Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer

[SwansonsTache]

Didn't Dortmund say they're making Mhkitaryan see out his contract?

I welcome thee American to the world of Soccer muppetry. Real life, realism and logic have no place in this.

This is a frenzy where we jump on every instagram post, facebook like, twitter rumour and hearsay from the local fruit dealer and jizz ourselves silly over it.

 

[Ramshock]

11 pages since yesterday? for what?

 

[Carolina Red]

I welcome thee American to the world of Soccer muppetry. Real life, realism and logic have no place in this.

This is a frenzy where we jump on every instagram post, facebook like, twitter rumour and hearsay from the local fruit dealer and jizz ourselves silly over it.

Understood!

 

[RDCR07]

I welcome thee American to the world of Soccer muppetry. Real life, realism and logic have no place in this.

This is a frenzy where we jump on every instagram post, facebook like, twitter rumour and hearsay from the local fruit dealer and jizz ourselves silly over it.

Bravo! I dont think I could have described a transfer muppet season any better.

 

[Piratesoup]

Hmm, if this is the condition, i have to say no.
Ok, i wont discrediting Bayern whenever a chance is given, but sometimes the truth has to be said.

You had your chance and you blew it. Such a shame.

 

[Silverman]

Spoiler

Cheers

 

[slig]

You had your chance and you blew it. Such a shame.

Come on, take it with a smile :-)

We would have a deal, if all are stoping their stupid jokes of Dortmund being the feeder club for Bayern. But i think you cant speak for everyone who is doing this.

And hey, i have written Bayern corectly in this post ;-)

 

[hobbers]

They gave us Kagawa, we gave him back to them along with Januzaj.

I think there's probably enough good will and certainly enough cash for this to be settled to everyone's interests.

What happens if Bayern role up in 12 months time and get him for free?

 

[The Man Himself]

Good to see that everyone has agreed to Dortmund being Buyern's feeder club. Nothing like a consensus on internet forum!

 

[slig]

Buyern

great

 

[SwansonsTache]

Buyern must have a brilliant time, I remember the time when we could bully every club we wanted in the PL, and clubs like Bayern for the players we wanted

 

[RDCR07]

They gave us Kagawa, we gave him back to them along with Januzaj.

I think there's probably enough good will and certainly enough cash for this to be settled to everyone's interests.

What happens if Bayern role up in 12 months time and get him for free?

If I have learnt anything from FM, its that you cant sign a player from the same league six months in advance when his contract is up, which means some foreign team WILL snap him up in Jan on a pre-contract. So bottomline Bayern wont get for free in 12 months time.

 

[slig]

If I have learnt anything from FM, its that you cant sign a player from the same league six months in advance when his contract is up, which means some foreign team WILL snap him up in Jan on a pre-contract. So bottomline Bayern wont get for free in 12 months time.

Yeah just like it was with the case of Lewandowski...Or one of the other dozens of players they snaped up from other Bundesliga teams.
If i have learnt anything from real life, its that Buy€rn never stick to the rules. They never did in such cases.

Micki will be free, Götze will be free. I dont see a problem in this.

 

[RDCR07]

Yeah just like it was with the case of Lewandowski...Or one of the other dozens of players they snaped up from other Bundesliga teams.
If i have learnt anything from real life, its that Buy€rn never stick to the rules. They never did in such cases.

Micki will be free, Götze will be free. I dont see a problem in this.

Thats because they had a gentlemen's agreement with Lewa and he only wanted to move to Bayern. Not the case with Mhki. And they didnt sign the other Bundesliga players for free.

 

[roonster09]

If I have learnt anything from FM, its that you cant sign a player from the same league six months in advance when his contract is up, which means some foreign team WILL snap him up in Jan on a pre-contract. So bottomline Bayern wont get for free in 12 months time.

That rule applies only in England and if you are playing with English club.

 

[JPRouve]

That rule applies only in England and if you are playing with English club.

You can only sign a player if he is in the last six months of his contract, it applies everywhere.

 

[roonster09]

You can only sign a player if he is in the last six months of his contract, it applies everywhere.

I meant in FM game. If you are playing as English club then you can't sign players in England even if they have only 6 months on their contract. At least it was like that till FM 14. You can sign players from other leagues though.

 

[hobbers]

If I have learnt anything from FM, its that you cant sign a player from the same league six months in advance when his contract is up, which means some foreign team WILL snap him up in Jan on a pre-contract. So bottomline Bayern wont get for free in 12 months time.

That's wrong. Lewandowski signed a pre contract with Bayern in January.

 

[ehsanul]

What amaze me that Dortmund seems to sell players to Bayern without any fuss.Do they have a secret agreement of being a feeder club to Bayern?

 

[slig]

What amaze me that Dortmund seems to sell players to Bayern without any fuss.Do they have a secret agreement of being a feeder club to Bayern?

now its getting boring...

