Great, I'm going to have to learn how to spell his name.
Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer
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I'm worried by this as they also made Lewandowski contract to run down.
They kept Lewa against his will for another year and lost out on money, won't be the slightest surprised if they do the same with Micki due to them already loosing Hummels and Gundogan. Serious questions will be asked by their other stars like Reus and Auba if they let three of their best players go in the same window.
Imagine if Auba hands in a transfer request right after Micki goes, that will be their entire team deconstrected.
Imagine if Auba hands in a transfer request right after Micki goes, that will be their entire team deconstrected.
The Raiola fable is BS, we negotiated seamlessly with him last summer.
I think the main reason they kept Lewandowski is because he was hell bent on joining Bayern.
they should have had this stance for Hummels. spineless
Yeah, sorry but that´s nonsense. Our officials know exactly where the club stands. Watzke does not get tired to explain the financial differences between us and Bayern or other elite clubs and our transfer activities this Summer show exactly that.
We are a tier II club below the elite, but at the same time established ourselves as one of the top adresses in Terms of scouting and talent development, which is why top level talents like Mor or Dembele prefer us over seemingly bigger fishes.
That is quite frankly the only way we can keep up on the pitch with the big guns. We don´t have the cash to pay for superstars, so we make them. When these players then after four or five years decide to become too big for the club, we make a hefty profit on them and then invest in the next (arguably bigger) talent. Meanwhile the players we "feed"´to the elite clubs struggle outside the comfort zone Borussia Dortmund with a pretty high regularity.
Now, maybe this is looked down on by some fans from elite clubs, because they see this as behaviour of a feeder club, which it is, but then again you can count the number of non feeder clubs on two hands. Others see it as spineless as the club we are supposed to rival domestically is one of the clubs who take players from us. I quite frankly don´t care as for me what counts in the end is what happens on the pitch and there we played for the vast majority of the last years more exciting and better football than several of these so called elite clubs while investing a fraction of the money they did. I also love watching young hungry players who burn to pay for us grow right before my eyes so that is an additional plus for me.
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The cases of Lewandowski and Mkhitaryan are very different on multiple levels. The one you mentioned is just one of them.
Do you think that perhaps the signing of Dembele will lead you to sell Mhiki to us this season? Having a demotivated guy with a dodgy psyche and loose him on a free next year seems counterproductive, I am guessing that with your scouting network and nose for deals you will sign someone like Bazoer or Tielemans with the profit.
Please say yes so I can say MhikitaryON
Genuine question. How long would you be happy with the current situation. Because sooner or later, some of the younger talents you find are going to not produce.
What I am inferring from your post is more of a sign of resignation from the board. Again, I am not trying to mock your club or anything, just genuinely interested in knowing how long do you think the fans will accept this before turning on the board?
thx for this great post!
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micki wont leave this summer.
as long as someone offer us immense amount of money. even then i think watzke sticks to his words and just say: there is a contract, next year you can do what you want.
i would be surprised if micki hears on raiola..a move to united would be so stupid.
only el, mourinho as a coach of a mediocre squad where nobody knows if it will be in the top4 again...
adding the fact that we all know micki needs really a comfortable enviroment to play good, it did need 2 years and a tuchel to get him to the point where he plays like he played the last season.
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turinng in the board? sometimes someone should know our history: 10 years ago we nearly faced shutdown cause of thousands of faults in the past from a past board.
the club was saved by the board which is now in charge, and 10 years later we are germanys nr.2 and a hot club in europe.
which fan would turning on the board? nobody.
its still like a fairytale.
They will sell. What's the point of keeping a player that wants out to let them leave on a free. Never understood this.
This has to be a WUM surely?
Is it only me who thinks BVB are in the wrong here?
Bit of a dick move to promise a player he can move only to let two others go and say... You know what? You're staying.
Why make the promise in the first place? It's not as if Hummels and Gundogan moved out of the blue.
Bit of a dick move to promise a player he can move only to let two others go and say... You know what? You're staying.
Why make the promise in the first place? It's not as if Hummels and Gundogan moved out of the blue.
can you please explain me the phrase "WUM"?
It might seem weird but it's very easy to live with the idea that players will leave and be replaced by potential, I support a Super Rugby team and it's what happens every year, every year the franchise lose its best players, they join Europe for a lot of money. It's very easy to move on and most of the time the teams are managed by great coaches who have the ability to develop players.
He would be an exciting signing. I'm not sure he would combine well with Ibrahimovic but Martial and Rashford would absolutely love playing with him imo.
please dont believe everything raiola say!
month ago he said in the newspaper micki wont leave, and was talking with the board about a new contract.
a few month late he claims that somebody promised micki can leave
its raiola....
We gave them shinji back so cheaply. We also bought him at high price. Come on dortmund do us a favour you cnuts.
