Tom Van Persie
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He's been incredible for us. Would be nice if he was appreciated more by fans and pundits.
It's so obvious to all onlookers that his performances are integral to how well we play. Our offence has ran largely through him since he joined.He's been incredible for us. Would be nice if he was appreciated more by fans and pundits.
I do not believe you watch footballIt's so obvious to all onlookers that his performances are integral to how well we play. Our offence has ran largely through him since he joined.
So when he, and by extension the team, play well, he'll get all the plaudits. Problem is, our football is shite. As our focal point, he takes the brunt of the criticism, fairly or not.
He's undoubtedly a terrific footballer, but let's not let this purple patch make us forget that he has been wildly inconsistent for at least 2 years.
Ideally, I'd like us to be far less reliant on a streaky talisman than we are. Bruno is the type of player that needs to be this talisman to be good. When he's just a cog in the system, he's far less useful - see his performaces for Portugal.
As much as I respect him, as as much as it hurts to say, I think he needs to move on for the team to grow. A lot of the criticism of him is saying this in a roundabout way. He's a great player, but not the right player.
It's so obvious to all onlookers that his performances are integral to how well we play. Our offence has ran largely through him since he joined.
So when he, and by extension the team, play well, he'll get all the plaudits. Problem is, our football is shite. As our focal point, he takes the brunt of the criticism, fairly or not.
He's undoubtedly a terrific footballer, but let's not let this purple patch make us forget that he has been wildly inconsistent for at least 2 years.
Ideally, I'd like us to be far less reliant on a streaky talisman than we are. Bruno is the type of player that needs to be this talisman to be good. When he's just a cog in the system, he's far less useful - see his performaces for Portugal.
As much as I respect him, as as much as it hurts to say, I think he needs to move on for the team to grow. A lot of the criticism of him is saying this in a roundabout way. He's a great player, but not the right player.
Such a boring throwaway comment. If you're going to bother to comment on the post, why not give reasons for disagreeing?I do not believe you watch football
The comments with Bruno is so polarized. He played one good game then it's all that "he can walk into any team for starter" and "Man Utd can't live without him" , then after a bad game he was just called "most overrated player in PL" and "have too many flaws in his games".
He played quite good in this game with Arsenal, but with Bruno can we become a title-challenging team ? I don't think so. I would say Bruno is the main reason we can't beat high-intensity pressing and can't play dominant football. The low-block counter-attack style suit him but I don't want to be too carried away for his heroic free-kick while not seeing the real issue.
The comments with Bruno is so polarized. He played one good game then it's all that "he can walk into any team for starter" and "Man Utd can't live without him" , then after a bad game he was just called "most overrated player in PL" and "have too many flaws in his games".
He played quite good in this game with Arsenal, but with Bruno can we become a title-challenging team ? I don't think so. I would say Bruno is the main reason we can't beat high-intensity pressing and can't play dominant football. The low-block counter-attack style suit him but I don't want to be too carried away for his heroic free-kick while not seeing the real issue.
The comments with Bruno is so polarized. He played one good game then it's all that "he can walk into any team for starter" and "Man Utd can't live without him" , then after a bad game he was just called "most overrated player in PL" and "have too many flaws in his games".
He played quite good in this game with Arsenal, but with Bruno can we become a title-challenging team ? I don't think so. I would say Bruno is the main reason we can't beat high-intensity pressing and can't play dominant football. The low-block counter-attack style suit him but I don't want to be too carried away for his heroic free-kick while not seeing the real issue.
I do love this thread.
Our best player by a mile, has been for several seasons now, our hardest working player, best player on the ball and our most creative....yet still people try and find ways to pick him apart.
He'd walk into any team in the premiership, yet some one here seems to think he should be dropped,baffling.
De Bruyne has fallen off a cliff and Foden is having a crap season, he probably gets into their side in this form.Not sure he’d get into the Arsenal or City teams, probably would for Liverpool and all the others.
De Bruyne has fallen off a cliff and Foden is having a crap season, he probably gets into their side in this form.
Might not get into Arsenal's team, but only because Arteta starts hyperventilating at the idea of playing fewer than seven CBs and DMs.
Nowadays we barely see any game without him, so we can't really tell. Meanwhile, just imagine if we replace Bruno with prime Modric, the football we could play .Surely then, the games we played without Bruno.. we would be playing dominating footballing, beating the press, scoring loads of goals... Oh wait.. that never happened.
So if we get rid of Bruno... do you think everyone else becomes WC and we win the PL?
One player wouldn't have this team playing any better in this system, maybe five or so players yes.Nowadays we barely see any game without him, so we can't really tell. Meanwhile, just imagine if we replace Bruno with prime Modric, the football we could play .
This of all things is making you reply? Waiting for the same BS point to make, that is boring this thread for years by now. NOBODY is wanting us to play with 10 men. OBVIOUSLY people who don't see Bruno as the most essential piece of Man United do not want to just take him out of the team and replace him with Lindelof. FFS.Surely then, the games we played without Bruno.. we would be playing dominating footballing, beating the press, scoring loads of goals... Oh wait.. that never happened.
