Henrikh Mkhitaryan | BVB confirm transfer

Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Do you want him for the reported €38m?

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Infra-red said:
They'll keep him. The upheaval of Mkhitaryan leaving in addition to Gundogan & Hummels is not going to be offset by the financial rewards of selling a player in the final year of his deal.

I actually wouldn't be at all surprised to see him sign a new deal; he's playing the best football of his career under Tuchel and using United's name to expedite the renegotiation with Dortmund and in return offering us more favourable terms in our discussions over Ibrahimovic, would be a very 'Raiola' thing to do.
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Given how aggressively Raiola is behaving, I seriously doubt that.
Their opening move was to burn most of the bridges with the officials and fans.
 
prath92 said:
WUM is someone who makes a comment or post with full intention of winding up people mainly for getting attention by posting stuff which is unpopular.

Like if you say 'mediocre squad' with mourinho. United squad isn't much worse than Arsenal or city squads. With mourinho the van gaal squad becomes considerably better. as for the 'you don't know if you could be top 4', the same could be applicable to any of the other teams too in the PL.
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yes you are right, the same for the other teams! ok so it turns out that some phrases are not so "bad" for me like for some others. youre right, for example citys squad is not better, but for me all these squads need to sort out, its a sympthom of the pl-money: squads are compiled inappropriate and overpriced. for the amount of money these squads are mediocre. look at the investments made every year and on the results coming out of it.

sorry for my exaggerated phrases, will try to avoid this in the future and be more precise. at least this is something why iam here, to practise a little bit of my bad english. so thanks that you explain me what was the problem!

just wanted to say, that it needs a lot to play wonderful football again, and thatswhy its not understandable for me why a micki should move, he is functioning the first time after 2 years, while united still needs to change a lot. and i think its not the best enviroment for him. this situation with united. also i dont know if he is the right player for united in this situation, thats another important point! his skillz there is no doubt about it, but his mentality?!

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i only can repeat watzke will stick to his words, micki wont leave. this is something raiola has to deal with, he can rant like he wants. if micki wanted to move they both would have said it month or year ago. now its to late. one year contract left, over and out. whats for sure is that we aren't stupid, as long as nobody comes out with an mega-offer, he stays.
 
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cyberman said:
Is it only me who thinks BVB are in the wrong here?
Bit of a dick move to promise a player he can move only to let two others go and say... You know what? You're staying.
Why make the promise in the first place? It's not as if Hummels and Gundogan moved out of the blue.
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Exactly. Why make it. Maybe they didn´t.
 
Sphaero said:
Because everything Raiola says is the truth? Do you know anything about that guy? Anyone who believes Watzke makes these kind of promises unofficially does not know much about him either and certainly not how we as club operate.



Why in the world would we do that? We grow financially every year, play most of the time highly entertaining football on a level with way richer club and have put quite a distance between us and every German club not named Bayern Munich. People act like losing players to bigger clubs is something out of the ordinary . We do the exact same thing to smaller clubs, just a level lower.

There is quite frankly also no alternative outside taking major financial risks and try to compete with bigger clubs outside the pitch aswell. Did not end well for us.
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Because, what you have described about dortmund is basically Arsenal of the past decade and you see their fans turning on the board.
 
bleedred said:
Because, what you have described about dortmund is basically Arsenal of the past decade and you see their fans turning on the board.
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With the difference that we compete for titles every year. Maybe letting go of self proclaimed leaders and players who lack the balls for the most crucial moments, we might actually win some titles again.
 
He's an OK player but doesn't really excite me. When he was in talks with Liverpool I thought be was about their level but nothing to be worried about missing out on.

If he was on a free transfer then by all means he'd be worth a big contract for 4 years, but there's nothing he does that Mata can't do, so Mourinho should get over his issue with Mata.

From Dortmund's point of view I think it would be worth holding onto him for the last year of his contract, fees have gone crazy with the influx of money from China and the Prem. Even if they got €20m-€25m for him now, that wouldn't buy much and they'll have all next season to scout a replacement if they hold out.
 
Sphaero said:
With the difference that we compete for titles every year. Maybe letting go of self proclaimed leaders and players who lack the balls for the most crucial moments, we might actually win some titles again.
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So what are your thoughts? Micki will stay and leave on a free? Didn't your club say they wouldn't do that again after Lewa?
 
BVB are well within their rights to keep Mikhi, but he's not one that we desperately need. I'm a fan of having genuine forwards in wing positions than no. 10s, which is what Liverpool have with Coutinho, Firmino and Lallana competing for positions around the central striker (ideally Sturridge)
 
bleedred said:
Because, what you have described about dortmund is basically Arsenal of the past decade and you see their fans turning on the board.
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There are some significant differences though: Arsenal are far richer and their season tickets are the most expensive in the world. Understandable that the fans expect more rather than pissing about in 3rd/4th.

Also, Dortmund not that long ago won two league titles and got to a Champions League final.
 