You need to put him on ignore. He is a constant WUM and I am absolutely stunned he got promoted.
TBF I dont think he is a genuine WUM, he is just one of those stick up his ass guys about the whole BL \ PL power dynamics and also Dortmund's power dynamics as compared to clubs like Manchester United etc.
can you explain me whats the problem please?
I don't know about that. His numbers from last year are very good but he's not really someone that excites me.
Wind up merchant.
WUM is someone who makes a comment or post with full intention of winding up people mainly for getting attention by posting stuff which is unpopular.
Like if you say 'mediocre squad' with mourinho. United squad isn't much worse than Arsenal or city squads. With mourinho the van gaal squad becomes considerably better. as for the 'you don't know if you could be top 4', the same could be applicable to any of the other teams too in the PL.
Yeah I first thought he was a Liverpool fan but surprised as I had pegged Dortmund fans as better than this.
Because everything Raiola says is the truth? Do you know anything about that guy? Anyone who believes Watzke makes these kind of promises unofficially does not know much about him either and certainly not how we as club operate.
Why in the world would we do that? We grow financially every year, play most of the time highly entertaining football on a level with way richer club and have put quite a distance between us and every German club not named Bayern Munich. People act like losing players to bigger clubs is something out of the ordinary . We do the exact same thing to smaller clubs, just a level lower.
There is quite frankly also no alternative outside taking major financial risks and try to compete with bigger clubs outside the pitch aswell. Did not end well for us.
Seeing as it's him that wants to leave your club for ours, maybe you ought to address this to micki_10@bvb.com rather than post it on here.
Indeed, Dortmund have come along way over the years tbh, its tough losing players but they always replace and remain competitive. Hopefully soon though they can get to a stage where players don't leave for Bayern
I really hope we sign him. He is my favourite Armenian footballer.
Watzke basically saying up your offer United. Woody your turn
They'll keep him. The upheaval of Mkhitaryan leaving in addition to Gundogan & Hummels is not going to be offset by the financial rewards of selling a player in the final year of his deal.
I actually wouldn't be at all surprised to see him sign a new deal; he's playing the best football of his career under Tuchel and using United's name to expedite the renegotiation with Dortmund and in return offering us more favourable terms in our discussions over Ibrahimovic, would be a very 'Raiola' thing to do.
I actually wouldn't be at all surprised to see him sign a new deal; he's playing the best football of his career under Tuchel and using United's name to expedite the renegotiation with Dortmund and in return offering us more favourable terms in our discussions over Ibrahimovic, would be a very 'Raiola' thing to do.
Woody will offer whatever they want, and an extra 10 mill on top.
Martial - Zlatan - Mkhitaryan
That'd be some front three. Goals and assists aplenty.
Is there a list of Raiola lies? He seems very blunt to me.
I don't think there was much wrong with that last post but some of your posts are really bizarre to put it mildly. I don't have any qualms in admitting that the Dortmund team last season was better than United but you have been nonstop about belittling Mourinho and some of our players. You do realize you are on a Manchester United fan forum?
Back to the topic, I admire BVB's stance when it comes to players. I would like Henrikh here but I don't mind a club really sticking to their guns and I would expect us to do the same whenever a Madrid come calling for DDG.
Lot of Kevin De Bruyne to his game. Still, when I watch him on the big stage, not convinced he has enough arrogance or self-belief, and thus fear he will always be supporting cast here. Definitely a risk, but he bottles a lot of chances when it matters. That seems innate too, as Martial is opposite despite being young, for example.
I don´t see him playing for Dortmund next year. They put themselves in a bad position regarding their fans with this only 2 will leave statment, but it seems as mkhitaryan is doing everything to force this. Mkhitaryan for me always seemed like he struggles with mental issues, he admitted the high fee and expectations after his transfer to dortmund limited him in his first season and only after tuchel arrived he was able to show what he is cappable of doing.
So i think dortmund will consider this and could be afraid of him playing a woeful season for them. On the other side with two main guys gone and reus being out for probably a very long time they might need to stick with him. Personally i think he is very bad advised and if he moves to united i guess he busts, because he needs to much time to get to his level and has problems handling the pressure (which will be even bigger than in dortmund). Also think mou might not be the coach who fits him to well and he´ll regret leaving dortmund and especially tuchel.
(All just my thoughts)
So i think dortmund will consider this and could be afraid of him playing a woeful season for them. On the other side with two main guys gone and reus being out for probably a very long time they might need to stick with him. Personally i think he is very bad advised and if he moves to united i guess he busts, because he needs to much time to get to his level and has problems handling the pressure (which will be even bigger than in dortmund). Also think mou might not be the coach who fits him to well and he´ll regret leaving dortmund and especially tuchel.
(All just my thoughts)
Should i learn his name's spelling yet?
That is why i like and respect BD. You go against the current trend of short term gains. Kudos where ita due.
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