padding you could use Europa League qualifying ties against some Norwegian team in which Dortmund scored 11 goals but at least the Bundesliga can somewhat be used as a level to gauge him.
He is far better than willian. Willian is a bit overrated regardless of how good is was at chelsea lasts season.
Why did Mourinho jump at the chance to spend £30m on him then? He was clearly one of his favourite players at Chelsea too. If Chelsea were willing to sell and Willian was willing to go then I think Mourinho would choose him over Mick any day.
Reckon anything approaching double figure would be a good goal return in the league. Doesn't seem like much on the surface, but the more important aspects of Mkhitaryan at United will be his versatility, defensive workrate, and clever interplay (which was a key facet of Dortmund under Tuchel - with Aubameyang stretching the field, Reus/Mkhitaryan switching flanks on the occasion, and Kagawa drifting into pockets of space and linking up with everyone). As long as he fits into Mourinho's tactical plan, the raw statistical returns will take a backseat, because his best teams hold true to the 'sum = greater than the parts' adage, and Mkhitaryan could be a vital could in that overall machinery.
Also, just to sample the goal returns of some of his wide-ish players over the years - Pandev scored 2 league goals when Internazionale won the treble as the wide forward who tracked back, Di María's highest return was 7, 2 for Willian when Chelsea won the league, and 6 for Duff when they set the record for points at the end of the season. Stylistically, there's a lot of variance in those players, but traditionally: José uses asymmetrical flanks, and Mkhitaryan would probably be the more creative, but defensively astute outlet to Martial's inward drifting wide goalscorer.
Really intrigued by his usage at United, could be a real tactical chess-piece with his ability to play as the right/left sided attacker, or the #10 - and his link-up play could elevate our style to another level if we combine him with movement based like-minded players (Kagawa at Dortmund). Not many will agree with this - but he's kinda like a watered down version of maybe Nedvěd - in that he's quite hard-working, can shoot effectively from distance, two footed, and can play in all offensive positions behind the striker - apart from the out-and-out winger position where his crossing ability pales in comparison with Nedvěd's. Nowhere near him in terms of overall quality, of course, but just in terms of common elements in their game.
If Martial ups his work-rate, the dynamic between him and Mkhitaryan would be quite similar to Eto'o/Pandev at Internazionale, where both players made sacrifices and harried opposition players off the ball for the greater good of the team:
Mkhitaryan does some of that at Dortmund too:
Paper talk. We don't know if that is true?
Alternatively, he could also be the Sneijder/Oscar:
How is it paper talk? He did spend £30m on signing him for Chelsea, he obviously rates him very highly.
wouldn't mind signing one of the Bonucci bro's.Alternatively, he could also be the Sneijder/Oscar:
http://www.armsport.am/hy/news/2016/06/20/Բորուսիան-մերժել-է-Մխիթարյանի/719943
Դորտմունդի «Բորուսիան» մերժել է Հայաստանի հավաքականի կիսապաշտպան Հենրիխ Մխիթարյանին ձեռք բերելու անգլիական «Մանչեսթեր Յունայթեդի» առաջարկը:
Մանչեսթերցիները 27-ամյա ֆուտբոլիստի համար առաջարկել են 25 մլն եվրո: Իր հերթին դորտմունդցիներն ակնկալում են Հենրիխի վաճառքից ստանալ 40 մլն եվրո:
Հաղորդվում է, որ «Բորուսիան» որպես փոխարինող Մխիթարյանին դիտարկում է Գերմանիայի հավաքականի կիսապաշտպան Անդրե Շյուրլեի թեկնածությունը:
Basically says that Dortmund want 40 and rejected a 25 million euro bid from us, Dortmund will also try to get Schurrle in as a backuo.
Դորտմունդի «Բորուսիան» մերժել է Հայաստանի հավաքականի կիսապաշտպան Հենրիխ Մխիթարյանին ձեռք բերելու անգլիական «Մանչեսթեր Յունայթեդի» առաջարկը:
Մանչեսթերցիները 27-ամյա ֆուտբոլիստի համար առաջարկել են 25 մլն եվրո: Իր հերթին դորտմունդցիներն ակնկալում են Հենրիխի վաճառքից ստանալ 40 մլն եվրո:
Հաղորդվում է, որ «Բորուսիան» որպես փոխարինող Մխիթարյանին դիտարկում է Գերմանիայի հավաքականի կիսապաշտպան Անդրե Շյուրլեի թեկնածությունը:
Basically says that Dortmund want 40 and rejected a 25 million euro bid from us, Dortmund will also try to get Schurrle in as a backuo.
What language is that? That's incredibly tough to read and all letters look like a bunch of 'n's to me
Armenian.
It looks so beautiful, like something out if LotR.
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