[Pickle85]

Not an agenda.

It's also an opinion, that he just isn't all that good, never has been and he should be replaced.

Come on mate, I know ceding even an inch of ground here would probably hurt badly but this is just silly. If nothing else, his individual accolades should point to at least a season or two where he's been exceptional.

I personally think he was brilliant for at least 5 seasons, but hey

 

[Red Shorts]

Come on mate, I know ceding even an inch of ground here would probably hurt badly but this is just silly. If nothing else, his individual accolades should point to at least a season or two where he's been exceptional.

I personally think he was brilliant for at least 5 seasons, but hey

I wouldn't bother, honestly. Dave can end this Forest game with a clean sheet, 5 key saves and a 98% pass success rate, yet be criticized for the 2% missed and didn't pass into the 1st third of the pitch.

 

[Oranges038]

Come on mate, I know ceding even an inch of ground here would probably hurt badly but this is just silly. If nothing else, his individual accolades should point to at least a season or two where he's been exceptional.

I personally think he was brilliant for at least 5 seasons, but hey

That's your opinion and your are entitled to it.

I have mine, I've explained why he's not all that many times.

 

[Pickle85]

I wouldn't bother, honestly. Dave can end this Forest game with a clean sheet, 5 key saves and a 98% pass success rate, yet be criticized for the 2% missed and didn't pass into the 1st third of the pitch.

Crazy isn't it?! He's one of the best keepers united have had imo and yet people seem absolutely desperate to tear him down.

Are his best years behind him? Yup. Is he still a more than adequate keeper for a top four club? Also yup. I'm not saying there aren't better out there and am not minimizing the importance of building from the back but some folks seem to privilege the ball at feet stuff significantly more than the keeping the ball out of the net stuff

 

[arnie_ni]

That's your opinion and your are entitled to it.

I have mine, I've explained why he's not all that many times.

You might be correct now, that he isnt "all that" anymore, but that statement writing off his whole career is mental

 

[macheda14]

That's your opinion and your are entitled to it.

I have mine, I've explained why he's not all that many times.

Saying he 'never has been good' can't even be classified as an opinion. It's a delusion.

 

[Pickle85]

That's your opinion and your are entitled to it.

I have mine, I've explained why he's not all that many times.

You have. The words ad nauseum were practically invented for it.

 

[Oranges038]

You might be correct now, that he isnt "all that" anymore, but that statement writing off his whole career is mental

Saying he 'never has been good' can't even be classified as an opinion. It's a delusion.

You have. The words ad nauseum were practically invented for it.

Not writing off his career.

I've never considered him to be all that good, I've always considered him to be over rated.

 

[Gaidal]

Well, for everyone in here that likes to say that no one can do the saves De Gea does. You just saw a 36 year old do that, and he can also pass, sweep and despite being somewhat small for a keeper collect crosses.

For us Maguire even catches more crosses with his arms. Every corner against is just chaos and a huge chance since they can put it 1 feet away from the goal.

 

[bosnian_red]

He's somehow the golden glove leader what a weird season. Passed it around well today though, and dealt with the crosses well. Happy with that.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Well, for everyone in here that likes to say that no one can do the saves De Gea does. You just saw a 36 year old do that, and he can also pass, sweep and despite being somewhat small for a keeper collect crosses.

For us Maguire even catches more crosses with his arms. Every corner against is just chaos and a huge chance since they can put it 1 feet away from the goal.

...He came out for multiple crosses today?

 

[Alemar]

Good today. Accurate distribution, many good passes, catched a couple of crosses too. No saves is not his fault when there were no shots on target

 

[Nero]

Another solid performance and clean sheet. Rise above hate.

 

[Idxomer]

He was fine despite being bad on basically every corner.

 

[Lay]

Teams target his inability to come off his line even more now but he did what he had to do today

 

[Mr Pigeon]

...He came out for multiple crosses today?

Yeah but the rest of the post has some fair points?

I love Dave, but I still shit it whenever the ball is passed back to him. I think he does as well.

