Erik ten Hag | 2022/23 & 2023/24

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tjb said:
I wanted him gone, but I'll back him.
Ironically, the fact that they did the review and it took as long as it did makes me feel they really took their time to investigate and come to the conclusion that he can be a good coach for us.
However, there aren't any excuses for Ten Haag regardless of what we do in the market.
The football we play has to be good this season from the very start. We cannot afford to waste another season.
INEOS have taken a massive gamble in keeping him, so they have to act as fast as possible if it doesn't seem to be working early. For me, this means as quickly as a sack in late September.

Ten Haag, regardless of who we buy, has the show that he can play football that produces chances and keeps us in control of games. No more ridiculous risks. His first season had spells of that type of football and for any support, he would have to show that United can dominate games consistently against teams as soon as preseason. He's starting with negative credit in the bank. He has to prove he's actually a good coach now.

My thoughts are that we are keeping him on due to belief in what he can offer in terms of the football side of things, based on his first season and his bringing through of some of our younger players. This decision means that they believe that he can coach, and they will remove the responsibilities on his plate regarding squad management and transfers. There are no excuses for him. I feel he played on the sentiment of our fans, which kept him his job. That wouldn't fly again...this time, if he doesn't step up, it would ruin his career. There won't be any "United didn't give him a chance" nonsense.
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But there will be excuses. "Ten Hag never wanted that player!", "not enough have been moved on!" etc etc. Ultimately we had a shocking season and the excuses worked, so we as a club accept shite excuses. That's just where we are right now.
 
Probably the right decision all things considered. There's a real dearth of quality managers available at the moment. Let's see how the first few months of next season goes with (hopefully) fewer injuries. If come December we see no change and Mckenna is tearing it up at Ipswich, then the decision becomes obvious.
 
Correct decision. Once Tuchel was out, had to be ETH. The others were not very inspiring and some were absolutely depressing (southy).

Low key pumped. I hope this also takes away some player power.
 
Him staying is one thing, but why are we offering him a new contract when we already have an option to automatically extend his current deal another year if he is successful?
 
Sarni said:
Nah. Like I said previously, I believe he’s completely safe for all of next season and up until middle of the following one regardless of results. If things are very bad then they will revisit but if he survived last season the bar for the upcoming couple of years has to be very, very low or else it’s unfair.
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Up to now I thought you were being facetious, but now I completely agree with your outlook
 
Andy_Cole said:
INEOS have acted like clowns this summer though.
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I don't think they have. I think the process they used actually showed that they are putting a system in place. The problem is fans reading media dribble everyday from people forced to talk about the club with no sources. They would have been irresponsible not to plan for a replacement which is why they sounded out other managers. It taking this long only proves that they took a measured approach, analyzed the situation and came to a decision.
 
Winrar said:
Not happy about this at all, but at least we can put this saga to bed.

Surely ETH is the most backed manager I’ve seen and has to deliver improvements next season? I don’t know if I can take it if we start our next season like we did our last against Wolves.
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If we finish 6th by scraping results I might just blow a gasket after all of this :lol:

Whatever. On to transfers. I’ve said everything I’ve wanted to say for months in here. Hope we improve massively next season as there aren’t any excuses at this point. I don’t give a flying feck if Martinez misses a month or two.
 
Skills said:
The collective fanbase does.

If this goes tits up, there's no more hiding behind 'it's the glazers fault'. The fanbase once again vocally made their opinion clear, the club wilted/followed it - now the entire football can watch and see if the fanbase has half a clue.
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You dont need to wait for next season, the answer is obvious.
 
Fairy nuff, Jim. ETH has won a trophy per season so far and there aren't any stellar alternatives beating down the door to come in. Just focus on coaching the team rather than salivating over yet more signings from the dutch league. The contract extension is fine since there is liable to be an exit clause that depends on performance. Southgate-shaped bullet dodged.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
If we finish 6th by scraping results I might just blow a gasket after all of this :lol:

Whatever. On to transfers. I’ve said everything I’ve wanted to say for months in here. Hope we improve massively next season as there aren’t any excuses at this point. I don’t give a flying feck if Martinez misses a month or two.
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If we finish 6th it'll be deemed an improvement and thus success. Not saying that's what I believe, but it'll be the narrative.
 
Dazzmondo said:
Him staying is one thing, but why are we offering him a new contract when we already have an option to automatically extend his current deal another year if he is successful?
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Removing the Veto on transfers, if it was written in, possibly. Adding severance conditions on performance? Could be anything.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
If we finish 6th by scraping results I might just blow a gasket after all of this :lol:

Whatever. On to transfers. I’ve said everything I’ve wanted to say for months in here. Hope we improve massively next season as there aren’t any excuses at this point. I don’t give a flying feck if Martinez misses a month or two.
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8th to 6th? That’s progression?

Champions in 27/28.
 
Honest to God, if he can just be as pragmatic as he was in the Cup final all season (as he was for most of his first season after the Brentford debacle) we'll finish fourth fairly easily. I just hope he can be trusted to do that and not revert to the psychotically open transition football that made everyone want to play us from the time Wolves ran through our midfield on day one of last season.
 
Jeffthered said:
An absolutely shocking move. The club has gone. INEOS will just manage the brand. This decision is bad news for Manchester United as a football team.

Not a thing will change. ETH has proven to be an extremely limited coach.

They are keeping him because no one wants the job. What an utter, utter, utter shambles.

Erik Ten Hag. Unreal.
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See you in the Stretty
 
bstb3 said:
Glad it's finally resolved. Happy for ETH he can mug off the 'journalists' we have now, they deserve it. In the conditions of who is available it's the best choice to go one more year - the extension if there is one needs to be worded carefully but if he is confident of improvement that shouldn't be hard to achieve.
We need as fans to get behind him now, if we have one bad result and all the wailing and moaning starts again its going to be hell of a long bad year for everyone, so hopefully for once we are balanced about it*. Berrada and Ashworth need to get in asap, get the squad and other issues sorted and start getting the party started.

* who am I kidding. There will already be the crying and Ineos out the very first second we don't do something correctly in a game.
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I think it would be fair if we start badly for it to go downhill. You don't back a bad thing. He will need to prove to fans that he's good enough to have us playing good football. He doesn't deserve a grace period. As a club, we're at the point where we can't afford to waste seasons, so if it means sacking him in September/October if we have a bad start then thats what we need to do.
 
Ayush_reddevil said:
The funniest thing about everyone being relieved about it not being Southgate is that this decision imo makes it more likely that Southgate will manage United soon
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Especially if his updated contract has performance related termination clauses.

Can easily envision a scenario where our league form is dire, quality of football is poor and INEOS #1 Southgate is available come midseason.

The media lovefest and water carrying for him as a potential successor will be nauseating
 
Jeffthered said:
Hope. Ha, ha, ha... This is embarrassing, and very, very bad news. On a number of levels.

This is the man that paid £80m+ for Antony.

And he stays. Unreal. Unreal.
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No, wanted Antony, club dicked about (as usual) and ended up overpaying.

It’s been said so many times.

By all means criticise Ten Hag for what he controls but not his fault we were run by lobotomised muppets.
 
This is nuts.

I assume any new contract puts him as "Head Coach" or similar, rather than "Manager" ... (as any external hire would've been)... He must've aced his interview because his body of work as "Manager" is not compelling.

It will be a different dynamic next season, with the new structure. Nowhere to hide. I fear we'll be looking for a new Head Coach before long.
 
Hope the braindead players (who thought they got away again by getting another manager sacked) have their bags packed.
 
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