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Do you think there will be a Deal or No Deal?


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Just drive a stake through her and be done with it

Can already tell this is going to be about painting Labour as blockers
 
Just drive a stake through her and be done with it

Can already tell this is going to be about painting Labour as blockers
TBF its valid - problem is either just under or just over half of the country actually want it blocked... going to have to be a GE basically fought as a second referendum at this rate I think... a Brexit party / conservative alliance with Farrage Mogg and Johnson running the show... May might actually look competent in comparison?
 
Can someone please point out to her the reason she's going back now is she didn't ask the house in the first place and she still isn't
 
Can someone please point out to her the reason she's going back now is she didn't ask the house in the first place and she still isn't

What's happening today should have taken place before they triggered A50.

I can't actually believe what is going on in parliament. Every day becomes more farcical.
 
Well all the Commonwealth countries were supposed to be falling over each other desperate to have deals with the UK.

The Tories still think it's the 19th century but the world is watching very closely at their behaviour. They're going to be in for a nasty surprise.
Not only are they leaving an important trading bloc but are proving they cannot be trusted and also will not have any trade deals in hand.

I wonder who will have the upper hand in any negotiations. Bit of a turn around from the Empire.

Yes, no Gun-boats to send this time, only aircraft carriers... with no aircraft!
 
I wish the opposition would just abandon pleasantries and jeer the PM to actually answer the fecking question
 
Brexit is the perfect example of "everything that can go wrong, will go wrong". Except in this case, it's going wrong because the leader's of your country are a bunch of idiotic, self-serving twats.

At this stage there's a small part of me that wants to see the UK crash out with no deal and watch the madness unfold, because they've earned it, but unfortunately there's a bigger part of me that doesn't because I don't want to see my country do the same.
 
Is May suggesting she didn't know the backstop was of importance or that she previously failed in her negotiations to get something that was achievable?
 
True that. Cameron and the conservatives probably should have done it before the referendum really.

It would never have crossed their minds before the referendum because none of our politicians, including those advocating Leave, ever believed for one minute there would be a Leave majority. That's why virtually all MP's voted for the referendum to be put to the people in the first place and didn't bother specifying percentage outcomes to carry the day. When you think how Labour only added Corbyn's name to the list for their leadership race because they wanted to make up the numbers and be seen to be 'fair'; when the leadership of the Liberal Democrats were so eager to join a Tory government, to 'assist the country' and then promptly sold their souls over tuition fees; then on reflection you realise how incompetent our political class has become, add to that the scandal of MP's expenses and you begin to see why there is a large majority of MPs wanting to remain in the EU, and can shelter behind any laws made in the EU that the general public doesn't like.

If the UK ever were to leave the EU, and even now I doubt it will ever happen, the only protection for the people against further calamitous politics, is for the country at last to adopt a written constitution.
 
Shambles of a debate.

May wants another two weeks, she'll feck up again, and then we're back to her blackmailing....pick her deal or no deal.

Tory MP cnuts are shouting down JC all through his speech because he's shutting them down
 
The David Moyes of Prime Ministers.
David Cameron would have struggled with this government

Jeremy Corbyn is the level my cabinet aspire to be

I don't know what we have to do to win

We are going to make it as difficult for the EU as we possibly can
 
See Corbyn still has not understood. Two hopeless leaders of both parties.
Awful isn't it? Who are you supposed to vote for? I won't vote Tory but I've got no faith in Corbyn as a leader either.

Green Party it is.
 
You've changed since you became a movie star.
 
David Cameron would have struggled with this government

Jeremy Corbyn is the level my cabinet aspire to be

I don't know what we have to do to win

We are going to make it as difficult for the EU as we possibly can

They've succeeded there.

Brexit means Brexit also draws parallels with my captain shall always play. I.e. doing something counter productive because out of stubbornness or fear.
 
Awful isn't it? Who are you supposed to vote for? I won't vote Tory but I've got no faith in Corbyn as a leader either.

Green Party it is.

I feel you. In french elections I voted blank, I couldn't bring myself to support anyone.
 
I have a lot of respect for some of the senior parliamentarians across the house. In the absence of vying for position or power they speak their mind and often in the correct manner.

Unfair that they get lumped in with the other useless idiots
 
That you cannot rule out no deal unless there is a deal and secondly that he cannot have a different customs union and have access to the Single market unless he complies by the rules of those. But we went through this in 2016.

Based on what they are saying today, I'm fairly sure that we are in 2016.
 
That you cannot rule out no deal unless there is a deal and secondly that he cannot have a different customs union and have access to the Single market unless he complies by the rules of those. But we went through this in 2016.

He explicitly said rule out no deal in March, that doesn't require a deal it requires only an agreed way forward with the EU.

The language they use isn't helpful but they're two very seperate matters
 
He explicitly said rule out no deal in March, that doesn't require a deal it requires only an agreed way forward with the EU.

The language they use isn't helpful but they're two very seperate matters

That requires the EU allowing an extension which is not in parliament's hands and in three months time, even if the extension were granted, there still has to be a deal at the end of the three months.
 
He explicitly said rule out no deal in March, that doesn't require a deal it requires only an agreed way forward with the EU.

The language they use isn't helpful but they're two very seperate matters
It can’t be done (extension not revoking) unilaterally so it will require some sort of deal or compromise with the EU (why would they allow the extension without getting something in return (2nd ref)).
 


Corbyn knows May has a visceral hatred of him that goes well beyond party politics. There is absolutely no chance of May negotiating with Corbyn lead Labour, with a different Tory leader, maybe. He gets to look like the responsible adult in the room.
 
It can’t be done (extension not revoking) unilaterally so it will require some sort of deal or compromise with the EU (why would they allow the extension without getting something in return (2nd ref)).

That's why i said an agreed way forward. It's about starting that conversation now so we know but i would suppose that they would want one for the same reason as us, a lack of preparations and that a deal is best.

I certainly wouldn't blame them for telling us no given Mays approach but I'm sure they'll do what's best for their industries, is that the certainty of no deal?