But you've sort of proved my point. Both teams had different types of players
But anyway, I hope we get him he would be a major improvement on our current options. He'd be good for goals and assists and he's quite cheap
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But anyway, I hope we get him he would be a major improvement on our current options. He'd be good for goals and assists and he's quite cheap
Arsenal are the most transparent club in terms of transfer business that people have to believe a widely held assumption on targets.
All the regulars said you were in for Ibra and Saul. All the regulars came out with the Vardy story. The same media outlets that claim you are in talks with Dortmund broke the transfer of that midfielder you bought from Germany.
I tend not to believe the man who claims he spotted and could have signed every top player in Europe when he makes excuses for not getting deals done.
I know this isn't the thread but I had a look at your squad list. Arsenal have an older squad than people think. This summer is really important for Arsene.
Led the league in assists
BBC reporting it now.. So this looks like the interest is real..
I can understand Dortmund not wanting to sell.. It must suck to lose players to clubs with more money... Its not even that they are much better at football.. just that they are richer.
But if he really wants to leave, and its not to a rival, they might as well get money for him.
I can understand Dortmund not wanting to sell.. It must suck to lose players to clubs with more money... Its not even that they are much better at football.. just that they are richer.
But if he really wants to leave, and its not to a rival, they might as well get money for him.
yes, I know that. But I don't really think we have the sort of team to play exclusively counter attacking football especially since we are super slow in midfield. Unless Rooney is tasked with playing those long balls up field, it wouldn't suit us.
I agree, if he's cheap, I wouldn't mind him, but only if we bring in Embolo as well and rotate between the two.
Yes it has been their model but they also had this policy for some time that they wouldn't sell more than one or two key players per season. I think they have basically a limit of players that they think they will be able to compensate for by brining in talents that might make the step up in couple of seasons and 2 seems to be that limit.
I mean perhaps you can argue that but their are too many exceptions. For instance Lvg signed players like Di Maria, martial (don't play safe), schneiderlin, Darmian (aren't good in possession). Mourinho used players like Ozil Kaka Fabregas Oscar Hazard etc who don't really get stuck in and aren't physical specimens.
I just think it's silly phrase that's all
I think they'd take somewhere between 20 and 25 million pounds. Probably a couple months of haggling ahead.
That description doesn't fit Mkhitaryan, it's more relevant to the type of defenders and central midfielders Mourinho goes for. From what I've seen of the subject of this thread he's a high-class link player. He's quick, effective and has an eye for a killer pass. He'd be great for Arsenal tbf, especially if they upgraded Giroud.
He's exactly what we were missing last year as well.
Ooft him and Embolo sounds amazing. Beats lingard and mata out there am I right?
Exactly, movement and unpredictability. At Dormund they moved him around alot and he can play any of the 3 positions behind the striker in a 4-2-3-1. These are players we should be looking at.
The funny thing is I remember him saying the exact same thing last season when it seemed like Gundogan and Hummels were going to leave. I think if a Club is interested enough (Be it us or Arsenal), a deal can be struck. Money always talks more than public stances.
The bigger problem is that the injuries are starting to take their toll. At the rate he's going, he'll be ruined before his supposed peak years even hit.
I suspect many posters here were former Arsenal fans (so do the programmers of FM). This 30th birthday decline is straight out of Wenger management book. Remember the time Wenger sold his captain at his prime because he's getting old that began a decade or so barren period?! Wenger didn't stop but further sell out their best "old" players over the years.It really is a joke. A player is 27 and we are talking about getting 3 years out of him
Another Wenger signature is the playing a reserve team in cup game and call it development (SAF did fell victim to this in later year hence our bad record in FA and League Cup compare to mid 00s and earlier as well as the quality of youth graduate were not so good in later year). The ideal scenario for developing young players is integrating few at the time into first team and let the experience first team guide them. Throwing a reserve team into a cup is like playing street ball. The better players will shine through individual effort which they often do in youth football, but they don't learn anything about real first team football except the opponents mean serious business.
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This is/ would be huge for us. I love what Jose has going on and I think a lot of players seeing Ibra and Martial, Rashford and De Gea (as well as an older Rooney and Bastian) as a building block for something special. Don't be surprised if we get several big names. I think this is the trickle down effect working as intended.