 

[Lemoor]

You just saw a 36 year old do that, and he can also pass, sweep and despite being somewhat small for a keeper collect crosses.

Navas really isn't better at sweeping than de Gea and while better at collecting crosses, he's still way below average. He would be a sidegrade at the absolute best, downgrade at worst.

 

[MadDogg]

Actually passed the ball very well in the first half. Wasn't under much pressure of course, but still he was finding his man and even played a couple of good balls through the centre of the pitch that got us straight on the front foot. Second half was more back to normal though, just smacking it into random areas which often gave it back to the opposition.

Was shaky when dealing with some of the corners and set pieces, making half-hearted attempts to come out to claim them but not getting there. They were absolutely packing the box though and blocking him off, but that's basically the go-to thing to do against us.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

.Every corner against is just chaos and a huge chance since they can put it 1 feet away from the goal.

Yep. A quick glance and people miss this.

EVERY, SINGLE, TEAM in the league pummel us with aerial assaults from set pieces by dropping balls right onto De Gea’s head as they know he won’t deal with it.

It always ends up in panicky situations where we get lucky to survive.

Other than that he was OK with his kicking today. A great pass to Sancho in the second half.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Yeah but the rest of the post has some fair points?

I love Dave, but I still shit it whenever the ball is passed back to him. I think he does as well.

I don't, his passing today was really good. And his first touch is pretty much always good - even if the pass that follow's it is sometimes rubbish.

The thing I like about De Gea is, when its time to pass he passes, when its time to get rid, he gets rid.

 

[Cutch]

Teams are totally targeting his lack of presence defending corners. Inswingers on top of him every game. If we don't get a defending head on it they're likely scoring as rarely does De Gea get a fist on anything.

Better today with his feet though.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

I don't, his passing today was really good.

The thing I like about De Gea is, when its time to pass he passes, when its time to get rid, he gets rid.

I can think a couple of occasions today where he's either passed it off the pitch or into a dangerous area that almost resulted in an oppo chance. I'm not saying he's dire at it but it's definitely a weakness for me, especially with how Ten Hag wants us to play out from the back.

He's not as crap at it as was he was before so maybe there's room for more improvement? But I'm not sure how you can be ok with it, unless "he gets rid" is code for "he punts it" which just means there's a high chance the oppo can regain possession (?)

 

[caid]

He's reacted well to a couple of bad games a few weeks back. It kind of feels like he can do a lot of the stuff hes weak at when he's focused and has a point to prove, was pretty good at clearing crosses today. Maybe we just need someone to constantly nag him about it. Think we're overdue to look at upgrading but doesn't feel like a massive priority today at least

 

[Malone_Post]

Teams are actively targeting him on multiple fronts and being pretty blatant about it too. You had Newcastle targeting him with the ball at his feet the other week & today Forrest targeting him at every corner. Opponents clearly see him as a weakness in the team. But you’ll still have people saying that he’s not an issue and no one could do a better job.

The De Gea fans must have been baffled today seeing Navas pulling off saves that ‘only De Gea could make’.

 

[charlenefan]

I don't, his passing today was really good. And his first touch is pretty much always good - even if the pass that follow's it is sometimes rubbish.

The thing I like about De Gea is, when its time to pass he passes, when its time to get rid, he gets rid.

Had Sancho had a bit more about him De Gea dropped another beauty over the oppo defence like he did against Everton today

 

[Longshanks]

Easy to just swing corners under our crossbar and try and take advantage of the panic.

A certain goal blocked by A.W.B, a possible penalty shout we got away with and forest hitting the woodwork all caused because De Gea can not command his area, another day we concede and who knows.

He did in fairness come and make a good claim at one point and follow it up with an excellent quick throw but one swallow does not make a summer.

Distribution was good today, but his weakness under high balls will never go away and teams will always target it and it will always be a problem for us when he plays.

 

[Oranges038]

Well, for everyone in here that likes to say that no one can do the saves De Gea does. You just saw a 36 year old do that, and he can also pass, sweep and despite being somewhat small for a keeper collect crosses.

