They are selling to direct rivals. I reckon the fee will always be higher. Bayern probably through in an extra few bucks to get things done quickly.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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I obviously didn't see Wigan play last season, but having seen Northern Ireland at the Euros, I really want us to sign Will Grigg just for the chant. Seeing as that will never happen, can we just steal the chant?
*Henrikh's on fire
He's got defences terrified
Henrikh's on fire...*
*Henrikh's on fire
He's got defences terrified
Henrikh's on fire...*
Not really. The player will be on a free then, so he'll get his transfer this year or the next. At worst they can make him more into a second choice, but injuries, fatigue and form will still let him play a fair few games.
Maybe that's the case, but at the same time you could argue that generally speaking defenders cost less than midfielders and that Mkhitaryan is more important to them than Hummels, not just because of his performance for them but also because they already sold two important players this summer and thus the downside of a sale would be higher.
And don't forget that it isn't really important what's a fair sum from United's point of view. He is still contracted to Dortmund so their evaluation of a possible deal is the only thing that's going to matter.
And you think a shitty season won't affect the offers he's going to get? And as I've already said it's not like he built his reputation with a string of good seasons that could possibly excuse a bad one.
sign him on a pre-contract in January and spend the money on somebody else... give him a bonus if he can tap up Reus, Aubamyang, Weigel etc
We need him or a similar player now.
Im presuming our scouting network is good enough that they have watched a few options in each position though so spend the money there and sign him on a free / pre contract in Jan
What makes you think he won't get any offers? As of now we know he got an offer from us, and we suspect he has gotten one from Arsenal. Saying none of the top clubs will go for him on a free transfer just because he might get less playing time for one season when it's widely known why seems naive.
If you automatically think he'll have a Shit season, then why should we buy him at all?
Have seen him intermittently. Is quite solid in the attacking midfield role, has good speed and good movement. Almost like a second striker really. Maybe Jose prefers him to Mata?
Hmm, no. Only when we sell him for less than 40 Mio €. It just has to be a fee like that one for Hummels.
I don't think you get my point. If Dortmund are keeping him they are going to do that with the intention to use him as an integral part of their team. My post was in response to people saying something along the lines of "can't keep him if he want's to leave".
It'd be nice if people stopped referring to Dortmund as a small club. They're not lads. They don't bend over to Munich either. There seems to be a consensus here that they won't deal with us. Newsflash, they will 'if' we pay what they want. Wouldn't we want Ed to do that for us. I admire them, while a lot of people here are quick to shoot them down. Have a bit of class lads. This transfer will be concluded, no doubt. If we pay what they want. It's very hard to find able replacements these days. Seems to be a dearth of quality players around/available. If i was them, i'd in no way want to lose my best performing player of the season just gone. Their stance is totally acceptable. I do think it'll happen, but it will take another 3/4 weeks to get it done. This one will require patience.
Thank you. Exactly mu point
Ahh. On that I suppose it's down to how the player acts. If he is professional and sees that Dortmund won't change their mind, its something they absolutely can do. If he'll act up its still not going to end up with him having no offers from top clubs, as he is in his prime and his next contract will be in his best years (and again on a free). So on that point I neither agree or disagree as I don't know how the player will act.
good post.
Why do you care though? Or are you Dortmund's accountant?
The modern day supporter seems obsessed with fees and wages. I blame Football Manager.
It's all moot if you sell him for 40 mill yet don't replace him with equal quality.
Ok, fair point, i should have said "the perception is that......"
The decision ,in real terms is this, Are Dortmund willing to spend £35m to have Micky in their team this year? Thats an awful lot of cash if he has a poor year or a hammy tear etc etc......
He aint gonna be in the best frame of mind either.....
Trawl through his posts around 7-8 days back on this same thread, he was dead sure that Dortmund did not need ANY KIND OF MONEY and were going to keep him. He has already changed his tune. He is on a shameless trolling mission to wind people up here, by posting cheap and sly digs at United and it's management.
Agreed. There seems to have been an influx of German WUMs lately.
Bullshitter!
shhhhhh - you will have the brexit nutters from the EU debate in the CE forum over here with talk like that
exklusive pictures from the negotiation:
Yes I have noticed mate, I don't understand why oppo fans waste their time doing this but there we go, it takes all sorts.
Haha!
Damn looks like Watzke gained some weight.
Loving the Donkey Kong smash on the table.
Just for clarification: there was supposedly an article in SportBild today which claimed that a meeting the week before last in Zorc's office escalated and Raiola threw around some chairs.
52 pages so I assume this has been mentioned but in case...
Although Lewandowski was in his last year of his contract didn't BVB give him a wage rise to keep him sweet?
Can't see anything like that being offered in this case.
I think the fact it was Bayern after Lewandowski was a massive factor.
Although Lewandowski was in his last year of his contract didn't BVB give him a wage rise to keep him sweet?
Can't see anything like that being offered in this case.
I think the fact it was Bayern after Lewandowski was a massive factor.
I think BVB are holding firm on this one because Raiola stupidly admitted that this could be an opportunity that has a short window for his client.
United want him now and if we can't get him we're likely to go for an alternative meaning there's no move for him next summer. They might have a faint hope they can get a new contract out of him before January.
United want him now and if we can't get him we're likely to go for an alternative meaning there's no move for him next summer. They might have a faint hope they can get a new contract out of him before January.
I can understand Dortmund disliking the cnut massively. In this instance I think his cnutery is to our advantage though, since having a unhappy Raiola client is like having poison.
But I totally understand and would be fecking raging if this happened to us.
They did but it was because Lewandowski is irreplaceable and iirc Bayern never put a bid.
He got a wage rise and not it's not the fact that Bayern was after Lewa, they have no problems selling to them, it's just that Bayern never made a formal offer for Lewa in the tune of 35M € that Dortmund wanted. Bayern wasn't in a rush to get him and were sure they'll get him so they decided to drag the whole thing out as long as possible in order for Dortmund to close the door on the deal. After that Lewa was upset with Dortmund and they decided to pay him more money for the last year of his contract to keep him "motivated".
People are just being impatient, there is a lot of time to eventually make the deal.
Bayern and Dortmund almost came to an agreement over Lewa but Bayern then made an approach for Gotze and pissed Dortmund off.
Nothing about Lewa being irreplaceable, since, you know, he has been successfully replaced.
Nothing about Lewa being irreplaceable, since, you know, he has been successfully replaced.
Yep his agent basically arranged the transfer 1.5 - 2 years before the contract expiration and made it public, everyone knew Lewandowski was not staying at Dortmund who were branded as way too small and crap for Lewa by none other than his agent.
Well Guerreiro and Mor have looked pretty good at the Euros. They clearly know what they are doing. Kuba just scored a goal for Poland. He´s coming back for now, to give them another option.
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