Brilliant post. His weakness and incompetence in the air kills us.
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This is De Gea summed up. Amazing saves but kept putting ourselves under pressure with his reluctance of getting off his line.
He's any proactive keeper would've claim most of the corners. He's been clearly targeted by teams, close corners they now he's not going to claim them.
He's any proactive keeper would've claim most of the corners. He's been clearly targeted by teams, close corners they now he's not going to claim them.
Said it so many times but people will be surprised if we get a 'solid' keeper who does a lot of the basics right and prevents chances before having to make the saves.
If you think that ball is unclaimable you need to give your head a wobble
So we're looking for a ghost keeper who can run through people
This is what we'll get if we decide to stick with him for another season. A few decent saves that I'd expect any keeper to make, and absolutely no control of 6 yard box.
I don't blame him at this stage. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
I don't blame him at this stage. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
You can jump and use your hands. Pope claims that with his eyes closed.
So we're looking for a ghost keeper who can run through people
I think the point is that most teams don't find the six yard area absolutely loaded with opposition players because their keeper will claim anything that goes near them.
So we're looking for a ghost keeper who can run through people
De Gea is pretty uniquely bad at dealing with crosses for a Prem keeper.
So we're looking for a ghost keeper who can run through people
Yes....you make the 6 yard box yours and if someone stops him from getting the ball, it's most likely a foul
So we're looking for a ghost keeper who can run through people
I believe the point is, not many other teams would crowd the opposition goalkeeper as much as they do DDG. His weaknesses are obvious and puts a lot of stress on the defence. If he has the ability to collect more crosses, you'd see the defence act completely differently
Exactly this.
Honestly, it's a huge problem for us defending crosses. We need one or two defenders essentially marking the space that should be covered by Dave and this often leaves players open elsewhere.
I swear to God if we announce a new contract for De Gea this week…
I'm pretty sure the ones in the first half were just straight at him and bad misses. The big save in the second half was him rectifying his own chaotic command of the box.
Like some others have posted i'm not sure how he's getting MOTM over Varane and Martinez who were the only players that looked half decent for us.
Oppo players wouldn't be all over him if he wasn't a massive fanny. Any keeper with presence claims a ball early in the game and rarely will they then get hassles for the rest of the game to the extent Dave does. I'm sick of him now. He has never been a world class keeper.
As stated above, we are under serious pressure from our own goal kick as teams are pushing up on De Gea as they know he's not good with his feet.
A club legend but imo we need a GK more comfortable playing out from the back.
A club legend but imo we need a GK more comfortable playing out from the back.
Anyone that watches us week in and out should see he's a problem. He has no command of his box and his passing sends shivers up my spine. I dread to think that we will keep him on massive wages just to keep him about
Need a keeper who can command the box so badly
Just put balls in the six yard box and eventually you will get change out of us with De Gea in nets.
The early double save he was so lucky the both finishes were straight at him a top level GK shouldn't let little stand up balls into the six yard box be attacked like that he should be coming and claiming or punching it away. The incredible reflex save late on was a great save but it's a save he shouldn't really have to make it's just there to claim and he's so weak that he is forced into making a point blank reflex save.
His luck runs out eventually though hence the two goals conceded from from stoppable balls into the six yard box.
He is such a dead weight to us.
The early double save he was so lucky the both finishes were straight at him a top level GK shouldn't let little stand up balls into the six yard box be attacked like that he should be coming and claiming or punching it away. The incredible reflex save late on was a great save but it's a save he shouldn't really have to make it's just there to claim and he's so weak that he is forced into making a point blank reflex save.
His luck runs out eventually though hence the two goals conceded from from stoppable balls into the six yard box.
He is such a dead weight to us.
He's in the bottom 5 percentile in the league for crosses claimed.
Pope is in the top 20 percent.
I'm not sure what the argument is really.
Pope is in the top 20 percent.
I'm not sure what the argument is really.
Handing De Gea a new contract is a borderline sackable offence. He needs to be let go this summer. I don't care if we play Tom Heaton in goal all season next season. De Gea has not improved a single aspect of his game from when he was signed. He still has zero control of his box, makes the easiest situations look ten times harder than they should and is one of the worst goalkeepers on the ball in the league.
Extending De Gea's contract would be such a United thing , short term decision with long term consequences when would we ever learn .
If any of those goals are claimable you're thinking games go on in slow mo. Blaming this game on him is just.. borderline silly
It would require some class parkour
Ffs
He would have had to run through his own players though. That's not gonna be a foul.
Look he's not great at crosses but to come on here and blame Dave for that absolute shambles of a team performance is madness.
First off, his positioning is horrible on the corner to begin with. He is closer to front post than his is to back. He should be close to where that cross went as his starting position. It's easier to move forward than it is to back peddle. And yes, if he's there already or if he's going there and someone gets in his way, then it's a foul. The 6 yard box should be his. This has been his biggest problem since he first arrived here and he's never gotten better at it. In fact, he may have even gotten worse. As a keeper, you need to be a nutter and you need to strong. De Gea is none of those..
Again, though, the point is that our own players are only there in the first place because Dave does not command his area!
I'm sorry but you don't see most Premier League sides defending crosses like we do. Most of them don't have to load the six yard area because most of them can at least somewhat depend on their goalkeeper to deal with balls into there.
Dave isn't just "not great" at crosses, he's flat out awful at them and it fairly obviously impacts how we defend.
Just the six yard box would be a start.
I think a goalkeeper’s presence is so vital, especial when we have Martinez as a ‘weak’ spot when it comes to heading the ball from a height.
Same story as always. Makes some great saves but is partly to blame for the goals due to his cowardice. How fecking hard can it be to move off your line?! He's basically asking his defenders to do everything a modern GK should be doing himself: starting attacks, claiming crosses, leading the team. I'm sick of watching him flop around knowing he's our best paid player. Get rid.
Who did that? Who is blaming ddg for the team performance?
Go ahead and ask Newcastle fans how they felt about De Gea then. The fecking ground was celebrating like they scored a goal every time we had to pass back to him because they knew it was essentially winning possession already.
He's a fecking cowardly keeper and always has been
The very fact your on here criticising him when he was the least woeful player out there says it all. We're crap in possession because we have a number 10 and others who are not good in possession, not because our number 1 isn't Prosinecki reborn.
He didn't parkour over people and leap 15 feet in the air for either of their goals and he gets criticised rather than the absolute mess in front of him.
It's a ddg thread. Should he be immune to criticism in his thread because others are crap? That is the most ridiculous statement I've heard
The fact you have to overstate things to defend ddg just shows how inadequate he is.
So again, same question since you ignored it
Who has come on here and blamed our team performance on ddg? You made the statement so im asking you who has done it?
So we're looking for a ghost keeper who can run through people
You expect most keepers to claim that.
Deal with the cross, the rest of that chaos just doesn't happen.
I've been done with him for a long time now, there's just no defending that.
I will go as far as to say that I am better at dealing with crosses than De Gea is and I'm almost 49 years old
Get rid already, just not good enough.
We're Man United and we have to pass it back to our GK constantly under pressure. Thats the fecking issue.
I think blaming DDG for either of those goals is mental. We performed badly, but not David.
He was poor. They were peppering balls into our six yard box, safe in the knowledge that our keeper wasn't interested in dealing with them. Not surprising though as it's one of the issues in his game that he has never bothered to overcome. I think he's just a coward.
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Opposition managers see it, opposition fans see it. 2 Spain managers have seen it now.
Only sentimental Utd fans actually think he's a good enough keeper and worth keeping.
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