 

[SwansonsTache]

What amaze me that Dortmund seems to sell players to Bayern without any fuss.Do they have a secret agreement of being a feeder club to Bayern?

This amazes me as well. Even back in the day when we were the bully of the PL and could go after the other top clubs players they rarely ever sold to us, they would rather sell with a loss abroad.

Why continuously strengthen your rival? It is strange to me.

 

[2ndTouch]

This amazes me as well. Even back in the day when we were the bully of the PL and could go after the other top clubs players they rarely ever sold to us, they would rather sell with a loss abroad.

Why continuously strengthen your rival? It is strange to me.

Götze had a release clause, Lewandowski fulfilled his contract and didn't renew, Hummels had 1 year left on his and Bayern paid 38mill €. So how exactly is that a deliberate act of strengthening your rival?

 

[SwansonsTache]

Götze had a release clause, Lewandowski fulfilled his contract and didn't renew, Hummels had 1 year left on his and Bayern paid 38mill €. So how exactly is that a deliberate act of strengthening your rival?

I guess you are right. Still think it is strange though since I guess Bayern and Dortmund are the main rivals in the BL. I can't imagine one player on the top of his game, let alone three players, going from Manchester United to Manchester City or Liverpool, or the other way around.

Perhaps the dynamics in the BL are different? In the PL it would have been considered unacceptable and to be quite frank, unsafe.

 

[RedStarUnited]

Dortmund need to just decide to sell players who dont renew with 2 year left in their contract. Cut your losses nice and early. Cos they keep getting shafted like this.

 

[2ndTouch]

I guess you are right. Still think it is strange though since I guess Bayern and Dortmund are the main rivals in the BL. I can't imagine one player on the top of his game, let alone three players, going from Manchester United to Manchester City or Liverpool, or the other way around.

Perhaps the dynamics in the BL are different? In the PL it would have been considered unacceptable and to be quite frank unsafe.

Robin van Persie?
Other than that, maybe folks in the BuLi might see things in a more pragmatic way. In the end, it doesn't matter for Dortmund if one of their players leaves for Bayern, City, or Real.
Even Bayern doesn't act like a bunch of sourpusses when they are not able to bind a player, see Toni Kroos whom we sold to our biggest european rival for a mere 25-30mill € instead of insisting to him see out his last year of contract.

 

[SwansonsTache]

Robin van Persie?
Other than that, maybe folks in the BuLi might see things in a more pragmatic way. In the end, it doesn't matter for Dortmund if one of their players leaves for Bayern, City, or Real.
Even Bayern doesn't act like a bunch of sourpusses when they are not able to bind a player, see Toni Kroos whom we sold to our biggest european rival for a mere 25-30mill € instead of insisting to him see out his last year of contract.

I think RVP was nearing the end of his contract, and career tbf.

The difference in a player leaving for Real \ United vs Bayern is that we dont compete with Dortmund for the BL or the German cup.

I think Dortmund should take the money, and start scouting for the replacement instead of letting this go on just for the sake of principle. I am sure they can press us to give them 35m euro, and they are quite able to find a replacement and probably already has in Emre Mor and Moussa Dembele.

 

[2ndTouch]

I think RVP was nearing the end of his contract, and career tbf.

The difference in a player leaving for Real \ United vs Bayern is that we dont compete with Dortmund for the BL or the German cup.

Then Bayern just splashes out the cash for other high profile reinforcements. The balance of power doesn't shift.

I think Dortmund should take the money, and start scouting for the replacement instead of letting this go on just for the sake of principle. I am sure they can press us to give them 35m euro, and they are quite able to find a replacement and probably already has in Emre Mor and Moussa Dembele.

Yeah, I agree, as I've already stated in this thread.

 

[Siorac]

I guess you are right. Still think it is strange though since I guess Bayern and Dortmund are the main rivals in the BL. I can't imagine one player on the top of his game, let alone three players, going from Manchester United to Manchester City or Liverpool, or the other way around.

Perhaps the dynamics in the BL are different? In the PL it would have been considered unacceptable and to be quite frank, unsafe.

City seem to get an Arsenal player just about every summer though.

 

[Fahad Jawaid]

What a stupid club, they are literally Bayern's bitch. It would be far sensible to sell him to us for 30 odd million euros, then lose him for free next season, imagine what if we go on and sign another Winger and are not interested next year, and next season Bayern snap him up for free, how stupid would they look rejecting a foreign club, instead they would be strengthening their rivals again.

 

[Bestie07]

What a stupid club, they are literally Bayern's bitch. It would be far sensible to sell him to us for 30 odd million euros, then lose him for free next season, imagine what if we go on and sign another Winger and are not interested next year, and next season Bayern snap him up for free, how stupid would they look rejecting a foreign club, instead they would be strengthening their rivals again.

Ribery and Robben aren't really getting any younger. Bayern would definitely consider him on a free next season.

