Borys
Statistics Wizard
Personally I think it's amazing that one can have such a bad game throughout, against such a poor opponent.
Zirkzee behind Hojlund worth a shot. He looked very tidy today. Good in tight places and invariably made the right passNeeds someone to challenge him for position, and it's not Mount.
Similar feelings here. Love Bruno, but today he was certifiably horribleHe’s been totally shite so far this season. I say this as someone who loves Bruno and hope he turns it around. When he plays well we do well.
I can see Ten Hag being puzzled around this puzzle, he created for himself.Zirkzee behind Hojlund worth a shot. He looked very tidy today. Good in tight places and invariably made the right pass
Honestly the referees standard of what a foul was at times proper confused me.He's got to be the most confusing player in the league. If the ball and play is in front of him, he's up there with the very best creators that have ever graced the prem. If he's receiving it in traffic, has to run with it or has to hold off a defender he looks worse than a pub player.
Thought he was pretty dreadful today, though it's worth noting Atwell decided shirt pulling was perfectly legit for Southampton in all challenges, which Bruno can't deal with (neither could Mainoo to be fair).
I honestly think Bruno is our biggest issue at the moment and if we are really serious about trying to move forward with a young team we should start to rotate him out of the first 11, he’s on the decline and it’s clear to see.
If De Ligt continues to play well I’d look at giving him the captaincy.
Nur sure that works with Amad and Rashford... Maybe when one is exchanged with Anthony.Hopefully we rotate him out more often this season. He's getting older and his performance levels really need the rest now. Not good today, but also we have lots of options and he obviously hurts us balance wise. Would be interested to see a 442 with what we have now to be honest, which obviously means he's rotating with Zirkzee as the deeper of the 2 CFs to play alongside Hojlund (or Rashford at that point).
But his peaks are fewer and far between, I think he’s on decline, if this is his physical peak then we should sell him.He’s not on the decline, he’s at his physical peak, he’s always been like this - from frustrating to amazing within 1 minute - that’s just the player he is.
Living off credit from his first 2.5 years here increasingly as his general floor has been shocking since the start of Ole's final seasonBruno has an awful lot of credit in bank to allow him a few off days. However, I have seen enough of Zirkzee to think that when Hojland is back, there are opportunities for Bruno to have some rest as towards the end of season he is gassed.
What's confusing about it? What you're describing is a limited player. Someone who excels at one specific type of play and often fails at the large multitude of basic skills a good footballer should possess.He's got to be the most confusing player in the league. If the ball and play is in front of him, he's up there with the very best creators that have ever graced the prem. If he's receiving it in traffic, has to run with it or has to hold off a defender he looks worse than a pub player.
Thought he was pretty dreadful today, though it's worth noting Atwell decided shirt pulling was perfectly legit for Southampton in all challenges, which Bruno can't deal with (neither could Mainoo to be fair).
Did your eye fail to see the assist for the first goal? Also that he's been the best chance creator in Europe since he joined us?
Imagine using "had more shots" as a way to showcase he's played well, when all his efforts were embarassing. I'm so tired of people using cherry picked stats to tell me Bruno is doing well, when the eye test reveals to anyone who's watched the game he's been awful
Oh dear. Any freekick/corner he takes adds up to the “chance created” nonsense. Watch the game ffs.Did your eye fail to see the assist for the first goal? Also that he's been the best chance creator in Europe since he joined us?
It doesn't though, does it? Unless the corner or free kick he takes...creates a chance?Oh dear. Any freekick/corner he takes adds up to the “chance created” nonsense. Watch the game ffs.
As I understand it, if we are enjoying decent possession and the team is passing it around, if Bruno spams a ball into the box anywhere near a player it’s a chance created. Even if it was a horrible waste of possession. I’ve watched games where we have been very poor, Bruno has given the ball away cheaply many times and still tops the chances created stat.It doesn't though, does it? Unless the corner or free kick he takes...creates a chance?
Surely you can't really believe it's as simple as 'players top chance creation lists because they take set pieces', right?
I agree and I feel our overall play is suffering due to him. So erraticJust goes to show that stats can be meaningless.
He was poor today
Nope. Chances CreatedAs I understand it, if we are enjoying decent possession and the team is passing it around, if Bruno spams a ball into the box anywhere near a player it’s a chance created. Even if it was a horrible waste of possession. I’ve watched games where we have been very poor, Bruno has given the ball away cheaply many times and still tops the chances created stat.
Only in Ten Hags head. We have plenty of other options and don't need to play him really, especially with how Amad is playing as wide playmaker now.Bruno has an awful lot of credit in bank to allow him a few off days. However, I have seen enough of Zirkzee to think that when Hojland is back, there are opportunities for Bruno to have some rest as towards the end of season he is gassed.