He seems like tailor made for the number 10 position in a Mourinho team. Hopefully we can convince Dortmund to let him leave.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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You kind of answered your own question mate. You wouldn't see something on sale and offer half its original price because if it wasn't on sale it would cost twice as much.
He'd thrive in a similar role to what Hazard had in his POTY season under Mourinho.
£31M in the bank or Mkhitaryan in the team, it's a no contest, the Glazers earning interest on that money vs us having a top class forward in a team starved of creativity.
I think you are referring to Martial in that aspect.
The thing, though, is that the player is not for sale let alone on sale so the club has to offer a fee that gets Dortmund to the table. I suspect it will be done at 30m with the difference being made up in add-ons.
I'm clearly not. I'm talking of a 10 playing as a free role wide attacker. In this case Henrikh operating at wide right if we sign him
Besides it won't even be in the bank because we will spend it on some overrated kid from a B-rated league who isn't half as proven as Mkhitaryan and roll the dice hoping his is more Martial and less Memphis.
He is not on sale though. He still has a contract, and if they want they have every right to keep him and it's up to us to tempt them with what they deem a worthy offer. They're not idiots, they'll do what's best for them, but I'd rather we cough up the extra 5 million than end up without him. It's rare nowadays to have a player of such quality available at a sensible price (no matter the reason), so we should be all over it.
Probably Embolo
I reckon he wil be a United player around the time we face them in pre season.
Totally agree with this. With the money being touted around £30 million should be a no brainer. If we can just forget that he will be in his last year of his contract then it wouldn't even be an argument but football is a business and we will want to pay as little as possible with BVB trying to recoup as much as possible.
I certainly think BVB are in a position to sell him, it makes business sense. Its just a matter of negotiating the right price.
Can't believe people still come out with this shite after the last couple of years...
Unless you're being sarcastic
Totally understand.. But football is a Bartering business, the only people to blame for the low price is Dortmund allowing his contract to run down to one year. No one has sympathy with us with De Gea where a arguably €60m player is now worth at most €40. I just think the value they want is not market value but if it's the sake of a few mill we will do it.
Mourinho type of player. However, wouldn't it seem as though Mourinho is swaying towards a 4231 if he buys Mkhitaryan, who is more of a wide attacking midifelder than a winger?
I could be wrong, though.
Has anyone ever seen him play as a winger? If so, what's he like?
I could be wrong, though.
Has anyone ever seen him play as a winger? If so, what's he like?
Can't believe people still come out with this shite after the last couple of years...
Unless you're being sarcastic
The Glazers comment?
They can sell him this year and buy back Gotze for a comparable price or else lose him on a free and still have to buy a replacement next year.
We will get our man. Hopefully the first of a few new attackers.
It would be pointless for BVB to turn down £25-30m when he will walk next year on a free.
It would be pointless for BVB to turn down £25-30m when he will walk next year on a free.
That is for the market to decide. We just sold a defender with the same age and contract situation as Mkhitaryan for 38 Mil. €, so why should an offensive player with a better season not be measured at 40 Mil. €? Why should we not demand that kind of prize for a club which has the transfer history and finances like United? Of course we start negotiations that high, you guys have thrown out millions upon millions for far less players than Mkhitaryan and have a clear reputation of overspending massively at times over here in Germany.
I find that complain pretty amusing from an EPL club supporter as these clubs with United at the helm inflated the prizes on the market in the first place.
Why? They've done exactly that before.
Mkhi, tofu, Pogba and martial midfield
Don't worry, you will get your 40m eventually. The old low ball initial bid means this is happening. Watch us go from 19m to 23m to 40m because football transfers have no logic.
Offer them Januzaj on loan.....
We should buy Embolo and send him there.
I agree, last year of his contract or not he's worth a top fee and I think more clubs will be taking that "Pay or stay" stance with more money coming into the game, especially English teams. Do you think Watzke is serious about blocking the move due to Reus being out until 2017, or do you think £35M would get it done?
Can you imagine the look on their faces when Woody offers just that.
We should send it as a threat.
Buy Embolo and send him to Dortmund as lure of The Mikh. Use Januzaj as lure for Embolo by offering him to Basel.