 

[cyberman]

What a stupid club, they are literally Bayern's bitch. It would be far sensible to sell him to us for 30 odd million euros, then lose him for free next season, imagine what if we go on and sign another Winger and are not interested next year, and next season Bayern snap him up for free, how stupid would they look rejecting a foreign club, instead they would be strengthening their rivals again.

You don't understand. There is nothing Dortmund can do. We move on, if Bayern were in England they would do the same thing to us etc etc. The usual.
It really is shocking!

 

[Keegs]

What a stupid club, they are literally Bayern's bitch. It would be far sensible to sell him to us for 30 odd million euros, then lose him for free next season, imagine what if we go on and sign another Winger and are not interested next year, and next season Bayern snap him up for free, how stupid would they look rejecting a foreign club, instead they would be strengthening their rivals again.

Agree with this post completely people say we're run badly. But my god Dortmund are a Joke compared to us in certain aspects. The way they handle players contracts is dreadful and some of the main men on there board want to have a long look at themselves.

 

[fanutd]

What a stupid club, they are literally Bayern's bitch. It would be far sensible to sell him to us for 30 odd million euros, then lose him for free next season, imagine what if we go on and sign another Winger and are not interested next year, and next season Bayern snap him up for free, how stupid would they look rejecting a foreign club, instead they would be strengthening their rivals again.

I am in the same boat when it comes to Dortmund selling their main assets to Bayern. However, in this current case, I can understand the reluctance to let another player leave. It might be way of getting more money out of us but I can't help but feel sorry for them. They keep on getting plundered year after year and they have to keep their fans on their side and show that they are no pushovers. So, we might get him after chasing Miki for quite sometime and making it a long drawn saga. This should also win Dortmund some brownie points with their fans. Had we stolen a march on City and signed Miki before City got Gundogan then we City would have faced a similar situation.

 

[charlenefan]

Yeah I don't see this happening, Dortmund have previous for letting player leave on a free if they don't want to sell

Nice free pick up 12 months time though maybe

 

[Attila]

I find it strange that they were willing to sell their captain to Bayern so easily but say they will keep Mkhitaryan for another year rather than sell him. Personally I think it would made more sense to force Hummels to stay and sell Mkhitaryan to a foreign club

 

[do.ob]

What a stupid club, they are literally Bayern's bitch. It would be far sensible to sell him to us for 30 odd million euros, then lose him for free next season, imagine what if we go on and sign another Winger and are not interested next year, and next season Bayern snap him up for free, how stupid would they look rejecting a foreign club, instead they would be strengthening their rivals again.

Good point. Caving in to the agent immediately and accepting the first offer they get would definitely be a show of strength.

 

[Riz]

I find it strange that they were willing to sell their captain to Bayern so easily but say they will keep Mkhitaryan for another year rather than sell him. Personally I think it would make more sense to force Hummels to stay and sell Mkhitaryan to a foreign club

This. I can only assume it's cause Bayern offered quite a lot of money for a player in the last year of his contract. What stops us gettin Mkhitaryan through doing the same thing is that they've already sold 2 key players whereas when Bayern signed Hummels Dortmund hadn't yet sold any.

 

[JPRouve]

I find it strange that they were willing to sell their captain to Bayern so easily but say they will keep Mkhitaryan for another year rather than sell him. Personally I think it would made more sense to force Hummels to stay and sell Mkhitaryan to a foreign club

Maybe the relationship with Hummels wasn't good?

 

[do.ob]

I find it strange that they were willing to sell their captain to Bayern so easily but say they will keep Mkhitaryan for another year rather than sell him. Personally I think it would made more sense to force Hummels to stay and sell Mkhitaryan to a foreign club

Well first of all Bayern bid silly money for a CB in the last year of his contract. I'm sure if United made an offer of €45-50m they'd be quite open to a transfer, too.
Secondly things might have been different had Mkhitaryan not led them to believe that he was going to extend his contract, just to stall things at the last minute and then try to force his way out after their were already done with the biggest chunk of their business.

 

[Varun]

Agree with this post completely people say we're run badly. But my god Dortmund are a Joke compared to us in certain aspects. The way they handle players contracts is dreadful and some of the main men on there board want to have a long look at themselves.

Do you think they put the release clauses on their biggest talent in a while willingly? Or let their captain run down his contract willingly? Ditto for Mkhitaryan?

Not every club has the ability to pay the ridiculous wages some other clubs do. Dortmund were in turmoil as a club and simply could not afford to pay insane wages, especially couple of years back when they'd have needed to do it for players like gotze to agree to a contract without a release clause. He probably got a 400% bump in wages due to the move.

When you can't pay a player high wages, they want a release clause so that they can feck off once someone big comes along. I don't think many here realise that Dortmund aren't "poorly run" by any stretch of imagination. They are simply not shitting dollars like United does and thus have to make the best use of what they can as a club. Yet you've gone ahead and made a stupid uninformed remark.