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Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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My fault, I saw the tweet the other day and thought it was official as usually the made up stuff just tends to be about rumoured transfers and fallings out at clubs.
So he has had 20 assists, not the ridiculous 32 that's being peddled
I think he got like 5 in the Europa League qualifiers and a couple of goals too. Depends if you count them or not.
Would prefer Mahrez but he'd be a good addition. We'll undoubtedly be playing a lot in transition considering who our manager is and he's an exceptional ball carrier and decision maker in that respect. The one part of his game that is lacklustre and will surely frustrate many a United fan will be his finishing.
Whoops. Good looking out. I saw it on ESPN as well, so I guess the multitude of sources reporting it, so I believed it must have been true. Good stuff.
I wonder if Dortmund would be interested in Mata. I think Mata would fit that team well, with the pace of Auba, Reus, and Dembele around him.
He really does seem like a Mourinho player. Puts in tackles/interceptions aswell as assists/key passes.
I think different websites count them differently. Transfrmarkt has him at 20 league assists as does the ESPN article which is 5 more than Sqwuaka and Whoscored
Borussia Dortmund midfielder Henrikh Mkhitaryan is closing in on Kevin De Bruyne's Bundesliga record of 21 assists in one season.
Mkhitaryan needs to set up one more goal in Dortmund's final two games of the season to match the mark that De Bruyne set while playing for Wolfsburg last season, according to kicker's statistics.
Mkhitaryan has already matched the 20 assists recorded by former Wolfsburg playmaker Zvjezdan Misimovic in 2008-09 and Bayern Munich star Franck Ribery in 2011-12.
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/german-bund...-to-kevin-de-bruynes-bundesliga-assist-record
I haven't missed the cult of Kagawa 
though to be fair this guy looks a much better player
though to be fair this guy looks a much better playerTo me it looks like a direct replacement for Mata. I can't see both in a Jose side.
Dortmund is so funny. If they don't want their top players leaves then they should keep their other top players and be more ambitious. I don't see any reason why Dortmund can't sell Mkhitaryan if they had balls to let Hummels go to their rival. I can see Dortmund wants more money so if 25m was rejected then let's increase it to 27m. They just got Dembele which is considered to be an exciting player to satisfy their fans. We sold Kagawa cheap to you so let's be nice to us and stop trying to increase the price of Mkhitaryan. Instead of wasting time to keep him it's better you take the money and use it to bring his replacement.
I don't mind as well if we do a straight swap with Mata. I think Mata only has 2 years left in his contract.
I don't mind as well if we do a straight swap with Mata. I think Mata only has 2 years left in his contract.
Personally, I wouldn't want him here. Mkhitaryan as part of an attacking unit with Kagawa, Reus and Aubameyang is very good and Tuchel has them linking up well, but individually I'm not really a fan of him or any of them bar Kagawa for that matter. I'm not saying Kagawa's the best out of them or that I want him back here, by the way; It's just personal preference.
He reminds me of an even more effective Mata in that his stats are impressive, yes, but his general play is, for lack of a better term, flat. I assume he'd be playing on the right as well so we'd have the same problem we have with Mata now.
He reminds me of an even more effective Mata in that his stats are impressive, yes, but his general play is, for lack of a better term, flat. I assume he'd be playing on the right as well so we'd have the same problem we have with Mata now.
Also Miki has been playing on the right this season so it will be a natural position for him
What's funny? I can't like Kagawa because he wasn't good enough for us?
Also Miki has been playing on the right this season so it will be a natural position for him
I know, but, from what I've seen at least, Dortmund were very fluid in their attacking so he pretty much played all over even if he started games on the right. Either way, I'm just not that big on him.
I think it's the fact that out of those 4 players you rate kagawa the most. I like kagawa too but Reus Auba and even Miki are a level above
Oh no, I don't rate Kagwa above them; I agree that the other three are better than him. I just prefer him as a player regardless of him not being as good as them.
Oh yeah well same here! Although I love how reus goes about his business
The muppet in me, says sign him up in an instant, but I'm not so sure.
Looks great in the YouTube compilations, as always, but I personally haven't seen enough to convince me. Granted, I've only really watched him in Dortmund's bigger European/League matches mind.
As others have mentioned, I reckon it could be another case of a player being perfect for the BVB set up, but would struggle to have a similar impact when leaving their yellow & black comfort zone. I'd happily be proved wrong though, as long as it's for us!
And for what it's worth (absolutely nothing), he's pretty decent on Fifa.
Looks great in the YouTube compilations, as always, but I personally haven't seen enough to convince me. Granted, I've only really watched him in Dortmund's bigger European/League matches mind.
