De Bruyne won Germany player of the year last season, and you just put him in the 'not very impressive' list - what make the award more substantial this time around?
Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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De Bruyne was one of the best players in Europe last year and he wasn't now (mostly because of the injuries). That's my take on it. They are very similar, actually, I wouldn't call either of them a top talent, but both are absolutely lethal and provide lots of end product (while their general play isn't that impressive)
god I hate that agent, even when on our side
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This is ON like Donkey Kong.
Just wasted 1 of my 5 daily posts there, but hey, it was worth it.
Just wasted 1 of my 5 daily posts there, but hey, it was worth it.
Kagawa was Bundes liga player of the season before he joined us
The only question that should matter to any of us is whether he's good enough. In this case the answer is a resounding 'yes'. Ultimately who really cares what the fee is.
Isn't moving for free at the end of your contract a bosman?
Mahrez won player of the year
jokes on you bud, Mahrez won PFA POTY, Vardy won Premier POTY
Yeah but Hummels didn't leave for free. It was about 38m euros Bayern had to pay for him
Yes, so hummels wasn't that I meant.
Never seen him play. Is he any good?
Woodward? Is that you?
I really hope we're not going to actually pay 40m for a decent player with one year to go on his contract. We need to be a proper club in the transfer market again. We should have 3 or 4 targets ready for each position we want to fill. When we get asked ridiculous amounts of money, we should just move on to the next target. No more clowning around please.
He's no Troy Deeney.
We will always be asked for ridiculous money and if we don't pay up we'll see the player go to another club for less a few days later
Troy Deeney's price tag is £30m. Prices have inflated, £40m for Mkhitaryan in relativity to current prices is a very good price. You say we need to be a proper club again and that we need 3/4 targets per position but I don't think you've realised that he has had one of the best seasons in Europe. There are very limited options out there, who would you go for? All the top class RWs and #10s are already at the big clubs. There is basically no one who is a PROVEN talent that we could go for and our team currently lacks a lot of experience.
We're going to be asked ridiculous prices for whoever we try to sign, especially with being united and being in the PL with the current influx of money. I'd rather we overpay on our 1st choice and get it done early than end up overpaying on our 4th choice and getting andros townsend for 20m on deadline day or something.
We will always be asked for ridiculous money and if we don't pay up we'll see the player go to another club for less a few days later
My point exactly. Clubs around the world need to know that we will pay the fair price for the player. No more no less. We have been irresponsible in the past, offering clubs whatever they ask for any player. This is only making it more difficult for us in the transfer market.
Troy Deeney's price tag is not reflective of the entire transfer market. For one thing, no one actually paid that much for him. If Watford turns around and asks 60m for Deeney, should we pay 100m for Mkhitaryan?
There are some players that would transform a team. RVP was one. Bale would be that kind of player(not that I am saying we can buy him). I understand paying over the odds for a player that will instantly make us a title challenger, but in my opinion Mkhitaryan isn't that type of player.
Kagawa was NEVER POTY in Bundesliga, but people posting this nonsense over and over again. Reus won the award that year.
You have no idea if any of this is true.
If you think Mkhitaryan isn't good enough, then fair enough. If you think he is good enough, the price isn't worth worrying about.
We don't get football on TV in Japan.
Mkhitaryan is a quality player, no doubt about that with a very fine technique, being able to find spaces roaming around a lot and being very versatile. The only problem I see with him is his mentality. He has made the impression, that he is very sensitive and needs to feel the total trust of his coach. Tuchel is a master in that having a high degree of empathy and he was able to get the most out of him. Klopp is very open too, but he was not able to have such a close connection to him like Tuchel had.
Mourinho is a total different beast though. He is known to push his players hard and demanding absolute winner mentality and giving 100%..always. I dont doubt the working rate or the commitment of Miki, but I m not sure, if he can deal with the high pressure and a coach, who cannot afford to lose thus giving little room for errors.
The chances for him succeeding at United should be higher though. He is just too good and has the perfect age to succeed.
Mourinho is a total different beast though. He is known to push his players hard and demanding absolute winner mentality and giving 100%..always. I dont doubt the working rate or the commitment of Miki, but I m not sure, if he can deal with the high pressure and a coach, who cannot afford to lose thus giving little room for errors.