NK86 said:
I don't think there was much wrong with that last post but some of your posts are really bizarre to put it mildly. I don't have any qualms in admitting that the Dortmund team last season was better than United but you have been nonstop about belittling Mourinho and some of our players. You do realize you are on a Manchester United fan forum?

Back to the topic, I admire BVB's stance when it comes to players. I would like Henrikh here but I don't mind a club really sticking to their guns and I would expect us to do the same whenever a Madrid come calling for DDG.
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ok i understand and will try to change.

but for the issues with mourinho:
i tried to explain my personal worrys about him, but in the (good) discussion it turned out that there is nobody i can imagine as an alternative. but i stick to my opinion: mou is not the best for rebuilding united longtermly, and there are reasons for my though. so i was not belittling mourinho, just shared my point of view while 90% of the others though "oh my god wonderful, we will be great againg now" without any critisism , although with van gaal it was the same.
 
kr0nix said:
BVB are well within their rights to keep Mikhi, but he's not one that we desperately need. I'm a fan of having genuine forwards in wing positions than no. 10s, which is what Liverpool have with Coutinho, Firmino and Lallana competing for positions around the central striker (ideally Sturridge)
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Coutinho and Lallana are everything else than genuine forwards. Coutinho is a 10 and Lallana is an average winger/10 hybrid.
 
izec said:
Coutinho and Lallana are everything else than genuine forwards. Coutinho is a 10 and Lallana is an average winger/10 hybrid.
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That's what I meant when I said I wanted genuine forwards in wing positions rather than no. 10s.
 
kr0nix said:
That's what I meant when I said I wanted genuine forwards in wing positions rather than no. 10s.
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Yeah, me too. But Mkhitaryan has a good ouput and is defensively solid, workrate wise. Plus he wouldnt cost a fortune
 
If BD decide to run his contract down,it would funny as feck if Bayern get him next year for free,it would be their trademark move,reject money from abroad just to give him for free to their rival.
 
ChaddyP said:
they should have had this stance for Hummels. spineless
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People would moan anyway. When the refused to sell lewandowski with 1 year left on his contract people were screaming "OMG, how can they let him go for free to Bayern?". When they sell Hummels with one year left, they're spineless. It's a lose lose situation.
 
Kasper said:
People would moan anyway. When the refused to sell lewandowski with 1 year left on his contract people were screaming "OMG, how can they let him go for free to Bayern?". When they sell Hummels with one year left, they're spineless. It's a lose lose situation.
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I don't have much sympathy for them. They seem to be in this situation almost every summer now. I thought the policy at most clubs was when you're about to enter into the final 2 years of your contract, you either renew or you're shipped out. Huddlestone said he was shocked when that wasn't the case when he moved to Hull.
 
Too bad that they already sold Hummels and Gündogan and have enough funds for this window. City fecked us even more with this transfer :(
Hopefully they don't want a totally unmotivated player for the next season
 
slig said:
if thats true, our board has something to laugh about today.

micki will stay as long as there is no spectacluar bid.
we need him and not some money.
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But he doesn't need you, no point in keeping a player who doesn't want to play for you.
 
Saw this on Twitter
Mkhitaryan managed 21 goals and 20 assists last season whilst Juan Mata and Jesse Lingard managed 16 goals and 11 assists combined.
Crazy stats
 
slig said:
if thats true, our board has something to laugh about today.

micki will stay as long as there is no spectacluar bid.
we need him and not some money.
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You do know that 19 million pounds is 24 million euros? Just 5 million pounds less than what Gundogan was sold for and 8 million pounds less than what Hummels was sold for.
 
Dortmund won't be bullied. Will take a ridiculous offer to get him.
 
ManUchosenbosslvg said:
He's an OK player but doesn't really excite me. When he was in talks with Liverpool I thought be was about their level but nothing to be worried about missing out on.

If he was on a free transfer then by all means he'd be worth a big contract for 4 years, but there's nothing he does that Mata can't do, so Mourinho should get over his issue with Mata.

From Dortmund's point of view I think it would be worth holding onto him for the last year of his contract, fees have gone crazy with the influx of money from China and the Prem. Even if they got €20m-€25m for him now, that wouldn't buy much and they'll have all next season to scout a replacement if they hold out.
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I think he's bigger, stronger and faster than Mata. I also think he will offer more defensively than Mata.

I find Dortmunds stance admirable in one aspect but very foolish in another. I don't think they will let him go for free like they did with Lewandowski as they are 2 different scenarios.

If they sold Lewandowski it was to their direct rivals and in a season they thought they could compete with them.

In this case they would be selling him out of the league for 20-30m.

They have a serious issue with losing their best talents unfortunately and I can only see Aubamayang leaving too.
 
Leftback99 said:
Dortmund won't be bullied. Will take a ridiculous offer to get him.
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They have sold many players for not so ridiculous price. IIRC they wanted 30 million euros for Lewandowski but Bayern didnt make the offer. Gundogan for 30 million euros, Hummels for 35 million euros, Kagawa for 15 million.
 
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