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Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Do you want him for the reported €38m?

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roonster09 said:
You do know that 19 million pounds is 24 million euros? Just 5 million pounds less than what Gundogan was sold for and 8 million pounds less than what Hummels was sold for.
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yes and it would be a joke.

we received a record fee for hummels for only 365days of contract left.
gündogan was already away since 2 years (and he is injured).
unfortunatelly (for you) we got enough money, and wont let go 3 players in one window.
woodward had to have this idea some month ago...our board was talking about a new contract since month, and gündogan and hummels are already gone, so its like it is.

with micki its more likely that we will finish on a cl-spot, and that will get us money.
without him its less probable.

for a move it has to be massivly more than we would earn from another year cl.

from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
 
Cassidy said:
I think they are very generous with assists.
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The only thing that gets counted differently in Germany, when it comes to assists, is that you will get an assist if you are fouled for a penalty. Everything else is pretty much the same. Kicker has the same stats and both recieve theirs from OPTA.

The two international sites Whoscored & Squwaka, who are also supplied with stats from OPTA, have him with 15 assists in the league which means he probably got 5 assists from being fouled for penalties and the penalties being converted. Still he was their most important attacking player last season next to Aubameyang. Neither Reus nor Kagawa were on his level.
 
slig said:
yes and it would be a joke.

we received a record fee for hummels for only 365days of contract left.
gündogan was already away since 2 years (and he is injured).
unfortunatelly (for you) we got enough money, and wont let go 3 players in one window.
woodward had to have this idea some month ago...our board was talking about a new contract since month, and gündogan and hummels are already gone, so its like it is.

with micki its more likely that we will finish on a cl-spot, and that will get us money.
without him its less probable.

for a move it has to be massivly more than we would earn from another year cl.

from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
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Would be very surprised if he goes for more than what Hummels sold for.

The other forum quote is hilarious though.
 
NoLogo said:
The only thing that gets counted differently in Germany, when it comes to assists, is that you will get an assist if you are fouled for a penalty. Everything else is pretty much the same. Kicker has the same stats and both recieve theirs from OPTA.

The two international sites Whoscored & Squwaka, who are also supplied with stats from OPTA, have him with 15 assists in the league which means he probably got 5 assists from being fouled for penalties and the penalties being converted. Still he was their most important attacking player last season next to Aubameyang. Neither Reus nor Kagawa were on his level.
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I'm certain thats true here too, at least with some sites at any rate.
 
don't sign old players said:
Why do BVB sell so much? What happened to the heady days when they brought in Sousa, Riedle, Kohler, Moller, Reuter?
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They can't offer the players the money they ask for. Mkhi is the latest example, they have been negotiating with him for at least half a year for a new contract but can't reach an agreement.

The last time they spend a lot of money and tried to buy the best players around the got into some massive debt that almost bankrupted the club, so I feel it's wise for them to not financially overexert themselves and if that means having to let go of your best players, there is not much they can do about it.

Btw it seems like they aren't letting Mkhi go this summer at all but instead do the same they did with Lewa and keep him for another year and then leg go on a free as they apparently value this more than the 20-30M € they might be able to get for him this summer.
 
NinjaFletch said:
I'm certain thats true here too, at least with some sites at any rate.
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Well there must be something different though because all those sites get their stats from OPTA and have different numbers, which only makes sense if the international sites count certain events not as an assist, might also be deflected shot? I don't really know what it is.
 
roonster09 said:
Would be very surprised if he goes for more than what Hummels sold for.

The other forum quote is hilarious though.
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i try to tell you that there will be only two ways: a fee more or equal to the fee of hummels or he stays.

believe it or not.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
I'm not content with Lingard/Mata for our right wing options. Mkhi had his best season playing there - 23 goals, 32 assists. He's fast, intelligent in his decision making, hardworking and can be a strong outlet for us.
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I've been considering it and come to agree that he could indeed work out quite well. I initially had reservations, not because I doubted his quality, but because I thought we wouldn't get the most out of him if he didn't have a free role behind the striker. Having to accommodate Rooney, who looks like he can't play any position other than CAM and is a guaranteed starter complicates things. But I think we can still make it work because he'd be cheap enough and be an upgrade on Mata.
 