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Not sure if this has already been posted but the Times saying Dortmund have blocked a move, to be expected. Transfer windows must be awful for Dortmund fans, it must feel how we did last summer when we thought we were losing DDG.
Being fair if we manage to actually sign Ibrahimovic and Mkhitaryan then We'll have nearly a complete starting XI, we'd just be lacking a good CM.
Absolutely. Mata is probably off anyways. I haven't seen a postcard of his on the United website for a while now.
Probably but I think you all can relax because Dortmund will sell before the seasons starts. In the end money talks. Woody and Mou don't want to lose out on such a quality player, it gives bad wibes and send the wrong message to future additions. Further more Adidas, Chevy and Co pay us premium XXL to use it and a fee in the region of €30-35m it represent very good value for money and it's also a acceptable number for the selling club. Both Woody and Watzke knows this and that's why they will reach an agreement before the window is over.
Forget about the agent, he's just promoting himself to find new clients.
They actually have some balls when it comes to not selling to Bayern.
Not exactly sure how this works... but we can still go after him and he can still force a move ... correct?
To the Veratti and Pogba thread I guess
He can force a move and they can tell him to feck off. Question is though is it worth keeping a player who forces a move for another year if there's possibility of recouping decent enough money and not having to sell him to your direct rival. You don't know if he won't be a prat come next season if he's forced to stay, not everybody is Lewandowski when it comes to being a pro.
They are a stupid club, did the same with Robert Lewandowski (look what happened the season he left in the bottom 3 for a while) better off cashing in on the player and signing a replacement who wants to play for you then then keep him against his will and fecking off at the end of the season for nothing
Probably but I think you all can relax because Dortmund will sell before the seasons starts. In the end money talks. Woody and Mou don't want to lose out on such a quality player, it gives bad wibes and send the wrong message to future additions. Further more Adidas, Chevy and Co pay us premium XXL to use it and a fee in the region of €30-35m represent very good value for money and it's also a acceptable number for the selling club. Both Woody and Watzke knows this and that's why they will reach an agreement before the window is over.
Forget about the agent, he's just promoting himself to find new clients.
Absolutely, we'd have plenty of money left over so why notTo the Veratti and Pogba thread I guess
Yes yes they are stupid for wanting to keep hold of THEIR player who is under contract till the end of next season. They dont need the money. They are not a rotting relegation threatened team. Their financials are fine.
So, the majority of you wanted him gone? Not how I remember it.
We sold exactly one single player out of our own will and did exactly the same with Lewandowski what you compliment us for in this case.
Dormund can do whatever they want with a player under contract. They can force him to stay like they did with Lewandowski. They had talks for 4 months and they still don't want to give the player what he wants. Held hostage if you like.
Times and English papers know feck all. They didn't report a single thing on this potential transfer until the reports came out from Bild yesterday/today.
Would you want 25mil or a player who doesn't want to be their or
Keep the player for a year and get nothing
While I agree that they should probably cash on Miki, keeping Robert for that one season was a smart move.
Haha I know. I was talking about his peak, I think most of the players start declining after 30... But you are right. In that case I guess we have 2 or 3 years more with Rooney, Young... or we can sign Payet
If you want to keep selling everyone who wants to leave only Pizschek and Schmelzer would be playing for them. You dont just give in to every players' demands. You have a business to run. You have the upper hand. A lot can happen in one year. Like I said they dont care about the 20-25m they would get if they sold him. They arent desperate for money.
Dortmund are a terribly run club. They let their star players like Hummels and Gotze move to Bayern but block out transfers to non rivals.
Like I applauded them for keeping Lewy for his contract since he wanted Bayern too, but why not get a lot of money from another league to strengthen?
Like I applauded them for keeping Lewy for his contract since he wanted Bayern too, but why not get a lot of money from another league to strengthen?
Gotze's release clause was activated. Nothing Dortmund could do about that.
They'll sell, if Mourinho wants him bad enough we'll pay enough to make them.
We should sign in him in January on a free. Hopefully Dortmund will take good care of him for another season.
Tend to agree with this. This transfer is going to happen if our interest is real.
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