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What a strange comment.
De Gea is just an average keeper by any metric, with some exceptions of stats that he's the worse in the league like stopped crosses. He was a great shotstopper for a few seasons, now he's average or even below average in the league. We also need a keeper who is more than "competent" passing the ball.
Bollocks
If you are going to argue he should be sold because he's shite, it would help your arguement if you could point out attainable alternatives that are top level (or soon to be) players. Otherwise, imo, it's just more moaning
In the first comment you mentioned "what he has done during our lowest times" and I just don't see how this is relevant to what he is now (just an OK/average keeper).
I think @sullydnl clearly stated De Gea is "average" (what he is), not "shite". You can also reverse this discussion and may I ask why you think he's so good?
I thought that goes without saying but apparently not.
100% agree, but I don't think this is a reason to stick with De Gea any longer to be honest. We now have a senior/experienced/established back 4 (RB might be doubtful, but Varane Martinez Shaw and Casemiro in midfield is cemented for next season). There won't be a better time to replace a GK.
By "unfair criticism" do you mean letting Kompany score the goal that ultimately cost us the league title because he was incapable of leaving his line to deal with a ball properly 4 yards from his goal? And I'm also presuming by saying "bounced back winning a PL medal" that you mean "got dropped twice during the season and was part of the worst title winning defensive record since the year 2000"? De Gea has had a couple of really outstanding seasons for the club, 12/13 was not one of them and it's ok to admit that without having to make out that he was responsible for us winning the league.
It was the only goal in the biggest game of the season. We won our final two games, had we gone away with the draw that night we'd have won the league.
Do you mean the Kompany header in which he made Smalling his bitch? Yeah that's a perfect example of unfair criticism, we got destroyed in that game, a world class CB scores a bullet header outjumping an average CB like Smalling, you go and blame DDG. And yeah DDG was part of that winning PL team which incorporated an average midfield of Tom fecking Cleverley, Giggs and Anderson among others. He was also unfairly criticized compared to someone like Joe Hart who was a media darling and a clown, but what can you expect from outside people, when even United fans seem to have no memory and perspective of their own great players.
He was actually okey yesterday, Leeds should have scored a couple of goals actually, but we usually don't talk at length about those situation since it's not DDG making them.
Use your hand or body when you can. Not saying using feet is bad but you just can't entirely depend on that.
We had 5 goal attempts to their 15? Why the feck are you blaming DDG for that loss? As I said this is a perfect example of someone overlooking bigger issues and blaming DDG. Astonishing.
Yeah DDG lost the title that year definitely.
De Gea is placed 14-17th on all stats related to distribution this season compared to EPL goalkeepers.
Not true anymore
So blame him for costing us a title yet someone can't say he was responsible for winning one? Both are equally stupid.
It was, and most importantly it was coming one way or another. Remember I went on a trip later that night, devastated, because they outplayed us in a way we made a habit afterwards and in recent post Fergie times.
It's sad I have to say this to avoid critiques being branded vitriolic or an agenda; De Gea is a club legend and up to the 2017-18 season was one of, if not the best shot-stoppers I've ever seen. Unfortunately he hasn't been that guy for a long time now and is now merely an average shot-stopper and his other weaknesses (which I think we all agree on): command of area, sweeping and distribution are holding us back.
If you look at the 2017-18 season, De Gea conceded 12.5 goals less than post-shot xG (38.5) would indicate. Put another way he conceded 32.5% fewer goals than the average goalkeeper! This was truly elite performance, and what his reputation was built on. In every one of the seasons from 2012-13 to 2017-18, he either matched or outperformed the theoretical average goalkeeper by this metric.
- Rashford's header yesterday had an xG of 0.21 (a good chance but not a tap-in, headers are scored with much less frequency than shots taken with a foot), but 0.71 post-shot xG (how likely a shot is to be a goal, therefore this would be considered very difficult to save). This matches up to what you'd expect, it was a very well placed header.
- Leeds total xG was 1.81 (our eyes tell us they created enough chances to score one or two goals), but their post-shot xG was 0.56 (wayward and weak finishing). This again matches the eye test. He made saves yesterday you'd expect an average keeper to make around half the time.
- Leeds had better chances than us (1.81 vs 1.12 xG) but we were much more clinical (0.56 vs 1.97 post-shot xG), which again matches the eye test
From 2018-19 to the present day, he has conceded 13.4 more goals than the average goalkeeper would have and is merely mid-pack amongst his Premier League peers. In every season, bar last season where he outperformed by 1.1 goal, he has underperformed the average goalkeeper. Below is how he ranks on percentage of goals saved in the league vs other keepers in the top five leagues over the last five combined seasons.
Every top keeper by reputation is at least positive, and all the weaker ones are down at the bottom. De Gea is in the third quartile, he is (now) an average shot-stopper and there is no debate that every other facet of his game is below average at best. Improving on De Gea is a piece of cake.
He didn't even make Smalling his bitch either. It was a perfect cross and bullet header. Smalling is one of the best defensive headers you'll get and he couldn't reach it at full stretch
I was fuming. That could've been a 2-1 with still about 10 mins to play
Or it could be a howard to VDS type situation. There is a risk our next keeper might not work out but its the risk you take to try and improve.
We cant blame DDg for not winning that title. We blew an 8 point lead. We threw away a 4-2 lead at home to Everton. We went into that game with the mindset to draw and ended up losing.