NoLogo said:
Well there must be something different though because all those sites get their stats from OPTA and have different numbers, which only makes sense if the international sites count certain events not as an assist, might also be deflected shot? I don't really know what it is.
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Everyone knows that Fantasy Premier League rules should be the official rules, therefore you should get an assist if you win a penalty or a freekick resulting in a goal. Only fair.
 
slig said:
i try to tell you that there will be only two ways: a fee more or equal to the fee of hummels or he stays.

believe it or not.
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And that fee is just 8 million pounds more than the reported bid by guardian. So hardly laughable bid as you said before.
 
Edit: I see I'm late, this has already been discussed on here.

By the way I just read that Mkhitaryan wants to join us this summer but Dortmund apparently would rather want to keep him but now his agent is angry with Dortmund because he claims to have a verbal agreement with them that if an official offer arrives they would let him go.
 
don't sign old players said:
I can see why Bayern is so powerful then.
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I don't think the bailout money the loaned Dortmund has anything to do with it really. Since I can remember following the Bundesliga (mid 90s) they always got the best players in the league apart from a few exceptions. They have been the financially strongest club in the league for easily 3-4 decades now and the gulf between them and the rest of the league has become even bigger in the last 10 years. Dortmund are the only team that can somewhat keep up with them but even they are miles behind. Also there is the case that in Germany players have no problems switching between rival clubs and they also seem to be somewhat smart enough to not extend their contract for 5 years if they want to leave soon.
 
Dortmund seem to be taking a tough stance from those quotes. Hopefully it's just a negotiating tactic.
 
NoLogo said:
The only thing that gets counted differently in Germany, when it comes to assists, is that you will get an assist if you are fouled for a penalty. Everything else is pretty much the same. Kicker has the same stats and both recieve theirs from OPTA.

The two international sites Whoscored & Squwaka, who are also supplied with stats from OPTA, have him with 15 assists in the league which means he probably got 5 assists from being fouled for penalties and the penalties being converted. Still he was their most important attacking player last season next to Aubameyang. Neither Reus nor Kagawa were on his level.
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Either way, those stats are obscene. Even if we were to take out the five from winning penalties (which we shouldn't, those should count as assists IMO), he's still been directly involved in 50 goals in all competitions last season, and thats not counting all the times he played a key pass or started a move. Those are talismanic stats to say the least (not to mention more than we scored in the league last season). Never thought he'd be a player I'd want, but feck me, lets break the bank for him.
 
Ban said:
So what's the news, he wants to come to United and Dortmund won't let him?
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He wants to come to United, he only has 1 year left on his contract, but Dortmund won't let him go unless they get a satisfactory offer (I'm guessing around 30 million pounds).
 
slig said:
yes and it would be a joke.

we received a record fee for hummels for only 365days of contract left.
gündogan was already away since 2 years (and he is injured).
unfortunatelly (for you) we got enough money, and wont let go 3 players in one window.
woodward had to have this idea some month ago...our board was talking about a new contract since month, and gündogan and hummels are already gone, so its like it is.

with micki its more likely that we will finish on a cl-spot, and that will get us money.
without him its less probable.

for a move it has to be massivly more than we would earn from another year cl.

from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
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Yeah can't see that stance to be honest mate as you will probably sell Aubam if a nice fee comes in so that's another player to the two already gone! So Aubam gets to go but Mhkitarian stays out of principle because we want him and have money but aren't in the CL? Tell you what Dortmund should do if they are worried about CL... Buy a replacement.
 
"MKHITARYAN 'WANTS TO GO TO UNITED'

Borussia Dortmund attacker Henrikh Mkhitaryan would love to joinMan Utd this summer, according to the player's agent.

“Manchester United is a unique opportunity, Micki wants to go there,” said Mino Raiola."

