Just chuck 30m at them and see if they're serious. If they turn that down, respect their decision and move onto other targets. We can't waste another summer chasing unattainable players.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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Yep. I cannot really think of a better RW who seems to be available for us this summer.
What makes you think that Mourinho understands transfers but Sir Alex and Wenger don't?
I believe we'll sign him this summer. To force his transfer from Shakhtar he missed training session and his coach said he'll be fined if he doesn't turn up for training. 10 days later Dortmund signed him. Looks like he will do anything to get what he wants. Not the ideal type of player we should be looking to sign but we'll be left behind if we go for all these moral victories.
Not sure whether he is available but we should try to sign Mahrez. He was superb and his technical ability is among the best in the league.
No thanks, having those sort of snakes on our side is important these days, like it or lump it.
Some people on here need to just get with the times.
Why?
Woodward isn't sentimental. He'll know that Raiola making noises is good for the deal going through.
Rojo missed training in order to join us.
I think Rojo missed training for his entire life, utter tripe
If United are indeed in for the player, it may well drag. I'm sure Woodward won't want to be seen to pay drastically over the odds when City have already this summer acquired a similar stature player, with an identical contract situation at Dortmund, for a fee of £20m.
Lol. Dortmund about to get their own. Raiola said both clubs are still speaking in a got atmosphere. So it might not come to that.
I find it difficult to believe that Dortmund would be so insistent on blocking the move. There's hardly going to be a fan backlash if Mkhitaryan has made it clear he won't extend and Raiola is speaking openly of him wanting to move.
Between Ousmane Dembele and Emre Mor they should have the Mkhitaryan replacement covered anyway. I'm sure they'll sell as long as we put in a respectable offer.
Between Ousmane Dembele and Emre Mor they should have the Mkhitaryan replacement covered anyway. I'm sure they'll sell as long as we put in a respectable offer.
Pretty much this. Would like to see him here but if it's looking like we'll need to pay over the odds/will run throughout the summer, I'd rather we turn our attention to other options.
You would think if anything would send the Dortmund fans in to uncontrollable rage it would be selling their captain to Bayern. But apparently that's perfectly okay. Selling Mkhitaryan to fierce rivals Manchester United would be a step too far, though.
Think it's more a pride issue. They want to show their are not just a selling club etc. Hard to mount a league challenge when you keep selling your best players, but if they don't want to stay what's the point?. I think it'll happen eventually, it just doesn't make sense to miss out on 30m, get an upset player all year and then lose them for free after that. Take it on the chin, buy another wonderkid with the money and move on.
Yeah I get that, but as you say it seems more counterproductive than anything. Losing key players on free transfers every couple of years is hardly an effective business model either.
He should be our poster boy against fascism. MkHITARYAN toxic ideology once and for all
Who knows what is realistic? Dortmund are saying he is not for sale. Mind you, most selling clubs say that until the right money is on the table.
His agent is basically giving a minute by minute live commentary update it seems...
Mino takes everything on a personal level. If a player wants something then he would go to ridiculous levels to give it to him. That's why Mino is loved by his players and hated by the clubs.
This guy is all of a sudden the best option? What've I missed? (Genuine question, not being sarcy)
About 18 Goals and 20 Assists.
It would be better if "Rantiola" puts his energy in talks with United to raise their offer.
25 mio € is laughable.. His bullshit talking and the first low offer wont convince Watzke and Co. All in all it produces more the opposite.
25 mio € is laughable.. His bullshit talking and the first low offer wont convince Watzke and Co. All in all it produces more the opposite.
What's laughable about it when Gundogan was sold for a similar amount? Is Mkhitaryan twice the player?
He was great with Shakthar and followed by a lot of clubs, Dortmund bought him, he struggled a little bit but found his old form back last season which makes him an interesting target.
Doesn't he talk about 12 languages and has high education levels? Will fit in with Juan very well
Gündogan is injured min. until january! Then he will need time to get to his form again. You cant compare that. I can compare other things for example: De Bruyne got 51 games, 16 goals, 28 assists. Manchester Shity paid 74 Mio. €. Micki: 52 games, 23 goals, 32 assits. Sure he got only one year left, but hey, you are not poor, you paid totaly crazy amount of money for mediocre players in the past, Micki was the best "scorer" in whole europe last season, the best Bundesligaplayer. You dont have to come up with 75 € mio, but some more than 25 mio should be realistic. If you dont want to pay what Watzke got in mind, ok, its up to you.
Mendes is Mourinho's agent I'm pretty sure he will be speaking to him regularly on his other clients.
Look at @slig ... calmness personified again
Doesn't he talk about 12 languages and has high education levels? Will fit in with Juan very well
Excellent, they'll be able to speak in several languages about how it's practically impossible to play them both in the same formation.
Mata in the middle Mkhityran on the right
I've compared Mkhitariyan and De Bruyne before. De Bruyne had just turned 24 and was under a longer contract. While Mkhitariyan turned 27 in January, so while 3 and a half years doesn't sound like much, it is the difference between getting a player in his peak and a player who is still to reach his peak, while also maintaining a sell back value in a few years time. Mkhitariyan has only 1 year left on his contract as well. Both these factors drop his value dramatically. You might not believe it, but €25m is a very fair first bid under these circumstance. It's just your frustration that's blinding your judgement.
Mata, have he ever played well? What you paid for him? Over 40 mio €? And that to a direct domestic rival whos got no use for him. 
One of the best examples what is going wrong at United. But yeah make some more jokes with Buy€rn Dortmund which even doesnt work cause they based on cluelessness. Think if Micki comes to United, you want to get rid of Mata as soon a s possible. Getting for sure less than you paid. Btw: thanks for Shinji again.
One of the best examples what is going wrong at United. But yeah make some more jokes with Buy€rn Dortmund which even doesnt work cause they based on cluelessness. Think if Micki comes to United, you want to get rid of Mata as soon a s possible. Getting for sure less than you paid. Btw: thanks for Shinji again.No, its not. Offer something around 40 mio €, and i think Watzke will thinking over it. But United can think like you do, then they wont get him. You have to decide whats important: instant success and be back in the game for CL-spots, or save some money. What you got ? Time, or money?
40m€ for a player in the last year of his contract would be a mugging.
Around 30m€ seems about right but Dortmund are well within their right to demand whatever they want but would be daft to lose him for nothing.
6 (armenian, english, french, russian, portugese and spanish) and he's learning italian nowDoesn't he talk about 12 languages and has high education levels? Will fit in with Juan very well
Yes it is. Sorry but Mkhitariyan wants to leave Dortmund and has only a year left on his contract. Personally I would have bid under €20m initial bid, but as you say Woodward pays too much and he went for €25m. Besides, the first bid is never accepted, so if the transfer does happen, it'll rise to over €35m.
Thing is I don't know who United are targeting, but many will argue Mahrez on the RW is a better option, so if he is available we will likely move for him. Also, Mkhitariyan won't single handedly bring United back into the the CL.
Mata in the middle Mkhityran on the right
That - with Ibra on top and Rooney in CM - would result in some seriously slow build up play.
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