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Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Do you want him for the reported €38m?


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Probably. I wasn't aware of the comment towards Klopp though. Gegenpressing is not the definitive answer. Plus, Tuchel did make them play a mixed of both possession and counter based games. Dortmund have the players for it, plus the emergence of that DM young player whose name escapes me at the moment.

Weigl.

Yeah seems mkhitariyan did call Klopp a madman a couple of months ago so it seems that may have been the reason he was not as good in the first two season
 
Leading assist maker in the Bundesliga last season with 15 assists plus he scored 11 goals. No brainer for me and he looks like a premier league player. He'd actually fill probably our biggest need to. We haven't been a.)Creating enough or b.)Scoring enough.
 
apologies I actually read you're first statement wrong. I thought you said top players refuse to sign for mourinho like they did van gaal. Yeah hazard and friends were on holiday.

I actually don't think the incumbent manager has as much swing as people think. Players have chosen Chelsea over SAF knowing full well managers come and go there. Money talks to them sadly more than that.
 
from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
:lol: Delusion is very very strong in that post, that forum poster must have done a lot of ecstasy before posting it.
 
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I actually don't think the incumbent manager has as much swing as people think. Players have chosen Chelsea over SAF knowing full well managers come and go there. Money talks to them sadly more than that.
It's just one of many factors: manager, team mates, club prestige, city, country, future prospects etc etc. Like you said money is far and away the most important though.
 
It's just one of many factors: manager, team mates, club prestige, city, country, future prospects etc etc. Like you said money is far and away the most important though.

On another note is Klopp not showing interest? Reports are he was after Theo so surely he'd
be after Micky first and foremost?
 
yes and it would be a joke.

we received a record fee for hummels for only 365days of contract left.
gündogan was already away since 2 years (and he is injured).
unfortunatelly (for you) we got enough money, and wont let go 3 players in one window.
woodward had to have this idea some month ago...our board was talking about a new contract since month, and gündogan and hummels are already gone, so its like it is.

with micki its more likely that we will finish on a cl-spot, and that will get us money.
without him its less probable.

for a move it has to be massivly more than we would earn from another year cl.

from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
Anchan....you are brilliant....amazing post :lol::lol::lol:
 
On another note is Klopp not showing interest? Reports are he was after Theo so surely he'd
be after Micky first and foremost?
Don't think he had very good seasons under Klopp, someone mentioned earlier Mkhitaryan criticised him as well.
 
:lol: Delusion is very very strong in that post, that forum posted must have done a lot of ecstasy before posting it.

To be fair, slig-chan seems to be the only one on there to agree with that post. And his refusal to use capital letters is even more aggravating in German.

The only other user to agree with that ridiculous post ("girlie") also uses no capital letters... I smell something and it's rather fishy.
 
As a RW. Not as a CF. why would we even by him to play as CM?

He may play him as the CAM. I am hoping he tries Zlatan, Martial and Rashford upfront because I think this front three could be fantastic if they are utilised properly. I also think Zlatan behind Rashford with Henrikh on the right and Martial on the left could be fantastic, but who knows what Jose is planning.
 
Dortmund don't want to accept their low level on the food chain. They are like southampton who breed players for clubs with more money. Holding on to Mkhitaryan will only lose them more money. It's painful but true nonetheless.
 
To be fair, slig-chan seems to be the only one on there to agree with that post. And his refusal to use capital letters is even more aggravating in German.

The only other user to agree with that ridiculous post ("girlie") also uses no capital letters... I smell something and it's rather fishy.
Hmmmm! He seems like a parody account created to antagonize and wind up resident united fans. Judging by the tone you would think, united are trying to buy Muller/Neymar from BM/Barca.

If Mkhitaryan is so hell-bent on leaving, he just needs to pull a Di Maria like stunt right before the pre-season, let's see sig twists the events after that.
 
Dortmund cannot take this stand with him after selling their captain I similar circumstances.
 
We don't deal with super agents apart from the times that we do.
That's some policy right there.

You can't seriously be this naive? It's abundantly clear what I meant - these big players (Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan, Balotelli, Matuidi) allow Raiola the luxurious lifestyle that football agents enjoy. Not Donyell Malen.

Why wouldn't Raiola want to send Mkhitaryan to United? You are potentially the richest club in the world and can pay him an agent fee that only Madrid or Barca could ever hope to match (who are not in for him.)

One thing I have noticed with Raiola's top four clients (above) is that we have been linked with every one of them in the past 2 seasons. I'm convinced he uses our name to jam up interest.
 
Dortmund don't want to accept their low level on the food chain. They are like southampton who breed players for clubs with more money. Holding on to Mkhitaryan will only lose them more money. It's painful but true nonetheless.

I think atm it's just a simple calculation their bosses are doing. If they lose too many of their top players they might now qualify for the CL. How much is that worth to them? A guaranteed 25M €? So after that you also have to factor in that with them they might go further in the CL then with him, which is additional money they might factor in so I can see why they are making the judgment call to rather keep him than accept a low offer from us.
 