So if we get rid of Bruno... do you think everyone else becomes WC and we win the PL?
Same shit as well. There have been no critical posts around here since last few matches for performances, that were alright to good but hardly more given how the games panned out. Yet still we have this BS posts acting as if they are the voice of reason that are sooo vital on here because if it wouldn't be for them, the mood would shift completely and Bruno wouldn't be safe in England anymore after 3 days.I do love this thread.
Our best player by a mile, has been for several seasons now, our hardest working player, best player on the ball and our most creative....yet still people try and find ways to pick him apart.
He'd walk into any team in the premiership, yet some one here seems to think he should be dropped,baffling.
Thanks for the update. I am sure Fernando is happy to read that.To everyone
I love Bruno Fernando and he is my favorite player and I have 2 jersey of him. One is a red jersey number 18 and then I have a new jersey of him last Thanksgiving 2024 and it’s a dark blue jersey!!!
I agree Bruno has been out standout player amongst mediocrity.I do love this thread.
Our best player by a mile, has been for several seasons now, our hardest working player, best player on the ball and our most creative....yet still people try and find ways to pick him apart.
He'd walk into any team in the premiership, yet some one here seems to think he should be dropped,baffling.
I have came to the same conclusion too. It will be easier to find a productive 10 than it will to find an 8 to progress play from deep.Not sure why people are so surprised by his performances in central midfield. His best display under Ten Hag - arguably his best in a United shirt from a controlled standpoint - came in that role. He has the work rate, passing range, and vision to thrive there, provided he has the right partner to complement his skill set.
Ideally, I'd like to see a Carrick-type player alongside him, allowing him to influence the final third more often rather than dropping too deep to receive the ball. But right now, he’s doing it all. The real question is whether Amorim sees him as a long-term solution in midfield or if this is just a short-term fix?
Ultimately, I think it depends on whether we can bring in a No. 10 who matches Bruno’s productivity. That, plus securing a top striker, will probably dictate his long-term position. That said, finding a productive No. 10 seems more feasible than landing a top-tier ball-playing No. 8, which feels increasingly rare in today’s game.
You think Bruno wouldnt play ahead of cleverly, kleberson, Veron, forlan etc. Bruno would have been a great second striker back in the day. He has both the workrate and the productivity. Over the past few weeks he is showing he can play in midfield too. Sir Alex would have loved Bruno. We have had a lot of players during our dominating periods that are nowhere near Bruno's level.I agree Bruno has been out standout player amongst mediocrity.
Redknap, I know, said something though which I want to pose here.
Would Bruno make the Utd bench in our heyday?
Finally we can go to a peaceful sleep. Thanks for solving this mystery for usI've been watching him quite closely for a couple of games and honestly he's really good. One of the standout performers in the squad
You think Bruno wouldnt play ahead of cleverly, kleberson, Veron, forlan etc. Bruno would have been a great second striker back in the day. He has both the workrate and the productivity. Over the past few weeks he is showing he can play in midfield too. Sir Alex would have loved Bruno. We have had a lot of players during our dominating periods that are nowhere near Bruno's level.
Fecking Darron Gibson put up 60 appearances for us.
Finally we can go to a peaceful sleep. Thanks for solving this mystery for us
I agree Bruno has been out standout player amongst mediocrity.
Redknap, I know, said something though which I want to pose here.
Would Bruno make the Utd bench in our heyday?
I agree Bruno has been out standout player amongst mediocrity.
Redknap, I know, said something though which I want to pose here.
Would Bruno make the Utd bench in our heyday?
Bench yes. TBF he said Bruno is the only one who would make the squad.I agree Bruno has been out standout player amongst mediocrity.
Redknap, I know, said something though which I want to pose here.
Would Bruno make the Utd bench in our heyday?
Are you ok? You seem very emotional.This of all things is making you reply? Waiting for the same BS point to make, that is boring this thread for years by now. NOBODY is wanting us to play with 10 men. OBVIOUSLY people who don't see Bruno as the most essential piece of Man United do not want to just take him out of the team and replace him with Lindelof. FFS.
Same shit as well. There have been no critical posts around here since last few matches for performances, that were alright to good but hardly more given how the games panned out. Yet still we have this BS posts acting as if they are the voice of reason that are sooo vital on here because if it wouldn't be for them, the mood would shift completely and Bruno wouldn't be safe in England anymore after 3 days.
Thanks for the update. I am sure Fernando is happy to read that.
You know what’s boring? Talking in circles about how getting rid of our best player will somehow make us better.Such a boring throwaway comment. If you're going to bother to comment on the post, why not give reasons for disagreeing?
This of all things is making you reply? Waiting for the same BS point to make, that is boring this thread for years by now. NOBODY is wanting us to play with 10 men. OBVIOUSLY people who don't see Bruno as the most essential piece of Man United do not want to just take him out of the team and replace him with Lindelof. FFS.
personally I think he’d have excelled under Klopp