Sanchez. If he refuses to extend this summer I imagine they would listen to offers as he'll only have a year left next summer. Pretty sure if he pushed and we were willing to spend 50m we'd have a very good chance.
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Sanchez. If he refuses to extend this summer I imagine they would listen to offers as he'll only have a year left next summer. Pretty sure if he pushed and we were willing to spend 50m we'd have a very good chance.
Then you have to search somewhere else for a genius #10. But iam wondering what you are thinking about the last transfers of United with these crazy high sums for people without experience in the CL or a first tier league, without these fantastic statistics. You talk like United is a club where the money is spend wisely and everybody is focused on being economicly. Please...
The length of time left on a player's contract is only a small factor on the spectrum that defines a players fee. Dortmund have shown they have no interest in selling. You have to force their hand and that means more money. They're not desperate for money, they're desperate to keep top quality players.
Offer £5 and a bag of crisps. They'll accept that.
The more the bids go up, the more pressure will be placed on him to perform. I don't like this, especially with the English media.
That's true. Which is why, if we really want him this summer, we'll pay over €35m. But, to say €25m initial bid is lowballing is absurd, as starting the bidding at €35m, would only mean Dortmund could ask for €50m.
You will pay double of what you would have to offer us for Mkhitaryan to get him? For a player who performed a good deal worse last season?
The situation with Mata was different to the situation with Mkhitaryan though.Mata, have he ever played well? What you paid for him? Over 40 mio €? And that to a direct domestic rival whos got no use for him.One of the best examples what is going wrong at United. But yeah make some more jokes with Buy€rn Dortmund which even doesnt work cause they based on cluelessness. Think if Micki comes to United, you want to get rid of Mata as soon a s possible. Getting for sure less than you paid. Btw: thanks for Shinji again.
Clubs who are looking to buy proven quality in the January market will nearly always overspend because very few clubs are willing to sell their players during the season. Chelsea were always going to put a premium on top of that because Mata was their player of the year for the two seasons before and knew we were desperate for proven quality at the time.
Dortmund aren't negotiating from that same position of strength so naturally the fee isn't going to go that high. €30m seems about fair really.
Mkhitaryan is a lot faster, mobile and miles better at dribbling than Mata due to his pace among others. He can really play equally well on the wing or AM, basically our Willian with a much better output.
The Mata comparisions are a bit off the mark.
Do you know what the Armenian media/people think about this?
The Mata comparisions are a bit off the mark.
The more the bids go up, the more pressure will be placed on him to perform. I don't like this, especially with the English media.
Do you know what the Armenian media/people think about this?
I mean this is a match made in heaven, our best player ever playing at one of the top clubs in the world. This is our Messi/Ronaldo/Pele, there is no pressure from our end because he can literally do no wrong outside of doing something insane like denying the genocide. Even then that has nothing to do with football. He is just sheltered from abuse both from Dortmund and from the home media. The English media however....
If there was any form of wealth in the country, I'd comfortably say he'd make United a ton of cash in jersey sales. He'd sell 25,000 shirts in Glendale alone.
I'm talking about players in the last year of their contract very much like Van Persie - was he worth more than £24m. Absolutely.
United don't spend money wisely and never suggested they did.
Here I am, stuck in the middle with Roo...Mata in the middle Mkhityran on the right
A Handball coach told me once:"The ball travels faster than the legs".
Mind travels faster than ball...
Yup, good passers with quick minds are the key for fast build up.
Otherwise Sissoko would be the best CM in the world.
Ed Woodward offering 25 million euros for Dortmunds best player last season and the player of the year in the league is something only Woodward can do.
He has one year left on his contract.
EUR 25m for a player of his level in the last year of his contract isn't a bad offer to start with tbh.
He only has a year on his contract.
Yup, good passers with quick minds are the key for fast build up.
Otherwise Sissoko would be the best CM in the world.
True, but by that logic a team consisting of Schweinsteiger, Carrick, Mata and Rooney would produce fast-pace football, which was proven last season not to be the case. You need a blend of both, and right now we're lacking more pace than passers.
Its about what he is worth given the circumstances. If he just signed a new contract and we wanted him we'd probably offer double.
We've got plenty of pace with Martial, Rashford, Shaw, et al. We just need them to be healthy.
Tell that to Slig. He feels like it's derogatory and he's been ranting on this site since.
Where do you all get that from? The official one hasn't been awarded yet, as far as I am aware of.
You don't go all in on a negotiation. It's the basic rule.
If Dortmund are willing to sell for €40m then we'll get him. Not necessarily for €40m exact, but structured with bonuses like we always seem to do lately. Either way it's much more positive news than reading Dortmund aren't going to sell no matter what.
We have pace, Bayern played fast football with Mandzukic, Muller, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Javi Martinez, Ribery and Robben. When you have Rooney, Martial, Mkhitaryan, Rashford, memphis you can't complain about a lack of pace, that's a really bad excuse.
And under LVG our problem came from our attitude not the ability of the players or their athleticism.
Think we might end up paying 30 + 5 add ons.
Mino Raiola sounding so confident for no reason. he knows United have the money, Player wants to leave and Dortmund will not want to repeat the Lewa mistake.
We desperately need a proper RW. 40 million euros seems more than worth it for him. He's not on high wages at BVB, and wants to come here, make it happen Woody!
I'm not the greatest admirer of Woodward, ever since his first year I've been scarred with his failure to negotiate. (But a lot of it was down to Moyesy aswell)
But he can really prove me wrong if he gets Mkhitaryan. Yes he's in his last year but we desperately need him and he was one if not the best player in the league last season. Compare this to the price of Deeney and your having a laugh.
But he can really prove me wrong if he gets Mkhitaryan. Yes he's in his last year but we desperately need him and he was one if not the best player in the league last season. Compare this to the price of Deeney and your having a laugh.
And how much did we pay for Van Persie in a similar situation? Plus the "rival" markup
It's just the starting bid. There isn't a set price and you can't go on offering 50 Million for every player. All it matters is signing the player before the preseason starts, not what the initial bid is.
Agreed, we should give BVB €30m up front and €5m in add ons and that will definitely seal the deal....its a lot of money for a player in the last year of his contract but he would be worth it to us.
I never cease to be amazed by people seemingly thinking buying players is like grocery shopping.
"How much for your creative midfielder?"
"erm, €40m?"
"OK, you take credit cards?"
"How much for your creative midfielder?"
"erm, €40m?"
"OK, you take credit cards?"
£24m if I remember correctly.
From next season players will come with bar codes, you just scan them and swipe your card to buy them.
Can just imaging a modern day equivalent of that Paul Scholes pic, only when the player's shorts slide up there's a bar code with 'now accepting Android Pay' underneath.
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