Have you a clip of this apology? I thought it was high 5s all around
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Man Utd v Sevilla (2-2) | Two late own goals turn first leg on its head! | Europa League Highlights - YouTube
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Although thinking about it that's not the one I remember from inside the ground, he put his hand up again afterwards.
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Does the save that Varane cleared off the line even count as a save? since without Varane that shot would have gone in.
It's a save, but how good is it when the ball was still in play and needed Varane to clear it off the line?
Another golden glove award coming? Most no of clean sheets ever!
Nick pope doesn't stand a chance against Eme Martinez, world cup winning keeper.
Nick pope doesn't stand a chance against Eme Martinez, world cup winning keeper.
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You guys are getting pretty tedious. Who is the replacement you'd like to see? How getable are they and how long are you willing to give them to settle?I pulled this graphic from another thread, but he really lacks variety in his passing range. Makes it too easy to press, his goal kicks either go short around the box or are humped long. Almost nothing in between the box and midfield, we can blame the midfielders, but let's be honest if he was capable of breaking the lines and putting the ball in there with the speed and accuracy required he'd be doing it more often.
https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/04/david-de-gea-man-utd-replacements-costa-raya/
Compared to Costa.
It just makes it way too easy to press.
You press high he goes short to the defender, there's a lack of options, it goes back to him, it goes long, and it's easy to pen them in. Because he can't play that breaking pass into midfield.
If you force him to go long, invariably the other team wins it, because the forwards don't really like challenging for the ball in the air. And he llikes playing those high floaty balls out that make it even easier for defenders to judge and win.
Having a keeper who is a better passer and can pick out those mid range passes into midfield, creates a versatility in terms of building out, teams then have to think about pressing high, because you can pick them off in between the lines. A better long ball player and you can pick them off with longer more direct passes.
The result is you are more likely to create superiority in the build up phase, which then creates space further up the pitch for the other players in midfield and forward areas to operate and maybe string more than 3 passes together.
Not up to me.
But I'd take any keeper who is a better, passer, sweeper, cross claimer and organiser.
Then, I'll give them 10-12 years to improve their shot stopping like everyone else has given DDG to improve everything else about his game.
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Wtf is that?
A joke, obviously.
Thought you had the answers mate!
Gave you one. Was it not good enough?
I'd be happy with any keeper who does all the basics of the position to a good standard.
Rather than one who's not as good at the one thing he was good at anymore.
I'd go for Diogo Costa, he's got everything this Utd side needs in a keeper to move forward.
If moneys an issue, I'd be willing to give Henderson a year at it or go for Raya on the cheap. I might even be tempted to see if Bayern would part with Neuer in the summer, it was only a broken leg and he's had a falling out with Kahn because they sacked his goalkeeping coach. Then focus on a long term replacement for him within the next year or two.
Ultimately there are others out there who might the bill within that time frame, the young Belgian Vandevoordt who's going to RB would be another on the list.
Yes, no, no and absolutely no.
Diogo Costa: matches what we see from Ederson and Allison
Henderson: may have the traits you like in sweeping and aerial presence, but not the best at them and much lower in the table for attributes
Raya: impressive season but something about him strikes me he will not stand up to the pressure week in week out. Hardest one to call but he doesn't do it for me.
Neuer: we signed VDS at 35 don't see him having the same longevity nor needing him for 1 or 2 years that De Gea could do.
As for Vandevoordt, no clue so may be the black sheep of the lot!
I'd take any of those options over keeping DDG.
Not a chance would I give him a new deal.
Shame you ain't at the top eh.
For me this is ridiculous. If you had said you would take them in as understudy with a view to taking DDG's place I would leave it but you're there talking about "get rid". Which if I'm being honest I never take seriously as it usually comes with some comments about "stealing a living" and "championship level" while lacking any common sense or foresight. It's not like we are talking about a player who is an absolute liability or is making trouble.
Out of all of those you mention who is getable for cheap (as we have other pressing issues) and will hit the ground running being an upgrade on what we have? This is not Football Manager 2023....
I still don't get this idea of someone coming to eventually take his place in a year or two. Why not just do it now, rip the band aid off? He's on 350k a week and his contract is up soon, it's the ideal time just to say thank you and goodbye.
Costa and Raya are better cross claimers, better sweepers, better passers, nearly every bit as good at keeping the ball out of the net. They offer so much more in terms of what a goalkeeper should offer.
Why the feck would you want any keeper to come in an be an understudy to a guy who has 1 redeeming attribute and has literally not improved any area of his game in 12 years?
What aspects of their game are they actually going to learn or improve from being around him?
Give it Hendo...
Unlike a succession of actual United managers have.
Sorry but that's utterly absurd. Though I'm sure there are stats to back it.
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They do, but you don't like them because they tell you what you refuse to see with your own eyes when it comes to Dave.
They do, but you don't like them because they tell you what you refuse to see with your own eyes when it comes to Dave.
Sorry, but the idea of giving it to Henderson as opposed to DDG is utterly ludicrous. But hey, make those stats sing!
I said if money was an issue, I would. But why only pick out Henderson out the options I suggested.
As usual, all you do is moan about stats and what other people say, but offer nothing in the way of any meaningful discourse.
Thanks for all your in-depth contributions to this thread, alternatives and other great insights.
You're welcome. I appreciate your input as well. Great value add.
I picked out Henderson because he was the most egregious and the best example of how one-eyed you are when it comes to DDG. I'm moaning about what you say because your agenda is enormously tiresome.
Henderson over DDG would be crazy, to be fair. I actually think Jack Butland is probably a better keeper than Henderson.
DDG doesn't offer much in terms of ball distribution. However he is probably the world's best shot stopper. United have a difficult decision to make. My suspicion is we will keep him for his shot stopping abilities but that would never progress us as a cohesive attacking unit as we will continue trying to play it our from the back which we aren't even great at without an injury crisis.
On the one hand we should have higher standards when it comes to getting the new keeper. On the other hand, the one season where they both played a decent amount for us Henderson was comfortably better. Both on the individual level (his critics like to make a big deal about the few mistakes he did make, but ignore that De Gea was making many more) and his impact on the team as a whole as our entire defence stepped up a gear.
De Gea has obviously improved since then, but I do wonder if we'd stuck with Henderson after that whether he would also have improved. You'd expect a relatively young inexperienced keeper to improve with constant game-time. Instead he sat on the bench for 12 months and stagnated.
Obviously we're now at the point where we should be looking for better than either.
Henderson seems like an arrogant bell end who thinks he’s much better than he is. So I wouldn’t have had great expectations about much improvement. The fact he can’t even get his game at Forest speaks volumes.
I believe he's only just started training again after his injury. From what I've seen on social media most Forest fans seem to want him back in the starting line-up ahead of Navas.
He can't get a game because he's been injured for nearly 3 months in fairness. I know he's not the most popular but it seems unreasonable to slate him for not being selected whilst injured.
He's been injured at Forest...
Agenda is just another term used by people who can't form a decent opinion by themselves.
I formed my opinion by myself thanks. It's clear from your posts that you have an agenda against him! Just own it.
Not an agenda.
It's also an opinion, that he just isn't all that good, never has been and he should be replaced.
Never has been? Ffs.
When you make statements like that is it any wonder no one takes anything else you say seriously even if you have a point
No agenda here then...!
No way fanboy. Just the truth.
.Ok, maybe time to have your warm milk and have an early bedtime fella. You have clearly had a long weekend.
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