[arnie_ni]

Highlights of his awful moments tonight please?

He definitely had about 5 awful long passes that didn't get off the ground

 

[Idxomer]

Highlights of his awful moments tonight please?

All the passes he gave away under no pressure and I may be harsh but I think he could've reacted better for the first goal.

 

[Gaidal]

He did.

Good, didnt hear anything on my broadcast. He needs to be in charge of his defence.

 

[Red Shorts]

He definitely had about 5 awful long passes that didn't get off the ground

So we will ignore the 1st half, where we were in control and his passing was actually very controlled, and skip to the last 20 minutes of chaos where the new subs gave no options, Sevilla pressed and covered well and each passback was a high pressure pass?

Yeah fair, really shite game and would have been 2-0 with another half decent goalie.

 

[Nero]

Agenda in overdrive.

 

[Red Shorts]

All the passes he gave away under no pressure and I may be harsh but I think he could've reacted better for the first goal.

A little harsh indeed. The 1st goal is lightning quick reactions, I feel is luck on any GK in that position to make.

He was putting himself into a place to cover the ball coming back into the middle, not a deflection from his player going at an awkward angle in a split second.

 

[Slevs]

Nothing he could do about the clowns in front of him tonight for the last 10-15 minutes.

 

[arnie_ni]

All the passes he gave away under no pressure and I may be harsh but I think he could've reacted better for the first goal.

No chance on the first goal. Just a clusterfeck by malacia

 

[Remember the geese]

So we will ignore the 1st half, where we were in control and his passing was actually very controlled

This isn't true.

 

[arnie_ni]

So we will ignore the 1st half, where we were in control and his passing was actually very controlled, and skip to the last 20 minutes of chaos where the new subs gave no options, Sevilla pressed and covered well and each passback was a high pressure pass?

Yeah fair, really shite game and would have been 2-0 with another half decent goalie.

It started towards the end of the first half after starting very well, as I've stated 3 times I think already.

 

[CoopersDream]

All the passes he gave away under no pressure and I may be harsh but I think he could've reacted better for the first goal.

There was no time to react on the first goal, it's basically an unexpected shot from Malacia from 3 yards out.

 

[Red Shorts]

This isn't true.

Don't know the passing stats for this game, but also don't recall seeing ridiculously bad mistakes playing to the outfield. Don't suppose you do to help in this debate?

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

I won’t blame him for the goals but I wish in games like this him & other experienced pros kind of get everyone together and get us playing . We were just static between the first & second goal

 

[Remember the geese]

Don't know the passing stats for this game, but also don't recall seeing ridiculously bad mistakes playing to the outfield. Don't suppose you do to help in this debate?

I don't have any gifs or stats of his passing tonight but I do know that he seriously pissed me off in the first half as well as the second.

 

[fergiewherearethou]

I won’t blame him for the goals but I wish in games like this him & other experienced pros kind of get everyone together and get us playing . We were just static between the first & second goal

That's one of our main problems, whenever we concede we are terrible for quite a while afterwards.
We just don't have the winning mentality or charisma to get over that.

Also, were were a man down after the first goal.

 

[11101]

Malacia fecked up but why wasn't De Gea telling him there was a man there. He's always so passive.

 

[sullydnl]

Malacia fecked up but why wasn't De Gea telling him there was a man there. He's always so passive.

He did.

 

[arnie_ni]

Malacia fecked up but why wasn't De Gea telling him there was a man there. He's always so passive.

He did,.so did elanga

 

[Oranges038]

So we will ignore the 1st half, where we were in control and his passing was actually very controlled, and skip to the last 20 minutes of chaos where the new subs gave no options, Sevilla pressed and covered well and each passback was a high pressure pass?

Yeah fair, really shite game and would have been 2-0 with another half decent goalie.

Last 5 mins of the first half lost all control because of his shite passing. It really affected the flow of the game going into half. Should have been able to suck the life out of them and see it out, instead it gave them the impetus to come out in the second half and press a bit harder.

After that it was a mess Second half was a shambles from start to finish from everyone, subs and inury to Martinez didn't help. Nothing he could do about either goal really.

 

[arthurka]

Thought his positioning for the first goal was a bit questionable but who can blame him for that? Freak goal with a player absolutely turning his brain off. That said the team did nothing to close down the pass from left to right with our players just ball watching.

 

[CoopersDream]

Last 5 mins of the first half lost all control because of his shite passing. It really affected the flow of the game going into half. Should have been able to suck the life out of them and see it out, instead it gave them the impetus to come out in the second half and press a bit harder.