This is two CEO's showboating in front of the supporters before the real contest starts.
And your boss Watzke is probably more pragmatic then you and realize that money in the bank gives your club more options instead of one unhappy player who often gives your manager headache.
In the end the fee will be close to what you want, maybe not exactly €40m but maybe I few mill less. And to be fair to both clubs a fee close to €35 is reasonable from every aspect and good value. Like they say in the East when one hand has something the other hand wants it will be a Happy Ending.
Januzaj + Rojo and we're good.
I'm not sure I've seen him play more than a few times, but I think this Mediterranean lad would be a perfect signing. #1 on my muppet list ahead of Greizemann and Pogba.
Dortmund would need a goal scorer if they're to sell Mkhitaryan & Aubameyang. How about Fellaini? He's as reliable a goal scorer as you can get! Throw in Young too and that should more be than enough to replace Mkhitaryan!
Reus is out untill 2017?
Yikes.
Yikes.
OK, as this comparision comes up time and time again, I´ll try to explain why the cases of Lewandowski and Mkhitaryan are not really comparable:
1. Relationship between the clubs: The Summer 2013 when we decided to run down the Pole´s contract was the same when Bayern triggered Götze´s release clause, which on one side soured the relationship between the respective officials (and turned the atmosphere between both supporter camps downright toxic) and would have also meant two players transfering to them in the same window. We would have sold Lewandowski abroad that Summer and even actively offered him to both Chelsea and Real. With Mkhitaryan the other transfer party is such a foreign club whom we appearantly have no problems with (going by the causa Kagawa the relations are probably even pretty good).
2. Prize: By the time of the Lewandowski desicion the player was already Bayern bound. They also did not have an immeadiate need for him that time. While he represented an upgrade to their starting striker Mandzukic, they could afford to wait another year. Given the circumstances the offer by Bayern was fairly low and it made actually sense to keep Lewandoski as lowered the risk of not reaching top 3 (aka CL money) considerably. With Mkhitaryan it remains to be seen if United cough up the demanded money to compensate for losing the Armenian.
3. Market situation: In 2013 the number of available quality strikers was very limited and competive. In general strikers are simply harder to replace than offensive midfielders. In this current window we already signed three players who can play Mkhitaryan´s position and have one other highly talented academy prospect for that role aswell. This does not mean that we won´t replace Mkhitaryan with another player as especially with Reus´ injury we have a need of a more experienced and established player there, but like I said there are more affordable options on the market and the pressure is in general lower.
4. Mentality of the player: This might actually be the biggest difference and the prime reason why the majority of the Dortmund supporters are in favour of selling Mkhitaryan now. Lewandowski is the prime example of a modern mercenary and I don´t mean that negatively. He is extremely professional and unaffected by outside influences. He does what he is payed to do and does not develop emotional ties with the clubs he plays for. Mkhitaryan has a far softer mentality and personality. He needs the complete backing by the coach, club and fans to play well. With everybody knowing that he would rather elsewhere and Raiola doing his thing I can´t see him performing as well as this season. There just needs to go one thing wrong and his confidence is shot. How he performs in that case could be seen in the 2014/2015 season.
First potential signing that has me excited.
http://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/sport...ag-beinhaltet-auch-Pflichten;art11635,3042582
Anyone translate this?? This is the latest news from most reliable dortmund newspaper.
Anyone translate this?? This is the latest news from most reliable dortmund newspaper.
it's no news, it more of a commentary on how players are regarding their contracts nowadays, and how mkhhitaryan should be a wee bit more grateful due to dortmund having put trust in him even in times of underachieving on his part and bla bla.
Anyone?
i have the weirdest boner right now.
With the lyrics to 'I am what I am' written down the shaft in felt tip? Samesies.
No....
(Next part is more general and not directed at you)
Seriously, people, by now even on here people should know that the freaking "BILD" is the equivalent of the "SUN". Don´t believe everything this tabloid writes. He is out until mid August. That is the official estimation by the medical department of the club (the guys who actually seen and treat him). Hardly ideal as he will miss the pre season but a far cry from the bulshit panic story of the "BILD" about him being out for six months.
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