For us Maguire even catches more crosses with his arms. Every corner against is just chaos and a huge chance since they can put it 1 feet away from the goal.

It's really a shame that fax machine broke.

 

[Red Shorts]

He's somehow the golden glove leader what a weird season. Passed it around well today though, and dealt with the crosses well. Happy with that.

Sell him

 

[Pickle85]

Well, for everyone in here that likes to say that no one can do the saves De Gea does. You just saw a 36 year old do that, and he can also pass, sweep and despite being somewhat small for a keeper collect crosses.

For us Maguire even catches more crosses with his arms. Every corner against is just chaos and a huge chance since they can put it 1 feet away from the goal.

How does this sort of incoherent nonsense get a like ffs?! I'm still struggling to figure out what the poster is on about.

 

[Pickle85]

So, so weird to come into the goalkeeper thread after ANOTHER game that we've kept a clean sheet, and read the preponderance of negative comments. Get a life folks.

 

[owlo]

Well, for everyone in here that likes to say that no one can do the saves De Gea does. You just saw a 36 year old do that, and he can also pass, sweep and despite being somewhat small for a keeper collect crosses.

For us Maguire even catches more crosses with his arms. Every corner against is just chaos and a huge chance since they can put it 1 feet away from the goal.

Keylor Navas has always been an asolute beast though, and 36 isn't an outlandish age for a keeper.

Agree about DDG, but don't think it's fair to compare an also ran to a Real Madrid legend during one of their most successful periods.

 

[youngrell]

He’s definitely targeted at corners and the way he’s always played has brought that on, but there’s little he can do now to negate it. No keeper is finding his way out of that huge crowd of players to cleanly claim the ball regularly, it’s mayhem.

 

[Red Shorts]

So, so weird to come into the goalkeeper thread after ANOTHER game that we've kept a clean sheet, and read the preponderance of negative comments. Get a life folks.

If Oranges only has one post after the game, you know De Gea did alright

 

[Borys]

He’s definitely targeted at corners and the way he’s always played has brought that on, but there’s little he can do now to negate it. No keeper is finding his way out of that huge crowd of players to cleanly claim the ball regularly, it’s mayhem.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. They hit those corners so good you can just hope it doesn't fall for one of their players. TBH it seems pretty effective as they almost scored from it today and had a penalty shout. How do other keepers/defenders deal with it though?

 

[AlPistacho]

Love de Gea, but today he was a weak link with the corners.

 

[youngrell]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. They hit those corners so good you can just hope it doesn't fall for one of their players. TBH it seems pretty effective as they almost scored from it today and had a penalty shout. How do other keepers/defenders deal with it though?

Like I said, he’s brought it on himself but no idea how he could work his way out of it, he’s pretty much blocked in.

 

[Amar__]

Isn't it weird to some people who blindly defend him that every team tames prtty much identical corners against us?

He's somehow the golden glove leader what a weird season. Passed it around well today though, and dealt with the crosses well. Happy with that.

We still have probably the best CB duo in the league alongside Casemiro in front of them, and de Gea is still good keeper in general(despite his obvious flaws). And we are generally not that attacking team tbf, our number of goals says a lot.

 

[Borys]

Like I said, he’s brought it on himself but no idea how he could work his way out of it, he’s pretty much blocked in.

Right but what does Forest do against remaining 18 teams in the league? They don't hit those corner into the 6 yard box? Hard to imagine you can only do it so effectively when De Gea is in goal.

 

[Kag]

He’s a calamity from corners. They hit the post and missed an open net from two yards out and he was nowhere for either of them.

Last few months here hopefully.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

How does this sort of incoherent nonsense get a like ffs?! I'm still struggling to figure out what the poster is on about.

It was properly formatted. Believe me when I say that we've been having trouble with a lot of newbies writing like total shit recently.

I think they made their point quite well. Doesn't mean I agree with it though. Likes aren't a popularity contest.