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so lets see how precious micki is to united. "micki wants to go there" ok. but how strong united wants him?

think the best player of the bundesliga is expensive. but nothing "the biggest club in the world" cant afford...we will see how important is a micki-tranfer for them. unitl now, he got a contract with us, thats the reality united has to face.

the first rumoured numbers are nothing our board would think about.
 
Donut said:
He wants to come to United, he only has 1 year left on his contract, but Dortmund won't let him go unless they get a satisfactory offer (I'm guessing around 30 million pounds).
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Well Watzke's direct words were that they won't let three of their key players go in one season and Mkhi would be the third after Hummels and Gündogan already left. Would be really annoying if that is the reason we can't get him this summer but it might very well be.
 
His stats are very impressive. Anyone noticed that good players actually want to come here now we have a top manager. Zlatan and Mkhitaryan would never come here if LVG was still the manager.
 
Kasper said:
People would moan anyway. When the refused to sell lewandowski with 1 year left on his contract people were screaming "OMG, how can they let him go for free to Bayern?". When they sell Hummels with one year left, they're spineless. It's a lose lose situation.
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:lol: true, but Ffs have some consistency
 
slig said:
yes and it would be a joke.

we received a record fee for hummels for only 365days of contract left.
gündogan was already away since 2 years (and he is injured).
unfortunatelly (for you) we got enough money, and wont let go 3 players in one window.
woodward had to have this idea some month ago...our board was talking about a new contract since month, and gündogan and hummels are already gone, so its like it is.

with micki its more likely that we will finish on a cl-spot, and that will get us money.
without him its less probable.

for a move it has to be massivly more than we would earn from another year cl.

from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
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HAHAHAH!!
 
NoLogo said:
Well Watzke's direct words were that they won't let three of their key players go in one season and Mkhi would be the third after Hummels and Gündogan already left. Would be really annoying if that is the reason we can't get him this summer but it might very well be.
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Yeah, just saw those quotes. Hopefully they're just playing tough. There's no reason to keep a disgruntled player who's in the last year of his contract, who won't extend and you have a decent offer on the table. Even we were about to sell De Gea.
 
Fortis Mente said:
His stats are very impressive. Anyone noticed that good players actually want to come here now we have a top manager. Zlatan and Mkhitaryan would never come here if LVG was still the manager.
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Why do you think Micki wouldn't have come here if LVG was in charge? He's never worked with either of them before AFAIK
 
Fortis Mente said:
His stats are very impressive. Anyone noticed that good players actually want to come here now we have a top manager. Zlatan and Mkhitaryan would never come here if LVG was still the manager.
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Not only that, if LVG was still the manager DDG would be off.
 
slig said:
yes and it would be a joke.

we received a record fee for hummels for only 365days of contract left.
gündogan was already away since 2 years (and he is injured).
unfortunatelly (for you) we got enough money, and wont let go 3 players in one window.
woodward had to have this idea some month ago...our board was talking about a new contract since month, and gündogan and hummels are already gone, so its like it is.

with micki its more likely that we will finish on a cl-spot, and that will get us money.
without him its less probable.

for a move it has to be massivly more than we would earn from another year cl.

from another forum, a quote that says it quite well:
Man Utd have their backs to the wall. Several extremely poor seasons in succession, a squad which does not meet their own requirements/claims (?) , only EL, to a new coach certainly not mediocre participates. and it is the richest club in the world.
They can spend. Let them see where they otherwise get another player. 50m € + or in exchange for Martial. Otherwise I would not do anything.
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Could you link the forum please?
 
slig said:
so lets see how precious micki is to united. "micki wants to go there" ok. but how strong united wants him?

think the best player of the bundesliga is expensive. but nothing "the biggest club in the world" cant afford...we will see how important is a micki-tranfer for them. unitl now, he got a contract with us, thats the reality united has to face.

the first rumoured numbers are nothing our board would think about.
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Would you want to keep him if we offered say £25m? I think if you rejected that then your pride would be getting in the way of sense.
 
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