To be fair, slig-chan seems to be the only one on there to agree with that post. And his refusal to use capital letters is even more aggravating in German.

The only other user to agree with that ridiculous post ("girlie") also uses no capital letters... I smell something and it's rather fishy.
I wouldn't be surprised if it is him.
 
I think atm it's just a simple calculation their bosses are doing. If they lose too many of their top players they might now qualify for the CL. How much is that worth to them? A guaranteed 25M €? So after that you also have to factor in that with them they might go further in the CL then with him, which is additional money they might factor in so I can see why they are making the judgment call to rather keep him than accept a low offer from us.

I'm not sure an unhappy player is worth anything considering this is a player who everyone says needs everything to be just right for him to perform to his level.
 
To be fair, slig-chan seems to be the only one on there to agree with that post. And his refusal to use capital letters is even more aggravating in German.

The only other user to agree with that ridiculous post ("girlie") also uses no capital letters... I smell something and it's rather fishy.

:lol:
 
Dortmund cannot take this stand with him after selling their captain I similar circumstances.

Why not? They said not more than two key players to leave in a transfer window, which is a reasonable stance to take from the clubs perspective. The team could very well fall apart and they might have a bad season if they let too many of their experienced players go. The only way it would really be a scumbag move is if they had really given their promise to Mkhitaryan and his camp that he could leave this summer if they get a good enough offer, which is something that Watzke denies to have ever given so it's their word against his.

So either they are doing a Lewandowski here or they give in to their players demands and let him just go, which of course would send a bad signal to the remaining key-players like Aubameyang and Reus. So Dortmund is a bid in a bad spot here, their project atm is threatening to completely fall apart and I can understand why they will probably fight hard to prevent that from happening.
 
I'm not sure an unhappy player is worth anything considering this is a player who everyone says needs everything to be just right for him to perform to his level.

There is no such thing as an unhappy player. If you decide to sulk and not do your work your career is essentially over. No one buys a player who does that as he might do it you as soon as he wants out. But honestly it's in both parties best interest to find a solution they both can live with, as we did with Ronaldo when he wanted to Real.
 
You can't seriously be this naive? It's abundantly clear what I meant - these big players (Ibrahimovic, Mkhitaryan, Balotelli, Matuidi) allow Raiola the luxurious lifestyle that football agents enjoy. Not Donyell Malen.

Why wouldn't Raiola want to send Mkhitaryan to United? You are potentially the richest club in the world and can pay him an agent fee that only Madrid or Barca could ever hope to match (who are not in for him.)

One thing I have noticed with Raiola's top four clients (above) is that we have been linked with every one of them in the past 2 seasons. I'm convinced he uses our name to jam up interest.
Its not naive, that Wenger 'fact' is a fabricated narrative to explain away why you cannot get these transfers done.
If this were a policy you would not have him representing your young players. An agent representing an Arsenal starlet who openly says he wants his players to move every few years?
Yeah that makes sense. If anything that policy is back to front.
If we are going to pretend that Wenger has this moral code then we have to pretend Arsenal never made approaches for Ibra / Mkhitaryan etc. Even your approaches for Saul over the last year. He is a Mendes client after all.
 
Dortmund won't be bullied but it might take up to €35m and a transfer request to make this happen. This will rumble on till August.
 
Its not naive, that Wenger 'fact' is a fabricated narrative to explain away why you cannot get these transfers done.
If this were a policy you would not have him representing your young players. An agent representing an Arsenal starlet who openly says he wants his players to move every few years?
Yeah that makes sense. If anything that policy is back to front.
If we are going to pretend that Wenger has this moral code then we have to pretend Arsenal never made approaches for Ibra / Mkhitaryan etc. Even your approaches for Saul over the last year. He is a Mendes client after all.

I firmly believe we didn't make an approach for Mkhitaryan or Saul and I'm absolutely certain we would never have made a move for Ibrahimovic.

Don't believe everything the paper tells you. Type any of those top Raiola clients into Google with 'arsenal' and you'll see we've been linked to every single one.
 
There is no such thing as an unhappy player. If you decide to sulk and not do your work your career is essentially over. No one buys a player who does that as he might do it you as soon as he wants out. But honestly it's in both parties best interest to find a solution they both can live with, as we did with Ronaldo when he wanted to Real.

Didn't Rojo do that.....
 
So what do the regulars think of him ? I feel a little underwhelmed honestly, but if we got both Embolo and him, I'd be ok seeing as there really are not too many options on players who can play wide right. He doesn't strike to me as a Mourinho type player though.
 
Paul Hirst saying Dortmund will block him moving to us
They were ok selling Hummels to their bitter rivals, but have a problem selling him to a team who they are not going to face at any stage in the season ? (Except if Dortmund play in the EL)?
 
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