The chances for him succeeding at United should be higher though. He is just too good and has the perfect age to succeed.
Scout Nation videos are the worst. Highly annoying intro music and the highlights don't start until 45 seconds into the clip.
Care to make a prediction ?
You mean I have no idea if we've been irresponsible? I am surprised that there would be someone who would think otherwise. I thought I was making a pretty factual statement. But fair enough if you disagree.
I think he's good enough to play for us. So are Mane, Sane, Mahrez etc. We are a bit average right now and all players that are above average would be good enough for us right now but I still wouldn't want us to pay the unreasonable asking price for Mkhitaryan.
I hear a lot of the "transfer market is inflated now and we must pay silly price for players now". Well obviously it is inflated and we(along with City and PSG) are part of the reason why it is inflated. We broke the British transfer record for Di Maria, a player much like Mkhitaryan who wasn't much of a match winner on his own. We inflate the market and then complain about it too.
Anyway, this was my 5th post of the day. Newbie out!
It kind of is. If Watford can reject £30m for an average player, it sends the message to others from other leagues that even the smallest clubs in the BPL have A LOT of money now. This means that they can charge us more, because we have more money than most other clubs. So yeah if Deeney was sold for 60 naturally a player who is better (Mkhitaryan) would deffo cost more. It's inflation, if there is more money to spend and other clubs know that they they will charge us more.
Sterling, for example, cost about £50m pounds and is not even fully developed. If Mkhitaryan cost £40m that would be a great price in relativity to his price.
There is also the fact that Mkhitaryan is a player that is rare in the current market. If you think about it there are very few players who are in their peak years, experienced, quick, fast, creative, versatile, prolific and doesn't play for one of the HUGE clubs. Therefore, logically his price is inflated. Just like diamonds and gold being incredibly rare, therefore costing more. It makes sense.
Impressive highlights as a no. 10.
There is the possibility, that Dortmund want to make an example out of that case and being stubborn and refusing to sell. If I would need to make a decision, then I think in the end he is going to move to United, cos Raiola wont stop until he gets his wish and its a long time until September. Dortmund can be very stubborn, but at some point they will be so annoyed, that a move is the only solution. Keeping in mind the way Mkhitaryan forced his way to Dortmund when coming from Shakhtar.
I very much doubt, that Dortmund would sell below 40m€.
Sounds like we'll do a Fellaini and wait until deadline day for this one.
Answer why is below.
Which is completely understandable.
It's quite pathetic the way that Bayern steal the best players from the only team that has anywhere near the capacity to compete with them.
Pathetic.
We will get our man. He has one year on his contract. BVB are not in a strong bargaining position.
We will pay roughly what Bayern paid for Hummels, I expect.
jokes on you bud, Mahrez won PFA POTY, Vardy won Premier POTY
Didn't even know that was a rhing and apparently united players win it all the time!
Why?
Lewa was one of the very few available strikers and is one of the best strikers in the world. Not to mention it was free and he was used to the league? It would have been stupid not to take him.
With Gotze he looked the real deal. He's German, one of the best #10s in the league at the time and looked incredibly promising and easily attainable at a great price. Again would you have turned him down then?
With Hummels, again he is German and is off the back off one of his best seasons in a while. He suits the possession style they've not implemented to the tee, he is used to the league and Boateng due and they need a CB.
I don't understand why it is 'pathetic' to sign some of the best players in the world at their positions for great prices, that suit their style and the league? All of those players were needed as well. They've had to play Alaba and Kimmich at CB at times during the year. They brought in quality players that improved their team at great prices. It's not pathetic at all, it's actually very good business done by a great club improving their team even further. If United could buy Alli, Dier, Kane, Hazard, Aguero or whoever (while they were playing great) it'd be seen as great business if it was the same scenario. That is because it would be great business, not 'pathetic'
Can a kind Cafe person sum up the latest on this or is purely just rumours? Who exactly has the official statement from his agent or is it just gossip?
Is it weird that I don't like Raiola or his actions despite the fact that I want the player to join? He needs to shut up and try to find a solution.
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