I mean, the entire team couldn't hold on to the ball at all past minute ~40, it wasn't just because of De Gea. Sure, it didn't help, but it would likely have been exactly the same (as it was in the first 15 minutes of the second half when De Gea barely touched the ball and we couldn't string 3 passes together).

 

[Red Shorts]

Last 5 mins of the first half lost all control because of his shite passing. It really affected the flow of the game going into half. Should have been able to suck the life out of them and see it out, instead it gave them the impetus to come out in the second half and press a bit harder.

After that it was a mess Second half was a shambles from start to finish from everyone, subs and inury to Martinez didn't help. Nothing he could do about either goal really.

Fair enough on the last 5 minutes of 1st half, but to quote the OP I replied to, to say it was shite from him overall, when his play resulted in zero threat during that period is a bit extreme.

I know you as a poster are not a big fan, I have seen you say nothing but negativity about de Gea which is your own voice, but today was never on him.

 

[Name Changed]

Poor on the ball, brilliant shot stopper. Nothing new. A couple of very good saves. Not to blame for either goal.

 

[NinjaZombie]

I don't understand how a goalkeeper born after the backpass rule can be so poor on the ball. I mean, I'd understand if he was developed at the lower league club or something but guy was from Atletico Madrid and has been a United goalkeeper for a decade.

Brilliant shot stopper though. Have a feeling I'd be lamenting how our future goalkeeper don't make saves like De Gea does.

 

[Edwards6]

Why is he not letting Malacia know Navas is behind him?!

 

[arnie_ni]

He could of just cleared the ball instead of trying to let it go out for a goal kick, if he didn't know Navas is behind him you can also blame De Gea for not letting him know

He did

 

[Oranges038]

I mean, the entire team couldn't hold on to the ball at all past minute ~40, it wasn't just because of De Gea. Sure, it didn't help, but it would likely have been exactly the same (as it was in the first 15 minutes of the second half when De Gea barely touched the ball and we couldn't string 3 passes together).

He literally kicked the ball to them everytime he got it for those 5 minutes and it just allowed proessure to build up. Which continued into the second half.

Fair enough on the last 5 minutes of 1st half, but to quote the OP I replied to, to say it was shite from him overall, when his play resulted in zero threat during that period is a bit extreme.

I know you as a poster are not a big fan, I have seen you say nothing but negativity about de Gea which is your own voice, but today was never on him.

I'm not, and a huge reason for it is his passing and distribution is so bad. Inaccurate long range and plays people into trouble at the back.

Not saying it was his fault, he was good for 40 about mins, then he just hit 3 or 4 bad passes, played a few people into trouble and it ended up being panic stations at the end of the first half. He ended up making a save from a corner because of that pressure.

He's an experienced keeper, he should be able to command and control his defence and calm shit down, take the sting out of it. Be an option for the ball and recycle posssesion. He doesn't help out at all, just creates more panic and hoofs it away if anyone is within 20 yards of him.

I'm not saying tonight is on him, just that he's the most experienced player out there and he just doesn't do anything to help sort shit out and get some control back over the ball, relieve a bit of pressure and take the sting out off the game.

 

[Chicharo]

I don't believe that people are now ready to accuse him of not helping Malatia who looked like a lost cause for the better part of the match
Actually, I do... seen this dozens of times on this forum

 

[Sylar]

His kicking started good but then deteriorated, sorta like against brentford.

But the goals aren't on him. No way. I'm sure he shouted but Malacia ignored him.
And if the Sevilla striker isn't shit hitting it off target against Maguire, ddg doesn't concede the second. Made a good save at 2-0 and 2-1. Shame

 

[CoopersDream]

He literally kicked the ball to them everytime he got it for those 5 minutes and it just allowed proessure to build up. Which continued into the second half.

He literally did that two times during that time (it was bad kicks, mind). We had also already lost control of the game before that because of being sloppy in possession out on the field.

 

[Oranges038]

He literally did that two times during that time (it was bad kicks, mind). We had also already lost control of the game before that because of being sloppy in possession out on the field.

Yeah, and when that happens.

You need to calm it down, slow it down, try and maintain possession. Pick your passes carefully, not lump hight floaty ones out to Antony or smash it down the middle to the opposition midfielder.

You don't just kick it straight back down the throats of the opposition so they can come straight back at you. You have to have the composure and ability to calm it down, keep the ball, move it round, make the opposition chsse you and take the sting out of the game.