As others have mentioned, I reckon it could be another case of a player being perfect for the BVB set up, but would struggle to have a similar impact when leaving their yellow & black comfort zone. I'd happily be proved wrong though, as long as it's for us!
And for what it's worth (absolutely nothing), he's pretty decent on Fifa.
Wow. Admittedly I don't watch Dortmund and don't really know what type of player he is but I didn't expect his defensive stats to be that impressive
... missing injured when it counts?
He's very Pedro-esque in his style of play.
He had 23 goals and 32 assists in 53 games all competitions counted. That is the Bundesliga, The German Cup, The EL and The EL qualifiers.
If you are only interested in the BL he had 11 goals and 20 assists.
Haha yeah well that's the pity of it but when he's on song I reckon he is top 10 in the world. Just a shame he's never fit to reach that level enough... missing injured when it counts?
Gotze may still have a great tournament and other club may show interest. Gotze may find it more peaceful on a complete new plate than returning to Dortmund where fans still remembered what he did.we can get götze for free next year
What if a foreign club can have agreement for both Mikhi and Gotze by January? Would Dortmund risk it that way?
i answered to the phrase : "still have to buy a replacement next year." No we havent. Götze will be free. There is no risk: Micki plays his last year just like its written in the contract he signed, leaves for free and we can get Götze for free back. Oh and the fans i think wont argue, the "Götze-back" story exists since month, everybody discussed this and would accept that, even more since Götze annoys "Rolex Kalle" Rummenigge by saying that he will stay (remembering his suprised face let me smile). So we would have got 37€ for him, and then getting him back for free..the fans would like that very much :-) dont worry.
And if not Götze, then somebody else. Think Watzke can be relaxed in this case. That one, who cant be relaxed is Woodward and Mourinho, they need instant success and have to begin to build a squad with sense, to come in to the CL again.
I explained it a lot here: Even if Micki goes for free next season, he is this worthy for us. We proofed that with Lewandowski. We dont need money in the bank, we need players on the pitch.
You only can convince us by paying a record fee. I can imagine the answer from us to Woodward for the first unpolite and naughty offer was a fax where this smiles were painted on
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I think that is quite fair. Dortmund should ask for similar money to what Bayern payed for Hummels.
On the other side, if Dortmund asks for even more than that, United should go for an another alternative (probably Mahrez) and then sign Miki on free next season (to replace Rooney as No.10).
I have those concerns too. I've said it before with Auba, and it's the same with Miki for me. I'm worried it'll go the same way as Kagawa in that Miki and Auba might just be very good players in that Dortmund system. Obviously there's a good chance I'm wrong but it's a worry nevertheless.
Aye, from what little I know of him I've gotta agree.
Why should we pay what Bayern paid? Bayern are their biggest rivals, of course they should be paying a premium. You could argue that Hummels is the better player too and home grown. No way should we be paying the same fee.
I think he was probably a good player before he played in Dortmond's system otherwise they wouldn't have paid £23m for him in the first place.
Why not? How much someone else paid for another player is irrelevant. If we need and want a player, then the only quesion is how much is thatbplayer worth to us? If hes the right player, i don't care if we pay 10 million or 60 million.
If we end up paying more than bayern paid for hummels so what?
We don't have to pay it we can just by another player...only problem is that a player of similar quality and experience will probably cost double.
They aren't under obligation to sell him to us at a price we want. We could call their bluff and say no then if they change their stance later an become deperate to cash in the we could get him a cheaper price. Other clubs could become intrested at that point.
We have a history and reputation of high transfer fee's because a) we are Man Utd b) the money that comes into the premier league. Whether we pay £5m or £50m it doesn't really effect any of us.
Sell mata to valencia or someone for 20 million buy henrikh for same money and we would have improved the squad and the balance too.
In that case, we should only answer to three questions. Does he fill a need? Does he worth 38m€ or more? Can we find someone of the same quality for less?
The muppet in me, says sign him up in an instant, but I'm not so sure.
Looks great in the YouTube compilations, as always, but I personally haven't seen enough to convince me. Granted, I've only really watched him in Dortmund's bigger European/League matches mind.
As others have mentioned, I reckon it could be another case of a player being perfect for the BVB set up, but would struggle to have a similar impact when leaving their yellow & black comfort zone. I'd happily be proved wrong though, as long as it's for us!
And for what it's worth (absolutely nothing), he's pretty decent on Fifa.
He scored 25 goals in 29 league games in his final season at Shakhtar and is the only player in Ukrainian league history to hit the 25-goal mark. Impressed in the Champions League for Shaktar too. Dortmund do have a very strong system in place for targeting the right players and integrating them in a way that consistently makes the team better than the sum of its parts, but Mkhitaryan has a strong background.
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