Just done it.
Erik ten Hag | 2024/25 | Votes can now be changed
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Win the next 3 and we'll be in touching distance. Teams around 4th will drop points.
I think the club ideally want to wait for closer to Christmas (probably when the stadium plans are announced) before sacking him. But by then it will be too much to claw back. It's either make the change now or accept that CL qualification is very unlikely to happen.
Stop these catty back and forth’s, you and whoever is engaging. If you guys can’t get along then don’t message each other.
The OP makes clear that this thread won’t be a continuation of the last.
Thanks.
13th on Goals scored, 14th in the EPL suggests that’s our current position in EPL football, in which case he needs to go this week and a more suitable Coach come into get United into the top 5 of the PL, this also suggests we need a coach that averages 2 goals per game played!
If I remember correctly we got worse a few weeks before with martinez injurie. I was really surprised that we managed to win the final so easily under this circumstances (I gave all the credit to ETH).
Seeing this table is just depressing ... ManUtd -2 GD after 60 games ... bloody hell
There is a petition now
Am I right in saying that Ashworth has only ever sacked one manager in his career? Hughton at Brighton. I could be missing something but doesn't sound like something he's very experienced with.
Well he's decent at relegation battles.
Big Sam?
Some of us wanted him gone regardless of the FA Cup win.
Better than our current massive tit though, who is a tit that can't effectively manage his football team.
Dont you fecking dare Gary.
Gary going for the job now that Erik’s recent record is worse than his
For England maybe, but that had nothing to with performance so unless Ten Hag is currently meeting with an undercover journalist to discuss dodgy dealings...
Someone lock gaz in the shitter.
Why?
Is this actually true? I saw the pic of the comparison but would be great to have the proof in front of me. @RedSky
What’s our win/loss record for the calendar year 2024 (and only including this years results is being generous)?
Surely all they need to do is look at that see all the evidence they need to make a call.
Surely all they need to do is look at that see all the evidence they need to make a call.
Just had a look at his history. Only two sackings, though a number of appointments.
West Brom:
- They were relegated and Tony Mobray took over at Celtic (perhaps he would have sacked him but he didn't need to)
- Appointed Di Matteo in 2009
- Sacked Di Matteo in 2011
- Appointed Roy Hodgson in 2011
- Hodgson left to take the England job in 2012
- Appointed Steve Clarke in 2012
- Ashworth left West Brom in 2013 and Steve Clarke was still the manager, though he got sacked in December 2013
- He joined in February and Hughton was sacked at the end of the season and replaced him with Potter
- Left while Potter was still in charge
Newcastle:
- No managerial changes
Didn't realise he was at West Brom. Cheers. Previous behaviour is best indication for future actions. Ashworth definitely isn't someone who regularly sacks managers and is actually less experienced than Woodward in that regard.
Gary Glazer.
It does if it was pretty unique to that situation and having one of the best players of all time and a club legend rejoining the club just a few months before. We don't have that this time and there likely isn't the same toxic atmosphere around the squad now as there was 3 years ago. Morale and confidence are just low.
Just because something didn't work in th past dosn't mean it isn't the right route to go down again if you need to.
My post was poorly worded I agree an interim should be doing everything you've just described. But what I should have said was they should also be focusing on raising morale.
As for the new Interim/Coach improving the organisation and pressing tactics of the team. Let's be honest we're so poorly coached in just about every aspect that anyone be pretty much starting over again. Even if an Interim coach tries to successfully implement that mid-season (unlikely) the next permanent coach is basically going to be starting from scratch anyway in pre-season, so there's little to lose at this stage.
But european football, especially CL football is vital to the clubs business model. Ratcliffe has said as much, we can't be fecking about for 2-3 seasons in the EL/ECL or not in europe at all. So if an Interim is brought in with the mandate to get Euro football then so be it. Being in the CL or at least the EL next year would be much more useful to the next permanent coach than an Interim trying to undo 3 years of Ten Hag's poor coaching.
| Games | W | W% | D | D% | L | L% | GF | GA | GD |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
All Comps | 35 | 17 | 48.6% | 9 | 25.7% | 9 | 25.7% | 68 | 53 | +15 |
PL Only | 25 | 11 | 44.0% | 5 | 20.0% | 9 | 36.0% | 40 | 39 | +1 |
If it was Salford, he'd have sacked Ten Hag months ago
I don't know why he's so set on United being stuck with managers. Especially now where Ten Hag is clearly putting his self-interest ahead of the club.
Definitely not, at this stage he's got away with more than Moyes, Jose, and Ole got the sack for combined.
He is irrelevant in Grand Scheme of things anybody who thinks otherwise is being Naive .
Bring back Ed. Edd n Edy too.Didn't realise he was at West Brom. Cheers. Previous behaviour is best indication for future actions. Ashworth definitely isn't someone who regularly sacks managers and is actually less experienced than Woodward in that regard.
Having watched him on that tippy tappy podcast I don’t think he’s really with it
You're making sense. I hope you're right.
Maybe Joel Glazer is interviewing for the job? I would even accept him right now.
Do people not realise it's early October or something
If we string results together we can challenge for top 4, it's just that we don't look likely to click anytime soon
Good post and very logical. I am praying you are right.
Gary Neville buzzing after that 0-0 away draw at Villa.
does to show how things are different here, youd imagine if that was in france, italy or spain, the ultras etc would be out in force, letting Big Jim know exactly what they think for us being 14th..