Unfortunately with players like DDG, AWB in the back line, that just isn't ever going to be possible.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

His distribution is terrible, always hits multiple passes straight into an opposition player, often without being under pressure.

 

[CoopersDream]

Yeah, and when that happens.

You need to calm it down, slow it down, try and maintain possession. Pick your passes carefully, not lump hight floaty ones out to Antony or smash it down the middle to the opposition midfielder.

You don't just kick it straight back down the throats of the opposition so they can come straight back at you. You have to have the composure and ability to calm it down, keep the ball, move it round, make the opposition chsse you and take the sting out of the game.

Unfortunately with players like DDG, AWB in the back line, that just isn't ever going to be possible.

The issue was that the outfield players couldn't maintain possession. Doesn't matter what de Gea does if the other players can't string together three passes. I'd argue that it would be better for him to go long then (proper long that is, not the miskicks he did there) to not risk losing it by sloppy passing in our own half.

 

[Oranges038]

The issue was that the outfield players couldn't maintain possession. Doesn't matter what de Gea does if the other players can't string together three passes. I'd argue that it would be better for him to go long then (proper long that is, not the miskicks he did there) to not risk losing it by sloppy passing in our own half.

But going long he has what 3/10 accurate kicks, so that means 7 are more than likely coming back at you.

There was a graphic yesterday or the day before that showed his kick outs all either go just beside or inside the box or beyond the halfway
line. Almost nothing picked out in between.

Keeper is the first line of creating superiority on the ball in the first phase of play, if he can't pick out passes other than ones directly to his left or right and has to just hoof it straight down the middle in hope. Then that's a problem.

 

[Idxomer]

Yeah, and when that happens.

You need to calm it down, slow it down, try and maintain possession. Pick your passes carefully, not lump hight floaty ones out to Antony or smash it down the middle to the opposition midfielder.

You don't just kick it straight back down the throats of the opposition so they can come straight back at you. You have to have the composure and ability to calm it down, keep the ball, move it round, make the opposition chsse you and take the sting out of the game.

Unfortunately with players like DDG, AWB in the back line, that just isn't ever going to be possible.

He had one pass down to Eriksen in the middle which was downright criminal. He could've easily gone left or right but picked the worst option of our players he had. Zero composure whatsoever after 12 years at the club.

 

[sullydnl]

I don't understand how a goalkeeper born after the backpass rule can be so poor on the ball. I mean, I'd understand if he was developed at the lower league club or something but guy was from Atletico Madrid and has been a United goalkeeper for a decade.

Brilliant shot stopper though. Have a feeling I'd be lamenting how our future goalkeeper don't make saves like De Gea does.

I don't think he's that bad in a general sense. As in no worse than goalkeepers at some of the many sides who don't expect their goalkeeper to offer much on the ball and whose distribution isn't so heavily scrutinised as a result. It's just in the context of better footballing sides who require their goalkeeper to be capable of passing well under pressure that he's bad.

And that's partly explained by the fact that he has been a United goalkeeper for over a decade. He became first choice at an elite club before demands on goalkeepers in this regard were quite so high, and the game has passed him by somewhat in the the 12 or so years since. If a goalkeeper with the skillset he had then emerged now, they'd have a harder time making it that far in the first place.

 

[CloneMC16]

Another typical De Gea game.

 

[Sylar]

I don't think he's that bad in a general sense. As in no worse than goalkeepers at some of the many sides who don't expect their goalkeeper to offer much on the ball and whose distribution isn't so heavily scrutinised as a result. It's just in the context of better footballing sides who require their goalkeeper to be capable of passing well under pressure that he's bad.

And that's partly explained by the fact that he has been a United goalkeeper for over a decade. He became first choice at an elite club before demands on goalkeepers in this regard were quite so high, and the game has passed him by somewhat in the the 12 or so years since. If a goalkeeper with the skillset he had then emerged now, they'd have a harder time making it that far in the first place.

It's weird you say that because when he first joined his kicking was good. He was good with the ball at his feet. Heck he even did a cruyff turn in his own box to get away from an attacker.

He was even making saves with his feet which somehow or some reason pissed off pundits which was bizarre

 

[Red00012]

Why is he not letting Malacia know Navas is behind him?!

He did

 

[Lyng]

It's weird you say that because when he first joined his kicking was good. He was good with the ball at his feet. Heck he even did a cruyff turn in his own box to get away from an attacker.

He was even making saves with his feet which somehow or some reason pissed off pundits which was bizarre

So many years under the likes of Mou and Ole ruined him. He was very good with his feet when he first came.